Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yes, that's what happened 👆The legends say that the other Mjolnir replica got shoved up h1's arse so deep, he needed to undergo the artificial anus operation.
And JBL and Carter became insanely jealous as they lost their chance with the perfect replacement for pineapples?
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Who cares what you admit? You just proved you are as sexist as the Superman writers. She is FAR more skilled, quicker, armed and magical in nature. On paper, she has every reason to be that illegal immigrant's owner, but sexism wouldn't allow it.
😆 ****ing eh. This and other shit BAV has done? SJW retard confirmed.
It's still hilarious this went on for 141 pages. When Superman gets pissed and fed up with Wonder Woman we've seen him just plain speed over and b*tchslap her across the room. When he fought her while mind controlled she only survived due to PIS. He also all around has better feats, including speed feats.
Feats like holding back the weight of the moon or moving the Earth with the help of only a single GL.
Superman is just plain better than Wonder Woman. Period. It's not a knock on women no more than WW being stronger than a lot of male characters is a knock on men. He's f*cking Superman, deal with it.
Originally posted by carthage
Isn't Superman generally seen as being her superior in all but stuff like wrestling?
She's more skilled, but it never shows to make a difference in their fights without extenuating circumstances.
Originally posted by Surtur
It's still hilarious this went on for 141 pages. When Superman gets pissed and fed up with Wonder Woman we've seen him just plain speed over and b*tchslap her across the room. When he fought her while mind controlled she only survived due to PIS. He also all around has better feats, including speed feats.Feats like holding back the weight of the moon or moving the Earth with the help of only a single GL.
Superman is just plain better than Wonder Woman. Period. It's not a knock on women no more than WW being stronger than a lot of male characters is a knock on men. He's f*cking Superman, deal with it.
You have to cherry pick parts of FIGHTS(not certain fights, but PARTS OF THE THE FIGHTS) and omit context to make the argument that she's near him. He's overpowered her, out-performed her from noticeably to hilariously against common opponents, ect. The only other thing they really have is that statement under McDuffy which has multiple examples before and after that contradict it, even if we ignore she referred to her "trained reflexes" and said his actual speed("raw speed"😉 is faster.
Obviously the McDuffie stuff makes no sense in the broader context of super speed. We've seen Flash and Superman have whole conversations in nanoseconds. So even if Superman needs to think, while Wonder Woman has muscle memory, the difference in speed would be negligible. Unless of course Wonder Woman's speed was so close to Superman's, and they were fighting at true super speed, so then the muscle memory advantage, though small in absolute terms, might still provide an advantage.
At any rate, few things about super speed are consistent or make sense. At least one writer followed McDuffie's lead on this, but on the whole I don't think there is any strong, recent consensus that Wonder Woman is faster in any way.
She is more skilled, and sometimes it affects fights. Sometimes it seems less relevant.
It's always been one of those crazy things about comics that at human level, skill can matter so much. But it doesn't scale.
Wonder Woman, without powers, could maul like 10+ special forces guys in HtH like many street heroes could. Yet at full power, she wouldn't beat 10 guys with SF-level fighting skills and Wonder Woman-level stats. Imagine a Wonder Woman vs. 10 copies of Wonder Man thread. She'd get creamed.
Comics!
Yeah I'd assume the Solar Flare guy and N52 Doomsday should pretty easily clear this up.
I honestly think it depends on the writer though, even though in the end of the day Supeeman will always have the edge in physicals power, Wonder Woman's comes from magical gear and her skill reason why she contends with Supes under some writers.
Try this logic.
What percent of the time can a light speed beam be fired at WW where she manages to block it? More than 99% of the time? Sounds reasonable.
What about 2-4 beams fired at her? More than 70% of the time?
Well if Superman throws a punch at WW then what percent of the time would WW block or evade it? More than 80% of the time? If so then she can counter with a stunning blow after blocking or evading Superman's attack and then lasso him.
If anyone disagrees with any of the percent ranges I gave then please give percent ranges for the things I listed.