ahh i see, i swear even SHM or Terry have said "zomg possesion" on a number of occasions 🙄
oh well, with that aside i see no reason for Demtri not to Midnight bliss the guy, drain him dry, take his soul or lifestream as its affectionatley known
either way, even those who think lifestream is nothing like the soul, his blood is poured from his body and hes pretty useless as a dried female sephiroth ime sure
Originally posted by Burning thought
ahh i see, i swear even SHM or Terry have said "zomg possesion" on a number of occasions 🙄oh well, with that aside i see no reason for Demtri not to Midnight bliss the guy, drain him dry, take his soul or lifestream as its affectionatley known
either way, even those who think lifestream is nothing like the soul, his blood is poured from his body and hes pretty useless as a dried female sephiroth ime sure
That is one of the key reasons i say Lifestream is not like the soul. Because it if was, anyone with a soul couldn't beat Sephiroth due to that very reason. Since i hate soul and time powers because their just bull**it and ruin good fights. IF you think that soul/lifestream are one and the same, then any soul steal on Sephiroth would be an immediate self kill.
Originally posted by EvilAngel
That is one of the key reasons i say Lifestream is not like the soul. Because it if was, anyone with a soul couldn't beat Sephiroth due to that very reason. Since i hate soul and time powers because their just bull**it and ruin good fights. [b]IF you think that soul/lifestream are one and the same, then any soul steal on Sephiroth would be an immediate self kill. [/B]
ime confused how would stealing or detroying the soul of sephiroth kill the stealer?
Explanation about Geostigma: A person have J-cells inside him/her. Sephiroth can use his will to make the cells "attack" the body. The body fights against it, but the effort is too much, and the person dies. That's Geostigma.
After the person dies, his/her soul is corrupted. Many corrupted souls join together, forming the Negative Lifestream.
The Negative Lifestream is nothing more than normal Lifestream corrupted by Sephiroth/Jenova's essence, and under his control. It have the same power of the normal Lifestream.
And the Lifestream is the source of all magic in FFVII, including destructive magic, like Summons, Ultima, and many others. Shinra used the Lifestream in their Mako Cannon of Junon, and it was stated in BC that a normal shot of the cannon can destroy all of Midgar. And in the end of FFVII, a portion of the Lifestream destroyed Meteor(and many buildings, as stated in "On a Way to a Smile: Case of Denzel"😉.
The Lifestream have a great power of destruction, and that's why Sephiroth was using it in AC/ACC to destroy everything in the planet.
The Lifestream is effective in any universe. It's the source of FFVII's magic afterall, and magic is effective in other universes.
And no, I never said Sephiroth can posses people. If you want to accuse me of that, you have to prove that I said it.
Hard to explain, maybe if i try an analogy.
Sephiroths soul, the negative lifestream is a virus infested mass.
When it's stole/eaten, it would be the same if you ate bad meat.
The Virus would find the new area and begin effecting the cells until you ended up much like the previous host.
Was that any easier to understand?
Originally posted by EvilAngel
Hard to explain, maybe if i try an analogy.Sephiroths soul, the negative lifestream is a virus infested mass.
When it's stole/eaten, it would be the same if you ate bad meat.
The Virus would find the new area and begin effecting the cells until you ended up much like the previous host.
Was that any easier to understand?
but thats exactley how i see it, Sephiroths lifestream will is simply stronger than other wills and can disregard their lifestream, even the lifestream on the planet he apprently disregarded the rules of, so how can sephiroth take someone over without lifestream, how does he do it exactley
also that would be if they ate it, what if they simply killed it or sent it out of his body or imprisoned his soul, then hed be in danger, but either way, Demitri doesnt need to use soul powers
Originally posted by SHMThe Lifestream [b]is
effective in any universe. It's the source of FFVII's magic afterall, and magic is effective in other universes.And no, I never said Sephiroth can posses people. If you want to accuse me of that, you have to prove that I said it. [/B]
its the source of FF7 magic but that doesnt mean it would be effective again beings who dont have any part of the lifestream in them in the ways suggested like destruction if the stream touches, i mean sure the powers it gives the user like making magic would work, but not the stream itself imo
"shrug" i dont really care tbh, i just thought maybe you were the one, calm down.......someone did however
Originally posted by Burning thought
its the source of FF7 magic but that doesnt mean it would be effective again beings who dont have any part of the lifestream in them in the ways suggested like destruction if the stream touches, i mean sure the powers it gives the user like making magic would work, but not the stream itself imo
Buildings and Meteor don't have Lifestream inside them. But that didn't stop the Lifestream of destroying them.
