First of all, want to say welcome back to the three guys that were banned. While I do feel like the ban was justified, that doesn't mean we all can't move past this. At least, that would be my hope.
Secondly, I'm going to clear up a few things about the mod stance on Sacrifice, and some of the rules of the board. First, I need to restate this:
Originally posted by -Pr-
Great, so I have to clarify this again. I'm going to bookmark this post in future so that I don't have to repeat myself.Using the punch is fine, as long as you're using it in the proper context.
It (Sacrifice) can be used as an example of how strong he can be with less restraint. It can be used to show that Wonder Woman went up against a high herald that was operating at above average power, and not just survived, but actually held her own at times.
It CAN'T, be used as an example of him operating at his best, or close to it, though. And it's not just because of the mental capacity thing, but that's the easiest way of using it.
Superman was mentally compromised. That alone is enough to rule out any argument that he was operating at even close to his best. The comic is very clear about this, and if that wasn't enough, then Rucka's interview in which he states Superman's lack of mental togetherness is the final nail in the coffin.
People like Carver might go on and on about it, but it doesn't change FACTS. Yes, FACTS.
The next point, is the one that I shouldn't have to bring up AT ALL. Characters with the same powers or powerset ARE NOT INTERCHANGEABLE. You cannot use examples of what Batman did with Superman's powers as an argument for Superman's sake. It should be common sense by now, but apparently I need to keep repeating myself.
As far as the whole "one-shot" thing goes? Don't be ridiculous. This isn't Superman operating at anything remotely close to his best. This is Superman on an average day, in an average mood, at his average power level being dropped in to a match with Diana. Do people actually read Superman comics? Or do you just see "Superman vs" and jump on it like some kind of deranged, starving zombie?
Stop lowballing. Diana's a herald.
The sad part? Superman doesn't NEED to one-shot her to win. He doesn't NEED to use examples from other characters using his own power. He has enough for himself, but that's not enough for some people, is it.
You have to take the Carver/Quan route and shit all over the opponent like they ran over your dog, or something. You're Superman fans; you're supposed to be BETTER THAN THAT.
Just be happy with him winning, ffs. That should be enough.
I will address the actual fight shortly, but I needed to get this post out first.
