A GL Ring vs. Supermans powers

Started by Doctor-Alvis14 pages

I'd still rather have the ring. You can hold things without breaking them and walk at a comfortable speed without destroying everything. And even if your ring runs out of the primary power you have a supercomputer on your finger. And even if it doesn't work, you can sell it to the government and prematurely start the next technology boom like good ol' Megatron.

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.

it has multiple times; the last person to do so from my memory was a time-alterd Guy Gardner in JLE .

Tazer

then surely there is no debate about the rings power because you could just go back in time when ever you it gets low on power just before you get the ring originally and take the new ring, then go back in time early and take another new ring, go forwards in time to give the other ring to yourself, then youve created a comfortable cirlce of infnite ring usage, and when ever the old ring goes cold, sell it for tonnes as above said, sell it to the government and such while still keeping your fully powered ring from the past, and keep dong this

so eventually youll be rich and incredibly powerful

superman powers only go so far, would likely be uncomfortable and such, i think superman powers is chosen by the younger rather than the more complicated GL ring which could be far more powerful than superman or more useful to someone in an every day world

also can you not have more than one ring for more power? so maybe using this method you could gain a ring for each finger and thumb, or at least each finger for more power, but either way would this method of time travel work to keep the ring going?

Do I get the jobber aura as well?

Originally posted by h1a8
What if there is no suitable energy in the universe? After all this is the real universe and not the D.C. universe.

What is there is no other beings in the universe but on Earth or what if the beings on Earth are the most advanced species?

Who cares of being Animal Man when one has a GL ring? This makes no sense.

If I can't use the ring to grant me Superman's (or greater) powers before the ring runs out of energy then the ring is worthless.

You are aware that this is an exceedingly hollow argument, right?

Firstly, GL rings work in alternate dimensions and universes so even if the ring were here in our universe it would be empowered and connected to the Oan Central Battery.

Secondly, this entire thread would be completely meaningless if the intent were for the GL ring to be cut off from the Power of Oa. Then it would essentially be "Would you rather be Superman or Have a powerless Green Ring?". The thread author clearly intends for the GL Ring to have the same properties in the real world as it does in the comics, otherwise in the real world there aren't any Kryptonians just as there aren't Guardians or Oa, so there's no proof that the sunlight from our sun would grant the same abilities as the sun in the comic universe.

Thirdly, Lanterns have been depicted on panel to draw on energies other than the Central Power battery to re-energize their rings. They can absorb electricity, radiation, sound, and other forms of energy and convert them to their power source. GL Rings also offer matter and energy manipulation abilities similar to that of the Power Cosmic.

Fourthly, the ability to become Animal Man in conjunction to having a Ring is an asset. The subject of a previous argument was that the ring would need DNA templates to scan in order to incorporate the abilities into your own genetic make up, and since this is the real world there aren't any other known super powered humanoids. However, we do live on a planet full of animals which have physical abilities and characteristics that would be very useful to a human being, and via the ring you could copy these animal's genetic make ups and incorporate these attributes into yourself. In this manner even if the GL ring's power source does run out or is extremely low and in need of a charge you would still have inherent superpowers at your disposal.

Fifthly, due to the Ring being connected to the Guardian's Central Database on Oa and being a fully functioning supercomputer as well as a weapon, you have access to all the knowledge of the known DCU, which includes the genetic make up of every superhuman species which is either a member of the Corps or has been analyzed by a GL Ring. This would include Kryptonians, Daxamites, Thanagarians, Rannians, New Gods, Malthusians, Zamorans, Martians, and many other species and technologies which have all been cataloged in the Guardians' database, which is a repository of millions of years worth of knowledge from the 3600 sectors of the DCU and beyond.

The Ring is a thinking man's choice.

If you prefer simplicity, Superman's powers are for you.

Yo.

Originally posted by Burning thought
then surely there is no debate about the rings power because you could just go back in time when ever you it gets low on power just before you get the ring originally and take the new ring, then go back in time early and take another new ring, go forwards in time to give the other ring to yourself, then youve created a comfortable cirlce of infnite ring usage, and when ever the old ring goes cold, sell it for tonnes as above said, sell it to the government and such while still keeping your fully powered ring from the past, and keep dong this

so eventually youll be rich and incredibly powerful

something tells me U've been watching that Futurama movie, cuz there was alot of time-jumping in there too....... 😉

Originally posted by Burning thought
superman powers only go so far, would likely be uncomfortable and such, i think superman powers is chosen by the younger rather than the more complicated GL ring which could be far more powerful than superman or more useful to someone in an every day world

also can you not have more than one ring for more power? so maybe using this method you could gain a ring for each finger and thumb, or at least each finger for more power, but either way would this method of time travel work to keep the ring going?

the only real argument U can make for "more Rings = more POWAH" would be from the confidence *maybe* boosting yur will, but aside from that it doesnt really work te way that ya might think.