"shrug" i dont really care tbh, i just thought maybe you were the one, calm down.......someone did however
It's okay.
Originally posted by Burning thought
but thats exactley how i see it, Sephiroths lifestream will is simply stronger than other wills and can disregard their lifestream, even the lifestream on the planet he apprently disregarded the rules of, so how can sephiroth take someone over without lifestream, how does he do it exactleyalso that would be if they ate it, what if they simply killed it or sent it out of his body or imprisoned his soul, then hed be in danger, but either way, Demitri doesnt need to use soul powers
That exactly my point. You can't have it a one way street. Either:
1) Lifestream and souls are one and the same, inwhich case anythnig has have a corrupting or negative effect of lifestream, will do the same to souls. Thus Any attack on Sephiroth souls is suicide in the literal sense.
OR
2) Lifestream and Souls are two different things, thus theres no reason to think a Soul attack would effect the lifestream flow inside a person from Gaia. Equally, no negative effects from the lifestream of a person from Gaia can affect another person Soul.
The answer the second part of your post, if you eat raw meat does your body dispose of all the bacteria that will harm your body and make you sick? No
Thus it's very illogical to assume the soul can do so to the Negative effects of Sephiroth's lifestream.
Originally posted by EvilAngel
That exactly my point. You can't have it a one way street. Either:1) Lifestream and souls are one and the same, inwhich case anythnig has have a corrupting or negative effect of lifestream, will do the same to souls. Thus Any attack on Sephiroth souls is suicide in the literal sense.
OR
2) Lifestream and Souls are two different things, thus theres no reason to think a Soul attack would effect the lifestream flow inside a person from Gaia. Equally, no negative effects from the lifestream of a person from Gaia can affect another person Soul.
The answer the second part of your post, if you eat raw meat does your body dispose of all the bacteria that will harm your body and make you sick? No
Thus it's very illogical to assume the soul can do so to the Negative effects of Sephiroth's lifestream.
fair enough i suppose, i see where your coming from now
if it was accepted that lifestream and souls are the same, souls from FF (lifestream) or at least negative lifestream and sephiroth woudl effect a soul of another fiction if it came into contact i see
Originally posted by SHM
Buildings and Meteor don't have Lifestream inside them. But that didn't stop the Lifestream of destroying them.It's okay.
hmm maybe, but i was told everything on the planet was made of lifestream even materials and other things that are inanimate so i imagined this would include materials and so in effect buildings but i prob was told wrong or understood wrong
also i thought holy destroyed the meteor, not the lfiestream itself?
also when did stream destroy buildings? is this in AC, a part that is not displayed that i can see without seeing the film?
Originally posted by Burning thought
fair enough i suppose, i see where your coming from nowif it was accepted that lifestream and souls are the same, souls from FF (lifestream) or at least negative lifestream and sephiroth woudl effect a soul of another fiction if it came into contact i see
Yaysies, Success 😄
Yes, i would agree with that
Originally posted by EvilAngel
Erm, i'm sure the children from AC aquired to Jenova Cells in the way I described 😕
No, they didn't. In the end of FFVII, the Lifestream came out of the planet to destroy Meteor. But it was carrying J-cells with it, and infected many people of the world with her cells.
Originally posted by SHM
No, they didn't. In the end of FFVII, the Lifestream came out of the planet to destroy Meteor. But it was carrying J-cells with it, and infected many people of the world with her cells.
Ahh okies, thanks for that, seems i've been in the dark about that little fact for some time 😐
Originally posted by Burning thought
hmm maybe, but i was told everything on the planet was made of lifestream even materials and other things that are inanimate so i imagined this would include materials and so in effect buildings but i prob was told wrong or understood wrong
From my knowledge, Lifestream is the source of life and magic in FFVII. Inanimate objects aren't alive, so...
also i thought holy destroyed the meteor, not the lfiestream itself?
Holy was too late. Meteor was already too close to be stoped by it, and then the Lifestream itself had to "save the day".
also when did stream destroy buildings? is this in AC, a part that is not displayed that i can see without seeing the film?
It's in a novela released by S-E called "On a Way to a Smile".
I never said Demitri would get possessed by Sephiroth out of no where, i said if Demitri ABSORBS Sephiroth he would be infected by J-cells, thus; getting infected by Sephiroth.
I'm still waiting on this information about this "Dimensional Arrow", its not in demitris respect thread
Also, how do you know that Midnight Bliss can simply kill anyone with blood? We dont even know how it works, there are a number of DS characters with blood, why cant he "simply" beat them? Donovan, has blood, Jedah has blood, etc