Superman vs. Wonder Woman · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

Spire Senior Member

I would put Supes over Diana in combat speed and Thor over Supes in versatility.

Omega Vision Face Flowed Into Her Eyes

That's all fine and good but who wins the swimsuit competition?

The Nuul Senior Member

Originally posted by Omega Vision
That's all fine and good but who wins the swimsuit competition?

Shokosugi will say Superman.

Omega Vision Face Flowed Into Her Eyes

Originally posted by The Nuul
Shokosugi will say Superman.

Diana doesn't really even have to change out of her costume.

khazra Senior Member

Strength: Superman > Thor >> Diana (Supes- 4, Diana- 1, Thor- 3)

Durability: Superman = Thor > Diana (Supes- 4, Diana- 3, Thor- 4)

Flight Speed: Superman > Thor > Diana (Supes- 4, Diana- 2, Thor- 3)

Combat Speed: Superman >> Thor = diana(Supes- 4, Diana- 2, Thor- 2)

Energy Output: Thor > Superman > Diana (Supes- 2, Diana- 1, Thor- 3)

(the godwave is powerful yes but shes used it how many times??)

Versatility: Thor >> Superman > Diana (Supes- 2, Diana- 1, Thor- 4)
I took intelligence/prep into account here.

Had to go up to out of 4 because some characters are simply 2 stages higher in some catergories.

supes: 20
thor: 19
Diana: 11

around 16+ are elite toptiers/heralds for example:
Quasar is 1/4/4/2/4/4 = 19

He'd win 10/10 matchups against her though she might make him work for it sometimes. Diana is not a scrub, but shes simply not on that level either.

xJLxKing Senior Member

Originally posted by khazra
supes: 20
thor: 19
Diana: 11

no

khazra Senior Member

Originally posted by xJLxKing
no

yes

xJLxKing Senior Member

Originally posted by khazra
yes

You believe in terms of stats, Superman is nearly double as WW?

khazra Senior Member

Yeah. He far far outclasses her across the board.

He's far stronger, far faster, far more durable, far smarter * more versatile to boot.

Oh and i finally found the scan where supes states he was holing back on diana in sacrafice...
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/5610/04xw3.jpg

"i wanted him to suffer first, i would have made him suffer for eternity for what he'd done"

xJLxKing Senior Member

Originally posted by khazra
Yeah. He far far outclasses her across the board.
He's far stronger, far faster, far more durable, far smarter * more versatile to boot.
Oh and i finally found the scan where supes states he was holing back on diana in sacrafice...
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/5610/04xw3.jpg
"i wanted him to suffer first, i would have made him suffer for eternity for what he'd done"

First of all, why post that scan?Anyone who says Diana>Superman is clearly crazy, or being arrogant.

As for the stats, you are correct that Superman is stronger, faster, durable, smarter, and more versatile, but you forget she is also faster when it comes to reflex speed(stated), and being a better warrior. She knows more of War, and combat like that. Not to mention, you give her a 1 in strength while giving Superman a 4. That's clearly wrong. If anything, Superman and Thor should be around equal and Diana should be a 3(if they were a 4). If you gave her a 1 and Superman a 4, that means he is 4 times stronger then her. That's insane, her strength has been comparable to Superman and was stated to b close to his, not 75% less. You also gave her a 1 on energy output despite her having Godwave and you admitting that it's stronger, then you turn around and say she doesn't use it often. That doesn't change her power out such like Thor doesn't use Godblast ever time, or Superman using planet shattering attacks. That's stupid logic

Philosophía "The devil made me do it"

Strength:

Superman
Thor~Diana

Combat Speed:

Superman
Diana
Thor

Durability:

Superman
Thor~Diana (I'd give Thor the edge)

Versatility:

Thor
Superman
Diana

Raw power output:

Superman
Thor
Diana

The attack he used on Darkseid in Final Crisis surpasses everything Thor has ever done under his own power. On it's high-ends, HV has showings that virtually match anything Thor has done. And physicall output, there is no doubt that Superman is superior.

-Pr- Hey Yo!

Originally posted by Philosophía
Strength:
Superman
Thor~Diana
Combat Speed:
Superman
Diana
Thor
Durability:
Superman
Thor~Diana (I'd give Thor the edge)
Versatility:
Thor
Superman
Diana
Raw power output:
Superman
Thor
Diana
The attack he used on Darkseid in Final Crisis surpasses everything Thor has ever done under his own power. On it's high-ends, HV has showings that virtually match anything Thor has done. And physicall output, there is no doubt that Superman is superior.

love it.

xJLxKing Senior Member

Originally posted by Philosophía
Strength:
Superman
Thor~Diana
Combat Speed:
Superman
Diana
Thor
Durability:
Superman
Thor~Diana (I'd give Thor the edge)
Versatility:
Thor
Superman
Diana
Raw power output:
Superman
Thor
Diana
The attack he used on Darkseid in Final Crisis surpasses everything Thor has ever done under his own power. On it's high-ends, HV has showings that virtually match anything Thor has done. And physicall output, there is no doubt that Superman is superior.