Tazer

Yo.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Thirdly, Lanterns have been depicted on panel to draw on energies other than the Central Power battery to re-energize their rings. They can absorb electricity, radiation, sound, and other forms of energy and convert them to their power source.

point of order: when have U ever seen a Ring *recharge* via electricity or other means??

Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.

something tells me U've been watching that Futurama movie, cuz there was alot of time-jumping in there too....... 😉

the only real argument U can make for "more Rings = more POWAH" would be from the confidence *maybe* boosting yur will, but aside from that it doesnt really work te way that ya might think.

Tazer

no ive not seen any futarama or whatever it is, isnt it a lot like a sci-fie simpsons thing? but anyway ive played many time jumping games, and seen time jumping fiction, ime into time stuff, since id like to be able to do things i enjoyed in the past more than once, whats the point in the future without being able to look at memories is what i say, but more importantly, is it possible? could i have an unlimited ring by constantly going back and getting it again and again, i would have infnite ring charge

well id prob just get more rings for the sake of having a ring on each finger to test it, and if it doesnt work id sell them all i guess or keep them for later if they dont lose their charge while ime not using them, doesnt really matter as long as i can get rid of them. Selling them could be dangerous to me and the world

Yo.

Originally posted by Burning thought
well id prob just get more rings for the sake of having a ring on each finger to test it, and if it doesnt work id sell them all i guess or keep them for later if they dont lose their charge while ime not using them, doesnt really matter as long as i can get rid of them. Selling them could be dangerous to me and the world

ok, well let me save U the trouble by infoming ya that (atleast in the old days) GL Rings could fashion exact functional duplicates, so ya dont need to be creating any time-paradoxes just to get another.

😄

Tazer

Additional rings =/= Additional power

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.

ok, well let me save U the trouble by infoming ya that (atleast in the old days) GL Rings could fashion exact functional duplicates, so ya dont need to be creating any time-paradoxes just to get another.

😄

Tazer

so technically i could create a full powered ring just from the old one? meh then why are there people debating the ring having power only for a day and supermans for life

the ring owns Superman powers bad if you cant even run out of em

Originally posted by illadelph12
You are aware that this is an exceedingly hollow argument, right?

Firstly, GL rings work in alternate dimensions and universes so even if the ring were here in our universe it would be empowered and connected to the Oan Central Battery.

Secondly, this entire thread would be completely meaningless if the intent were for the GL ring to be cut off from the Power of Oa. Then it would essentially be "Would you rather be Superman or Have a powerless Green Ring?". The thread author clearly intends for the GL Ring to have the same properties in the real world as it does in the comics, otherwise in the real world there aren't any Kryptonians just as there aren't Guardians or Oa, so there's no proof that the sunlight from our sun would grant the same abilities as the sun in the comic universe.

Thirdly, Lanterns have been depicted on panel to draw on energies other than the Central Power battery to re-energize their rings. They can absorb electricity, radiation, sound, and other forms of energy and convert them to their power source. GL Rings also offer matter and energy manipulation abilities similar to that of the Power Cosmic.

Fourthly, the ability to become Animal Man in conjunction to having a Ring is an asset. The subject of a previous argument was that the ring would need DNA templates to scan in order to incorporate the abilities into your own genetic make up, and since this is the real world there aren't any other known super powered humanoids. However, we do live on a planet full of animals which have physical abilities and characteristics that would be very useful to a human being, and via the ring you could copy these animal's genetic make ups and incorporate these attributes into yourself. In this manner even if the GL ring's power source does run out or is extremely low and in need of a charge you would still have inherent superpowers at your disposal.

Fifthly, due to the Ring being connected to the Guardian's Central Database on Oa and being a fully functioning supercomputer as well as a weapon, you have access to all the knowledge of the known DCU, which includes the genetic make up of every superhuman species which is either a member of the Corps or has been analyzed by a GL Ring. This would include Kryptonians, Daxamites, Thanagarians, Rannians, New Gods, Malthusians, Zamorans, Martians, and many other species and technologies which have all been cataloged in the Guardians' database, which is a repository of millions of years worth of knowledge from the 3600 sectors of the DCU and beyond.

The Ring is a thinking man's choice.

