Superman vs. Wonder Woman

Started by -Pr-155 pages

He was mentally compromised, which makes the fight unusable as an example for Superman.

You can use it for Diana if you like, but only someone that doesn't read WW should have to. She has other feats that show her capabilities just fine.

If people want to "pretend" they don't understand this, then there's no need for them to post.

No he wasn't. He was mad and fought pretty well. Not like some raging moron. He was using his abilities quite well.

Originally posted by JBL
No he wasn't. He was mad and fought pretty well. Not like some raging moron. He was using his abilities quite well.

He was mentally compromised. Both the comic and the writer said so. The fact that he was mad at all is part of the evidence of that.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Carter is right though.

Superman only saw Diana as DD.

There was no further mindcontrol.

Wut?

The only thing we can take from Sacrifice is
1. WW tanking HV as a durability feat, proving she can tank hv.
2. WW having strength necessary to hurt Superman.
3. WW being able to block Superman's hv.
4. WW being able to block and dodge Superman's punches.

Outside of that it can't be used to determine if WW can beat Superman based solely off the outcome of the fight since Supes was compromised.

Originally posted by -Pr-
He was mentally compromised. Both the comic and the writer said so. The fact that he was mad at all is part of the evidence of that.
I can see if he was drugged up or drunk, but thinking he's fighting DD is no cause for him to fight like a moron. He was in control at all times, he never snapped.

Originally posted by JBL
I can see if he was drugged up or drunk, but thinking he's fighting DD is no cause for him to fight like a moron. He was in control at all times, he never snapped.
So you dont see how fighting a crazed monster is different than fighting a trained warrior? Just admit you dont want to see the difference and move on or we can wait for Pr to tell you to phuck off because if i were him i would 😐

Originally posted by JBL
I can see if he was drugged up or drunk, but thinking he's fighting DD is no cause for him to fight like a moron. He was in control at all times, he never snapped.

He was out of his mind with grief and rage. Not to mention, he's already affected by Lord making him see things that aren't real. That alone brings it under the umbrella of him not acting as he normally would.

Him giving her a fight doesn't suddenly make him completely lucid and acting normally.

Originally posted by iceman24567
So you dont see how fighting a crazed monster is different than fighting a trained warrior? Just admit you dont want to see the difference and move on or we can wait for Pr to tell you to phuck off because if i were him i would 😐

Be nice.

Originally posted by iceman24567
So you dont see how fighting a crazed monster is different than fighting a trained warrior? Just admit you dont want to see the difference and move on or we can wait for Pr to tell you to phuck off because if i were him i would 😐
No one is talking about who he is fighting idiot. Superman was in control at all times in that battle. It could have been DD or a cat, he was in control and not fighting like a moron moron.

facepalm

Pr, why THE HELL you had to re-open it so soon.

Originally posted by JBL
No one is talking about who he is fighting idiot. Superman was in control at all times in that battle. It could have been DD or a cat, he was in control and not fighting like a moron moron.
He obviously wasnt in control since he thought he was fighting a completely different person than who he was actually fighting dumbass 😬

Originally posted by carver9
NOTHING was said on him dodging the lasso on Max command. The quote that was said during this scene "enough, time to get the lasso on him...use it, to clear his mind only for a moment. Free him from his delusions. What is Max making him see now. It's like he knows what I am about to do. Like he knows what the lasso can do".

Yes, hence the command to dodge her lasso. Doomsday doesn't has a lasso.

Where in that sentence does it say Max controlled made Superman move. She is ASKING what Max made him see for him to know to dodge the lasso.

Yes, because Max Lord isn't going to state what he is making Superman see.

That's called expository dialogue carter.

Lol...he was attacking her directly which is the reason he heat visioned her face.

Nothing could be farther from truth. He blasted through her skin and bones. He wasn't using HV as a concussive force, just a laser beam.

He grabbed her small wrist and broke it. Him punching her to Earth...him dodging kryptonite and punching it out of her hand. Lol...she was just too fast for him to hit and like usual, you are making excuses.

He didn't dodge kryptonite.

Yes, he was so slow he blitzed her and took her to the sun casually.

He blitzed her several times and you are talking she is too fast for him to hit?

😂

She withstood his heat vision.

No, she didn't. She poked his eyes so he stops burning her.

So you don't think she can Ko him?

Nope. Name one superman level being she has koed.

When did Bada rule out Sacrifice? Is that what Pr is talking about?

He ruled that Superman koed wonder woman in Final Crisis. Which you have always whined about.

Wasnt Wonder Woman KOed indirectly in Final Crisis 😆

Originally posted by JBL
No one is talking about who he is fighting idiot. Superman was in control at all times in that battle. It could have been DD or a cat, he was in control and not fighting like a moron moron.

Despite the character and the writer himself saying that Wonder Woman only survived due to Superman fighting out of his mind.

Yeah, right.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Wasnt Wonder Woman KOed indirectly in Final Crisis 😆

Yep.

Someone here always goes in a frenzy of swearing how it doesn't counts or something.

vin

Guys, cut out the name-calling.

He was mentally compromised/affected. That's not up for debate, and falls under the "not in his right mind" issue. I expect no further discussion on the issue.

Sure thing.

👆

Supermans mind was not altered in any way. For all he knew he was fighting DD who he has fought before, only this time he thought he killed someone he loved. Fighting angry and trying to kill someone is not fighting out of his mind. Show anywhere in that fight where superman went crazy or didn't calculate his attacks.

Originally posted by JBL
Supermans mind was not altered in any way. For all he knew he was fighting DD who he has fought before, only this time he thought he killed someone he loved. Fighting angry and trying to kill someone is not fighting out of his mind. Show anywhere in that fight where superman went crazy or didn't calculate his attacks.

His mind was altered by Max, making him see something other than WW. That alone disqualifies it.

Originally posted by -Pr-
His mind was altered by Max, making him see something bcother than WW. That alone disqualifies it.
True. But that's all Max did. After that, superman acted on his own and was in control of his actions.