A GL Ring vs. Supermans powers

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.

well by that same token wat if the sudden change of yur regular DNA into kryptonian DNA makes yur body turn to protoplasmic goop??

or if we goto the opposite end, say that ya DO get Supermans powers......and U cant stop the absorption rate (which is wat happened to him not long after he returned from the dead) so that U simply imbibe so much solar energy U cant open yur eyes w/o flash-frying everything in sight no matter where ya looked?

see, trying to apply a "what if...." -swing to 1/2 of this means the same can be done TO yur side also. theres plenty more that I can come up with, and Im sure U might be able to also.......but is it necessary??

just take the simple pwr-set comrade, and leave those who want the more advanced abilities to play w/theirs. then both sides can be happy.

Tazer

No offense but some of your what if scenarios are faulty.
1. Its not possible to turn your DNA into Kryptonian because there aren't any Kryptonians to analyse.
2. Superman's powers also include his IQ in which I can use to make a simple device which drains my energy like the Parasite did to be cured forever.

Trust me, those who pick the ring will feel like suckers when the ring runs out. Now if the OP says the ring comes with an infinite amount of charge and Superman's powers doesn't come with any negative side effects then yes picking the ring is a good choice. So is picking Superman's powers a good choice too. 😛

nah, ill just go back and forwards in time and get more thanks, or make others with the original

Originally posted by h1a8
No offense but some of your what if scenarios are faulty.
1. Its not possible to turn your DNA into Kryptonian because there aren't any Kryptonians to analyse.

The Oan database would have that information and the ring gives you access to that.

Originally posted by h1a8
2. Superman's powers also include his IQ in which I can use to make a simple device which drains my energy like the Parasite did to be cured forever.

Intelligence isn't a power.

Originally posted by illadelph12
You are aware that this is an exceedingly hollow argument, right?

Firstly, GL rings work in alternate dimensions and universes so even if the ring were here in our universe it would be empowered and connected to the Oan Central Battery.

Secondly, this entire thread would be completely meaningless if the intent were for the GL ring to be cut off from the Power of Oa. Then it would essentially be "Would you rather be Superman or Have a powerless Green Ring?". The thread author clearly intends for the GL Ring to have the same properties in the real world as it does in the comics, otherwise in the real world there aren't any Kryptonians just as there aren't Guardians or Oa, so there's no proof that the sunlight from our sun would grant the same abilities as the sun in the comic universe.

Thirdly, Lanterns have been depicted on panel to draw on energies other than the Central Power battery to re-energize their rings. They can absorb electricity, radiation, sound, and other forms of energy and convert them to their power source. GL Rings also offer matter and energy manipulation abilities similar to that of the Power Cosmic.

Fourthly, the ability to become Animal Man in conjunction to having a Ring is an asset. The subject of a previous argument was that the ring would need DNA templates to scan in order to incorporate the abilities into your own genetic make up, and since this is the real world there aren't any other known super powered humanoids. However, we do live on a planet full of animals which have physical abilities and characteristics that would be very useful to a human being, and via the ring you could copy these animal's genetic make ups and incorporate these attributes into yourself. In this manner even if the GL ring's power source does run out or is extremely low and in need of a charge you would still have inherent superpowers at your disposal.

Fifthly, due to the Ring being connected to the Guardian's Central Database on Oa and being a fully functioning supercomputer as well as a weapon, you have access to all the knowledge of the known DCU, which includes the genetic make up of every superhuman species which is either a member of the Corps or has been analyzed by a GL Ring. This would include Kryptonians, Daxamites, Thanagarians, Rannians, New Gods, Malthusians, Zamorans, Martians, and many other species and technologies which have all been cataloged in the Guardians' database, which is a repository of millions of years worth of knowledge from the 3600 sectors of the DCU and beyond.

The Ring is a thinking man's choice.

If you prefer simplicity, Superman's powers are for you.

Very good debating man!
I bow to you.
You're right, the ring is the best choice.
I would definitely use the ring to change my DNA into a kryptonian though (using the ring's database of Superman's dna) and not animal man's.

Yo.

Originally posted by Arse Man
No Hal was taken over by the standard parasite along with Green Arrow.