If you prefer simplicity, Superman's powers are for you.

...Wait so, theoretically you could turn yourself into Darkseid ?

Yes.

Originally posted by Ghey Fox
Yes.

😆

Oh how cute, some godforsaken little ne'er-do-well has copied me. I'm flattered I assure you.

The problem with all your ideas as to what a GL ring can or can't do, is your ideas are almost all pre IC or pre Johns. It is obvious the nature of the rings has changed and that they have been depowered in some respects. For instance Kyle needed help to be saved from the intelligent "yellow lantern" virus. I time would have existed when no virus could affect a GL.

The GLs you are arguing for are as gone as post crisis superman. So if it's a choice between GL of the past and Pre C Superman.

Pre C Superman all the way.

Originally posted by Ghey Fox
The problem with all your ideas as to what a GL ring can or can't do, is your ideas are almost all pre IC or pre Johns. It is obvious the nature of the rings has changed and that they have been depowered in some respects. For instance Kyle needed help to be saved from the intelligent "yellow lantern" virus. I time would have existed when no virus could affect a GL.

The GLs you are arguing for are as gone as post crisis superman. So if it's a choice between GL of the past and Pre C Superman.

Pre C Superman all the way.

The impostor does have a point.

However I would like to point out that Kyle was pwned by Destoppolis (?) as part of the plot, he also didn't know it was there (I think) and would probably have had great difficulty in exorcising it, considering Guy needed a Sentient GL virus to defeat it.

Originally posted by grey fox
The impostor does have a point.

However I would like to point out that Kyle was pwned by Destoppolis (?) as part of the plot, he also didn't know it was there (I think) and would probably have had great difficulty in exorcising it, considering Guy needed a Sentient GL virus to defeat it.

In the old days no virus could have affected guy accept for that time one did in JL and Jon had to take it into him other Ghey fox

Originally posted by Ghey Fox
In the old days no virus could have affected guy accept for that time one did in JL and Jon had to take it into him other Ghey fox

Do you have a speech impediment ? It is Grey Fox, R not a H.

In the old days Lanterns could freeze time, revive the dead and change people into living light.

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.

point of order: when have U ever seen a Ring *recharge* via electricity or other means??

Tazer

IIRC, in the JLA / Avengers crossover Kyle was able to recharge his ring by absorbing energy from a Cosmic Cube. In the Green Lantern / Silver Surfer crossover, the Power Cosmic and the Green Lantern Powers were shown to be compatible. I'll see if I can find scans of Kyle and Hal recharging with alternate sources. I believe I mispoke about a ring being able to be charged by electricity. A ring can absorb electricity, store it, and re-direct it, but I don't believe it can actually convert the electricty into it's power source or a compatible alternative. The ring needs a sufficient alternative energy source to draw from. Like a star for example.

Yo.

Originally posted by Ghey Fox
The problem with all your ideas as to what a GL ring can or can't do, is your ideas are almost all pre IC or pre Johns. It is obvious the nature of the rings has changed and that they have been depowered in some respects. For instance Kyle needed help to be saved from the intelligent "yellow lantern" virus. I time would have existed when no virus could affect a GL.

Kyle wasnt infected by a virus, that was Guy (Kyle got taken over by a parasite).

now U can make an argument for Kyle, but as it comes to Guy theres no scene where we saw the Ring FAIL to extract Despotellis, was just easier to send in a fellow Gl used to working in a similar fashion.

Originally posted by Ghey Fox
The GLs you are arguing for are as gone as post crisis superman. So if it's a choice between GL of the past and Pre C Superman.

Pre C Superman all the way.

if we're talking pre-C (as in Crisis on Infinite Earths) GL versus that same Supes, then its *still* GL ftw.

Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.

Kyle wasnt infected by a virus, that was Guy (Kyle got taken over by a parasite).

now U can make an argument for Kyle, but as it comes to Guy theres no scene where we saw the Ring FAIL to extract Despotellis, was just easier to send in a fellow Gl used to working in a similar fashion.

if we're talking pre-C (as in Crisis on Infinite Earths) GL versus that same Supes, then its *still* GL ftw.

Tazer

No Hal was taken over by the standard parasite along with Green Arrow.

Guy was taken over by a virus and Kyle got taken over by parralax.

Guy like the previous poster said has also been taken over by a sentient bacteria in KGs run on Justice League. This was before IC and after COIE. The ring is presently greatly depowered. Pre COIE Superman Vs. any GL. GLs die. As shown by the state of ion.

I'll take pre crisis Kryptonian Powers thanks

-Arse