Originally posted by Rao Kal El
He should get warned for this sort of thing, imo.He is blatantly ignoring the rules of the forum fight, even after the MOD has said so.
Sorry my friend but you are trolling and ignoring the forum fight rules
That's your opinion, and you're welcome to it, but discussing bans and/or warnings is generally frowned upon by mods. So please, stop.
I see people in here treating these characters like powersets, not actual characters. That's pretty bad too, tbh, and i'd rather people didn't do that either.
Originally posted by -Pr-
That's your opinion, and you're welcome to it, but discussing bans and/or warnings is generally frowned upon by mods. So please, stop.I see people in here treating these characters like powersets, not actual characters. That's pretty bad too, tbh, and i'd rather people didn't do that either.
Originally posted by Surtur
I can't see why anyone who thinks WW will win would even want to cite the fight when Supes was controlled. Since that is an all or nothing type of think. You don't get to cherry pick feats, they all count. Which means Supes easily breaking her bones by squeezing is legit and counts.
He wasn't controlled. Every action Superman took, he took it under his own will. Max Lord made Superman see Doomsday ripping Lois apart. He then made Diana appear as Doomsday...after that, Superman actions were his own. Max didn't control his movements or hindered him from doing anything.
Originally posted by -Pr-
That's your opinion, and you're welcome to it, but discussing bans and/or warnings is generally frowned upon by mods. So please, stop.I see people in here treating these characters like powersets, not actual characters. That's pretty bad too, tbh, and i'd rather people didn't do that either.
This is an interesting point I wish was not something that happened in battle threads, Generally users ignore how characters fight and bring up their powersets moreso then anything else.
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
This is an interesting point I wish was not something that happened in battle threads, Generally users ignore how characters fight and bring up their powersets moreso then anything else.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It's somewhat of a problem, as we also have that Full Capacity rule... that allows people like Flash to blitz everyone in the first nanosecond of the match, for example.In theory, FC rule could allow Supes to stay out of Diana's reach and bombard her with HV.
Full capacity, even from the offset (as I saw it at least), was more about making sure people didn't fight like retards than making sure they fought at the absolute peak of what they're able.
Flash doesn't IMP everyone, but that doesn't mean he'll trip over twigs or get easily distracted either.
Originally posted by -Pr-
That's your opinion, and you're welcome to it, but discussing bans and/or warnings is generally frowned upon by mods. So please, stop.I see people in here treating these characters like powersets, not actual characters. That's pretty bad too, tbh, and i'd rather people didn't do that either.
I never said ban him. I just suggested a warning 😬
But I won't say anything else about it. You guys are the MODS 🙂
I'm asking what rule I am breaking. It's not like I'm using that fight to suggest Diana could beat Superman. I am using it as an indication of her durability and speed though. Don't see anything wrong with that. ABHI just brought up someone else with Superman power set dropping Diana. Don't see anyone jumping down his throat. You used a fight of a Doomsday like Superman beating down Wonder Woman as evidence of their fight (and here's the important part), he was controlled.
Originally posted by carver9
I'm asking what rule I am breaking. It's not like I'm using that fight to suggest Diana could beat Superman. I am using it as an indication of her durability and speed though. Don't see anything wrong with that. ABHI just brought up someone else with Superman power set dropping Diana. Don't see anyone jumping down his throat. You used a fight of a Doomsday like Superman beating down Wonder Woman as evidence of their fight (and here's the important part), he was controlled.
You say that, but then you say this:
Originally posted by carver9
He wasn't controlled. Every action Superman took, he took it under his own will. Max Lord made Superman see Doomsday ripping Lois apart. He then made Diana appear as Doomsday...after that, Superman actions were his own. Max didn't control his movements or hindered him from doing anything.
Kind of disingenuous, Carter.
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
I never said ban him. I just suggested a warning 😬But I won't say anything else about it. You guys are the MODS 🙂
That was why I had the "or" part.
You even used a mind controlled Diana losing to Superman as evidence. Here is the mind controlled Superman you used...
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Heroes/WonderWoman/WW175/story
Here is the list you keep posting in this thread... Diana was controlled in some and Superman was as well but you keep posting it as evidence of Superman being above Diana.
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
SUPERMAN/WONDER WOMAN POST CRISIS FIGHTS------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Encounter 1 (Mock fight)
Action Comics #600 May 1988
Context: Wonder Woman and Superman deceive Darkseid into thinking they are fighting for real
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Heroes/WonderWoman/MockFight/story
[b]Winner: NONE
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Encounter 2 & 3
KING OF THE WORLD ARC
ROUND 1
Action Comics #753 March/April 1999
Context: The JLA confronts a mad Superman (non 100% suncharged), Wonder Woman lassoes Superman's right arm and Superman tosses her like a rag doll, later on We see Superman confronting Wonder Woman again with the help of Batman and the rest of the JLA
Winner: SUPERMAN
ROUND 2
Superman Man of Tomorrow #13 March/April 1999
Context: A 100% suncharged and mad Sueperman battles the JLA and the Superman family. Wonder Woman can berely restrain Superman's right arm.