I dont remember Ollie being taken over by 'llax.....

Originally posted by Arse Man
Guy was taken over by a virus and Kyle got taken over by parralax.

Guy wasnt taken over by Despotellis, merely infected, and its not like we saw him UNABLE to cure himself. the problem there is that he got infected during the course of pulling WarWorld down on the AM, and simply never took the time to address the issue. if U have a scan that says they were unable to fight him off until that other GL could save him then plzz provide it.

and lets not talk about heroes getting taken over since Supes got taken over by Max Lord AND Dominus.

Originally posted by Arse Man
Guy like the previous poster said has also been taken over by a sentient bacteria in KGs run on Justice League. This was before IC and after COIE.

oh right, that was JL annual #1 IIRC. and as I recall it had infected just about EVERYONE on the planet.....*including* Superman.......except Jonn due to his physiology being so diff.

and either way its not like the Ring failed against it since it was never USED against it. hell, a few years later Ice used the Ring to cure Dr. Ivo of his immortality serum which was killing him simply by willing it to do so.

Originally posted by Arse Man
The ring is presently greatly depowered. Pre COIE Superman Vs. any GL. GLs die. As shown by the state of ion.

I'll take pre crisis Kryptonian Powers thanks

I'll grant ya that the Ring is being used far more simpler now, but the biggest example of it being less-powerful that we have on-panel is Stewart being told his will exceeded the Rings capacity while he was trying to rebuild a star system.

take that as U will.

and if we're talking pre-C characters, then yur damn-skippy Im taking
a GL Ring since even then Supes was dumbfounded by how the damnd thing worked.....and they has an infinite pipeline then.

Tazer

Yo.

Originally posted by h1a8
No offense but some of your what if scenarios are faulty.
1. Its not possible to turn your DNA into Kryptonian because there aren't any Kryptonians to analyse.

using the Oan database I could tweak my DNA *watever* & *however* I wanted. thats not even up for discussion.

Originally posted by h1a8
2. Superman's powers also include his IQ in which I can use to make a simple device which drains my energy like the Parasite did to be cured forever.

actually, that only came as a result of: having access to Kryptonian knowledge AND having gone thru that whole "Electro-Supes" period......which is something *U* wouldnt have done.

and as pointed out above: intelligence isnt a power. nice try.

Originally posted by h1a8
Trust me, those who pick the ring will feel like suckers when the ring runs out. Now if the OP says the ring comes with an infinite amount of charge and Superman's powers doesn't come with any negative side effects then yes picking the ring is a good choice. So is picking Superman's powers a good choice too. 😛

if the Ring runs out, I'll just recharge it (tip: some GLs have carried their Lanterns w/them on missions), whereas if U wander into a star system with a red sun......well, yur pretty much ****ed into being a space popsicle.

good luck w/that.

Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.

I dont remember Ollie being taken over by 'llax.....

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Yo (ALi Gee)

He wasn't it was in Johns second arc. Collected as Wanted Hal Jordan. Do you even read comics? They were both taken over by a parasitic plant. I am a troll and even I have read that one.

-Sol

Yo.

Originally posted by illadelph12 🙂
IIRC, in the JLA / Avengers crossover Kyle was able to recharge his ring by absorbing energy from a Cosmic Cube. In the Green Lantern / Silver Surfer crossover, the Power Cosmic and the Green Lantern Powers were shown to be compatible. I'll see if I can find scans of Kyle and Hal recharging with alternate sources. I believe I mispoke about a ring being able to be charged by electricity. A ring can absorb electricity, store it, and re-direct it, but I don't believe it can actually convert the electricty into it's power source or a compatible alternative. The ring needs a sufficient alternative energy source to draw from. Like a star for example.

see, I wouldnt use the JLA/Avengers -bit even tho it IS in-continuity for the JLA.

Hal in that GL/SS x-over was Parallax, so I dont know if that applies.

I think U got that Ring recharged-via-electricity -bit came from the cartoon "Static Shock"

and I dont remem a Ring ever recharging from solar energy b4, but I'd be curious to be filled in on said details........

🙂

Tazer

Yo.

