Favorite scene from both of them...
http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/10/23/01/22/1228669_960x1456.jpg
She did the same thing to Amazo and he was coped with Flash speed including hers and Supes.
Favorite scene from both of them...
http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/10/23/01/22/1228669_960x1456.jpg
She did the same thing to Amazo and he was coped with Flash speed including hers and Supes.
Originally posted by Q99
Batman disagrees.They specifically made the point that Superman's movement speed is higher but her HtH speed is. We aren't really talking a large gap here mind you, but it's not really in doubt.
Also, the tagged Wally while blind is sparing has been mentioned, but don't forget tagging Zoom while blind, and tagging Starro-controlled Wally while not blind. Wonder Woman tends to do quite well against Speedsters, and tends to be the one who catches Wally whenever he's mind controlled or otherwise loses control of his speed (she also got him in JLA when he forgot how to slow down due to an anomaly thingy that ate memory).
😂
cool scene.
Originally posted by carver9
Almost forgot to add... Superman is even surprised by her speed. She even outreacts Amazo and tie him up before he moves a muscle.http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/10/23/01/18/1228645_527x800.jpg
That's not Superman talking.
Originally posted by Q99
Batman disagrees.They specifically made the point that Superman's movement speed is higher but her HtH speed is. We aren't really talking a large gap here mind you, but it's not really in doubt.
Also, the tagged Wally while blind is sparing has been mentioned, but don't forget tagging Zoom while blind, and tagging Starro-controlled Wally while not blind. Wonder Woman tends to do quite well against Speedsters, and tends to be the one who catches Wally whenever he's mind controlled or otherwise loses control of his speed (she also got him in JLA when he forgot how to slow down due to an anomaly thingy that ate memory).
-insert any of the dozen comments i've made about mcduffie-
Wonder Woman is not faster than Superman. How can she be? He's an entirely different class in terms of raw speed and above her in combat speed.
Some fans try to have their cake and eat too. They'll argue she's almost on par with him in combat speed or thereabouts while arguing she's also much more skilled. If she was both, she'd wreck Superman in hand to hand which obviously know won't ever happen.
I think this scene embodies how they match up pretty well:
http://s477.photobucket.com/albums/rr138/fangirl102/?action=view¤t=WonderWoman162p04-1.jpg&
http://s477.photobucket.com/albums/rr138/fangirl102/?action=view¤t=WonderWoman162p03-1.jpg&
Diana is extremely fast -she has to be- but trying to match Superman straight up is just stupid. However, her hand to hand skill tossed into the mix balances things out. Best case scenario for Diana is that she combines speed/skill to keep Superman off balance and wear him down such as in Sacrifice although it won't last for long. If the tables were turned however, Superman could very well punk Diana such as in the Phantom Zone arc. Of course, I think Rucka is a better comparison to Loeb in terms of higher end portrayals but that wouldn't be very fair. Under Loeb, Superman would break Diana.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Its just that superman fanboys just have a hard time admitting Di is superior 😉the deciding factors in this will be h2h, durability, stamina, strength, and weapons...speed is of no consequence
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if we go by your criteria, he has more advantages than she does, tbh.
i didn't know she had weapons in this though.
Originally posted by -Pr-
😂if we go by your criteria, he has more advantages than she does, tbh.
i didn't know she had weapons in this though.
well maybe, depends on which weapons she has since weapons are standard and thread starter didnt say strictly h2h...and he lasso makes up for the 3-2 advantage imo
Originally posted by Sin I AM
well maybe, depends on which weapons she has since weapons are standard and thread starter didnt say strictly h2h...and he lasso makes up for the 3-2 advantage imo
so let's say she gets her lasso, her tiara and bracers, i suppose. that's generally her standard. i still don't see it being enough to give her the majority.
even if i think superman is faster than her in general, it was rarely the reason i believed he'd beat her, so equalizing speed doesn't really mean much difference to me.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
How does she stand a better chance without her weapons? Specially that sword that can cut through Supes like butter.
sword isnt standard...her tiara, bracers and lasso are.
I dunno, i just think if push really came to shove she'd own him his strength is not that much greater that she cant beat him...but alas he is superman so i'd still give him the maj..6/10
Originally posted by Sin I AM
sword isnt standard...her tiara, bracers and lasso are.I dunno, i just think if push really came to shove she'd own him his strength is not that much greater that she cant beat him...but alas he is superman so i'd still give him the maj..6/10
but his strength IS a fair bit greater.
saying "he's Superman" is doing a disservice to the character and is neglecting his own powers/feats.
