Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't agree. i think at best (for her), she's even with him reflex wise. And that's me being kind.
Well, she did hold her own in a training match against Wally while blind.. You could argue Wally was holding back, but from Batmans words he was still trying to push her, and she was adapting to his speed.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
so you believe with sans speed he will still trump her for the maj
He's stronger, more durable, and he's shown that in a sparring match (and in actual fights) he's capable of touching her. it's not going to be like bruce lee vs some random mook.
Originally posted by cdtm
Well, she did hold her own in a training match against Wally while blind.. You could argue Wally was holding back, but from Batmans words he was still trying to push her, and she was adapting to his speed.
i'm not saying she's not fast. not at all. i just think superman has an edge, that's all.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
sparing matches dont count
Why not?
It was clear Wally was trying to speedblitz her, and she adapted from sixth senses (According to Batman, it was air displacement..).
Wonder Woman beat Barda in a sparring match, and most people still count it, both as a win for Diana and as a show of Bardas skill and physical stats for holding her own.
Originally posted by carver9
So there are people that agree with me about Diana speed vs Clark speed. Hhhhmm...someone should take that warning back.
The warning wasn't for your opinion. I don't warn people for their opinions.
Just be glad this isn't one of the other boards where the mods are less willing to explain themselves.
Originally posted by cdtm
Why not?It was clear Wally was trying to speedblitz her, and she adapted from sixth senses (According to Batman, it was air displacement..).
Wonder Woman beat Barda in a sparring match, and most people still count it, both as a win for Diana and as a show of Bardas skill and physical stats for holding her own.
simply because thats what it was simple sparring...it in no way indicates she has the ability to counter wallys speedblitz, simply that as he slighly increases his speed she was adjusting.
Originally posted by -Pr-Thinking about it, I agree.
I don't agree. i think at best (for her), she's even with him reflex wise. And that's me being kind.
Originally posted by Cogito
Superman's reflexes aren't as good, but he's still stronger and has a plethora of other abilities (HV, freeze breath, etc)
Superman's reflexes are excellent if you view his best feats (such as him and flash sitting in the lounge with time almost frozen). But WW can counter anything Superman's throws at her except freeze breath and him doing multiple attacks simultaneously (like freeze breath, hv, and punching all at the same time). My opinion may change to Superman winning though, I'm not sure now.
This fight can go either way depending on who decides to end it first.
Moving with Flash isn't something new.
http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/10/23/01/17/1228640_500x792.jpg
Almost forgot to add... Superman is even surprised by her speed. She even outreacts Amazo and tie him up before he moves a muscle.
http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/10/23/01/18/1228645_527x800.jpg
Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't agree. i think at best (for her), she's even with him reflex wise. And that's me being kind.
They specifically made the point that Superman's movement speed is higher but her HtH speed is. We aren't really talking a large gap here mind you, but it's not really in doubt.
Also, the tagged Wally while blind is sparing has been mentioned, but don't forget tagging Zoom while blind, and tagging Starro-controlled Wally while not blind. Wonder Woman tends to do quite well against Speedsters, and tends to be the one who catches Wally whenever he's mind controlled or otherwise loses control of his speed (she also got him in JLA when he forgot how to slow down due to an anomaly thingy that ate memory).