Originally posted by Shang Chi
Yo (ALi Gee)

He wasn't it was in Johns second arc. Collected as Wanted Hal Jordan. Do you even read comics? They were poth taken over by a parasitic plant. I am a troll and even I have read that one.

-Sol

the comment said "the standard parasite", and sorry but thats not too damnd descriptive to work with easily.

HOWEVER, I now know wat is being referred to and I hate to tell ya but the Black Mercy IS NOT "the standard parasite" (far from it at that), and if I recall that story correctly didnt Hal free BOTH him & Ollie from its effects??

meanwhile Superman was being held captive very same plant in its very 1st appearance.

Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.

the comment said "the standard parasite", and sorry but thats not too damnd descriptive to work with easily.

HOWEVER, I now know wat is being referred to and I hate to tell ya but the Black Mercy [B]IS NOT "the standard parasite" (far from it at that), and if I recall that story correctly didnt Hal free BOTH him & Ollie from its effects??

meanwhile Superman was being held captive very same plant in its very 1st appearance.

Tazer [/B]

Wat, lol. The Black mercy is a parasite. It took them over. You are a Xenobiologist? Duration doesn't matter it took them over. Way back in geffens run on the Justice League, Guy Gardener was taken over by a sentient cell.

So much for the power rings defences.

Yo.

Originally posted by Shang Chi
Wat, lol. The Black mercy is a parasite. It took them over. You are a Xenobiologist? Duration doesn't matter it took them over. Way back in geffens run on the Justice League, Guy Gardener was taken over by a sentient cell.

So much for the power rings defences.

so how does Hal getting taken over by something THAT ALSO TOOK OVER Superman.....mean the Ring is weak again especially since the Ring is wat helped FREE THEM??

and again that sentient cell either took over ALL life on the planet or was about to....how does THAT also mean GL <<<< Supes??

Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.

using the Oan database I could tweak my DNA *watever* & *however* I wanted. thats not even up for discussion.

actually, that only came as a result of: having access to Kryptonian knowledge AND having gone thru that whole "Electro-Supes" period......which is something *U* wouldnt have done.

and as pointed out above: intelligence isnt a power. nice try.

if the Ring runs out, I'll just recharge it (tip: some GLs have carried their Lanterns w/them on missions), whereas if U wander into a star system with a red sun......well, yur pretty much ****ed into being a space popsicle.

good luck w/that.

Tazer

illadelph12 has already set me straight.
The ring wins.

Yo.

Originally posted by h1a8
illadelph12 has already set me straight.
The ring wins.

this wasnt about which pwr-set wins tho; or rather, it shouldnt have been.

Tazer

Yo.

awww.....looks like Shang Chi & quanchii went bye-bye.

😉

Tazer

What Im still here and my opinion still stays the same. Again gl's aint shit compared to a kryptonian.

A GL ring can do anything literally ANYTHING!
Including turning your own DNA Kryptonian!
Or is use to be able to anyway.

Can Superman's powers do absolutely anything without waiting for a upgrade or retcon by DC's writting staff?

And yes this is Entity. I'm at my girlfriends so this is her account.

Originally posted by darth hobbit
And yes this is Entity. I'm at my girlfriends so this is her account.

Your girls screen name is darth hobbit? ermm

Originally posted by darth hobbit
A GL ring can do anything literally ANYTHING!
Including turning your own DNA Kryptonian!
Or is use to be able to anyway.

Still can.

Originally posted by darth hobbit
Can Superman's powers do absolutely anything without waiting for a upgrade or retcon by DC's writting staff?

Huh?

Originally posted by darth hobbit
And yes this is Entity. I'm at my girlfriends so this is her account.

You've got one weird GF . . .

Yo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What Im still here and my opinion still stays the same. Again gl's aint shit compared to a kryptonian.

I must say Im pretty disappointed by yur low llvl of tenacity AND ability to refute or argue anything that I or any1 else in agreement w/me has said in this thread......

the most that Uve done is try to play "who has the bigger set", and it hasnt worked.

*tsk tsk tsk*

Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.

I must say Im pretty disappointed by yur low llvl of tenacity AND ability to refute or argue anything that I or any1 else in agreement w/me has said in this thread......

the most that Uve done is try to play "who has the bigger set", and it hasnt worked.

*tsk tsk tsk*

Tazer