Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Superman is easily stronger, more durable, and is faster as well. All she has on him is combat speed. She is more skilled etc. and has her tools, but they are not something that would allow her to win, they are what allow how to survive against Superman in my opinion. Her Lasso is her only hope. If she can get that around him she wins, but even then, I believe we've seen that she cannot tag intangible people (Like John Johns.), so that's one of Superman's chances of getting out. As well, she isn't getting a clear headed Superman in her lasso any time soon. He isn't stupid.He would crush her in my opinion although she puts up a great fight.
She has more showings tagging intangible characters than she does failing to do so.
Originally posted by Konton
She's taken full powered blasts from Nekron and Zeus and brushed it off.
When was this?
I recall Nekron partially materializing on this plane, and he unleashed some lightning shaped bolts to drain people of their life. She was unaffected by it. How does that qualify as taking full powered blasts from Nekron? And what exactly makes Nekron a Skyfather? Especially back then?
You mean the time Zeus held Diana in check in the sky with a single lightning bolt? Hardly qualifies as taking a full powered blast. He wasn't even intending to kill her but simply trying to teach her a lesson. I don't even recall it stating he wanted to hurt her as far as I recall. On another occasion simply holding one of Zeus' bolts were burning her hands and she could only hold in her hands for a few seconds as I recall.
And exactly what is Zeus' most impressive feat? I mean the most impressive Olympian as far as I can tell is Ares, and Wonder Woman just one shotted him recently.
Originally posted by khazra
Outside of the zoom fight which is horrible PiS (she shouldnt be able to touch him. Period), sabretooth, gambit & cap have comparable combat speed/reflex feats.
For example Gambits blocked machinegun fire shots with his staff when its comeing from all angles.
Sabretooth has dodged incoing machine gun fire when blinfolded.
Cap had dodged multiple lasers at zero gravity.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yes he is. The Spectre thing is an unquantifiable feat. It was stated to hold an eternal conscious. And they both needed Kyle Rayner's help as well. That doesn't prove anything at all. 😐We've also seen Superman go above and beyond Wonder Woman. Imperiex Probes for example.
Skyfathers? When has she tanked attacked from Skyfather level beings. When has she tanked attacks from Abstract level beings? Herald level can mean characters from many levels.
What? The Lasso needs to physical touch her opponent to work does it not? That isn't happening if Superman is in his normal mind set.
Never seen it used to amp her striking power other than wrapping it around her fist.
Not really. At best she has superior combat speed but that's about it. We've seen Superman punk her and knock her around with his strength and speed.
Nah.
No. His simply superior to her, is all.
Like who? Anyone who can kick Superman's ass, you best believe they can just as easily pound the crap out of Wonder Woman in terms of physical prowess.
Originally posted by Zeuodin
When was the last time you picked up an actual Wonder Woman comic? That was 3 upgrades ago.
What has she done with her "upgrades" she couldnt do before? Her power level under simone isnt too impressive IMO.