You'd be surprised to see how many insane, over hyped, and old feats Thor has. It's ridiculous

I agree with it

khazra Senior Member

Not to mention, you give her a 1 in strength while giving Superman a 4. That's clearly wrong. If anything, Superman and Thor should be around equal and Diana should be a 3(if they were a 4). If you gave her a 1 and Superman a 4, that means he is 4 times stronger then her. That's insane, her strength has been comparable to Superman and was stated to b close to his, not 75% less.

no, or a 4 would be twice as strong as a 3. Its not a linear progression. thor's 3 is ballparking supes but still lower. Diana is significantly weaker than both.
Wonderwoman's strength is totally dwarfed by supes though. Itd say he's more than 4x as strong. When she pushes a ship 16x earths size or knocks around bizzaro (both hwilst depowered) than we'll talk 🙂

You also gave her a 1 on energy output despite her having Godwave and you admitting that it's stronger, then you turn around and say she doesn't use it often. That doesn't change her power out such like Thor doesn't use Godblast ever time.

Thor uses lightening and other energy attacks a fair amount. She's used the god wave twice i think...

As for the stats, you are correct that Superman is stronger, faster, durable, smarter, and more versatile, but you forget she is also faster when it comes to reflex speed(stated), and being a better warrior. She knows more of War, and combat like that.

She is not faster in combat speed than him. Thats been shown on panel multiple times.

Zeuodin Restricted

Originally posted by khazra
Yeah. He far far outclasses her across the board.
He's far stronger, far faster, far more durable, far smarter * more versatile to boot.
Oh and i finally found the scan where supes states he was holing back on diana in sacrafice...
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/5610/04xw3.jpg
"i wanted him to suffer first, i would have made him suffer for eternity for what he'd done"

It was Diana who came up with the plan to beat Mageddon. Let's not forget Diana also knows magic. She rarely uses them but she can and will if she has to. Superman is far faster in travel Speed yes. Combat speed no? I'd say they were about even with her being a little faster since you have to be faster than the on coming attack to block it. Durability is a misnomer since her shield is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>His Durability>>>>her durability.

xJLxKing Senior Member

no, or a 4 would be twice as strong as a 3. Its not a linear progression. thor's 3 is ballparking supes but still lower. Diana is significantly weaker than both. Wonderwoman's strength is totally dwarfed by supes though. Itd say he's more than 4x as strong. When she pushes a ship 16x earths size or knocks around bizzaro (both hwilst depowered) than we'll talk

So now you are claiming is stronger then Diana more then 4 times despite there being quite a few statement saying that she is either almost as strong, or being peers?

Thor uses lightening and other energy attacks a fair amount. She's used the god wave twice i think...

Godblast=/=lighting
Either way, the amount of times they used their strongest attack doesn't change the fact that they have that ability. You can't remove it and deduct point from her stats because she rarely uses it. That's stupid.

She is not faster in combat speed than him. Thats been shown on panel multiple times.

I never said combat speed, I said reflexes speed. That's been stated in JLA 28(I think)

khazra Senior Member

So now you are claiming is stronger then Diana more then 4 times despite there being quite a few statement saying that she is either almost as strong, or being peers?

Feats far outwigh statements.

Either way, the amount of times they used their strongest attack doesn't change the fact that they have that ability. You can't remove it and deduct point from her stats because she rarely uses it. That's stupid.

Ofcourse i can if i feel its relevant. In a standard fight her enery output is nothing. Or is everyone else rating thor's strength as his WM levels???

I never said combat speed, I said reflexes speed. That's been stated in JLA 28(I think)

Combat speed is how fast you attack & react to attacks. He has both on her. Again feats far outweigh statements.

Zeuodin Restricted

Originally posted by khazra
Feats far outwigh statements.
Ofcourse i can if i feel its relevant. In a standard fight her enery output is nothing. Or is everyone else rating thor's strength as his WM levels???
Combat speed is how fast you attack & react to attacks. He has both on her. Again feats far outweigh statements.

Her fastest Combat feat is faster than his fastest attacking feat. By Far. his strongest lifting feats involve the help of someone else. One with her. One with Captain Marvel. They are all peers. While it's clear Superman is the strongest, not by much. If he were 4 times as strong as she as you claim, he would have turn her body into crushed bones with one punch even by accident.

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by Philosophía
Strength:
Superman
Thor~Diana
Combat Speed:
Superman
Diana
Thor
Durability:
Superman
Thor~Diana (I'd give Thor the edge)
Versatility:
Thor
Superman
Diana
Raw power output:
Superman
Thor
Diana
The attack he used on Darkseid in Final Crisis surpasses everything Thor has ever done under his own power. On it's high-ends, HV has showings that virtually match anything Thor has done. And physicall output, there is no doubt that Superman is superior.

😎

khazra Senior Member

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Her fastest Combat feat is faster than his fastest attacking feat. By Far. his strongest lifting feats involve the help of someone else. One with her. One with Captain Marvel. They are all peers. While it's clear Superman is the strongest, not by much. If he were 4 times as strong as she as you claim, he would have turn her body into crushed bones with one punch even by accident.

In matches between just them he's shown himself to be too fast for her. Outside of the zoom feat cap, sabretooth & gambit have feats comparable to her top speed feats. Slade has dodge superman more easily than her.

His best strength feat is moving a ship 16x the mass of earth under a red sun....