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/Superman%20VS--/Heroes/Wonder%20Woman/MOT%2013/story
Winner: SUPERMAN
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Encounter 4
A league of One November 2000
Context: Wonder Woman lures most members of the JLA into a trap and defeats them INDIVIDUALLY, When it comes to facing Superman she sneak attacks him, surprised by the attack Superman ask if this is some kind of test, then proceds to easily handle her. Then she acknowledges that she cannot beat Superman in combat.
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Heroes/WonderWoman/LeagueOfOne/story
Winner: SUPERMAN
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Encounter 5 (Mock fight)
Superman V.2 #165 December 2000
Context: Superman and Wonder Woman spar a little bit, when Superman focus he sends her flying away even though he lacked leverage
Winner: NONE
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Encounter 6
Wonder Woman V.2 #175 December 2001
Context: A brutish mind controlled faces Diana, Wonder Woman is able to pull the win not after suffering injuries and having a bloody face, Superman is pretty much in good shape at the end of the fight. While in the fight Wonder Woman acknowledges that two more blows like that will kill her and that Superman is too strong.
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Heroes/WonderWoman/WW175/story
Winner: WONDER WOMAN
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Encounter 7
JLA #77 March 2003
Context: Wonder Woman's & Firestorm's memories have been taken away by the Mnemon, they try to take Superman down, Superman defuses the Mnemon while scuffling with Wonder Woman and Firestorm at the same time
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Heroes/WonderWoman/JLA77/story
Winner: SUPERMAN
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Encounter 8
JLA #96 June 2004
Context: A mind controlled Superman fights Wonder Woman, Superman snaps briefly out of the mind control thanks to Superman not wanting to fight Diana and the help of Nudge, Diana knocks Superman briefly, which allows Diana to attack the Crucifier, A mind controlled Superman then knocks Wonder Woman which allows Crucifier to almost kill Wonder Woman. Superman was mind controlled and weakened by the Crucifier's magic.
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Heroes/WonderWoman/10thCircle/story
Winner: TIE
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Encounter 9
Superman v.2 #211 January 2005
Context: Superman fights what it seems a serious Wonder Woman, the demeanor on Superman's face is clear.
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Heroes/WonderWoman/ForTomorrow/story
Winner: SUPERMAN
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Encounter 10 & 11
SACRIFICE ARC
ROUND 1
Adventures of Superman #642 September 2005
Context: A mind controlled Superman scuffles with Wonder Woman, fight is too brief, Superman gets away
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Heroes/WonderWoman/Sacrifice1/story
Winner: TIE
ROUND 2
Wonder Woman V.2 #219 September 2005
Context: A mind controlled Superman having hallucinations of fighting Doomsday faces Wonder Woman and in under two minutes Superman almost manages to kill Wonder Woman, but it has the "brilliant tactical idea" of tossing Wonder Woman/Doomsday back to earth to make Wonder Woman/ Doomsday suffer. After Wonder Woman wakes up from being KO'ed she manages to pull out the win, not with out suffering injuries. Superman also suffers injuries, but in the end Wonder Woman pulls the win.
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Heroes/WonderWoman/Sacrifice2/story
Winner: WONDER WOMAN
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Encounter 12
Final Crisis #6 January 2009
Context: Superman KO's a mind controlled Wonder Woman with an attack that is not even directed at her.
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Heroes/WonderWoman/HeatVisionOneShot/story
Winner: SUPERMAN
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12 Canon encounters total
Canon encounters results
2 Victories for Wonder Woman (note: Superman under mind control)
2 Mock fights
2 Ties (note: Superman under mind control)
6 Victories for Superman (note: Wonder Woman under mind control in 1 fight and 1 fight with Superman 100% suncharged)
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Originally posted by -Pr-
You say that, but then you say this:Kind of disingenuous, Carter.
That was why I had the "or" part.
I'm correcting him. That was a Superman that wasn't clear headed, everyone knows this. His post made it seem as if Max Lord was telling Superman to punch, duck, jab, nay nay...
You get where I'm going with this.
Originally posted by abhilegend
😂She dodged his hits because he was fighting a Doomsday in his mind and was HVing clouds.
You have been corrected like a dozen times on this.
Superman oneshotted her by HV in Final Crisis. Heck, Khyranna with a portion of his power has oneshotted her.
It's not debatable in the least. Superman wins almost every fight here.
Also, ABHI posted this. Superman dropping a mind controlled Diana with heat vision. Wait, did you mentioned him needing a warning. I'm looking for the post. It has to be here somewhere.
And I clearly specified when Superman or Diana were mind controlled.
And bear in mind that this are canon fights, not forum fights and that is why I specify any extenuating circumstances involved in the fight.
You on the hand are ignoring the extenuating circumstances of a canon fight and then apply it to a forum fight.