APOC ans SS vs Superman and MM

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APOC ans SS vs Superman and MM

everyone is at their peak performance.
Apoc
Siver Surfer

VS

Superman
Martian Manhunter

no bfr

Team 1 for an easy win. SS nullifies Superman with Kryptonite wavelength energy blasts while MM struggles against Apocalypse, then it's a 2v1 against MM and he goes down hard.

Surfer soloes

Apocalypse is the weak link. MM takes him down, then it's a 2 on 1 on Surfer.

Originally posted by Kutulu
Team 1 for an easy win. SS nullifies Superman with Kryptonite wavelength energy blasts while MM struggles against Apocalypse, then it's a 2v1 against MM and he goes down hard.

I believe we've done this dance before, and although theoritically it is within Surfers powerset to create such a radiation wavelength, in a fight with no prep or information about his opponents, how would he know that Superman is weakened by it? Furthermore, Kryptonite does not exist in the Marvel Universe so how would Surfer know what it is in order to duplicate that form of radiation?

Originally posted by nimbus006
I believe we've done this dance before, and although theoritically it is within Surfers powerset to create such a radiation wavelength, in a fight with no prep or information about his opponents, how would he know that Superman is weakened by it? Furthermore, Kryptonite does not exist in the Marvel Universe so how would Surfer know what it is in order to duplicate that form of radiation?

Cosmic awareness. Just like he knew what type of radiation gladiator was weak too. Also he knew Hulk had gamma and various other circumstances.
About the k-nite not excisting. He always has red sun radiation.
And its not like powerfull cosmic blasts will not hurt superman just cause those are not his weaknesses.

Originally posted by Inhuman
Cosmic awareness. Just like he knew what type of radiation gladiator was weak too. Also he knew Hulk had gamma and various other circumstances.

But Superman is not from this Universe, and neither is K-Nite. Surfer has cosmic awareness, but he's Omni-potent. I just think its a weak argument to say Surfer wins via Kryptonite radiation blasts.

Originally posted by Inhuman
About the k-nite not excisting. He always has red sun radiation. [/B]

Very true, however I was specifically speaking about K-Nite.

Originally posted by Inhuman And its not like powerfull cosmic blasts will not hurt superman just cause those are not his weaknesses. [/B]

I agree, never said powerful cosmic blasts wouldn't hurt him.

Originally posted by nimbus006
But Superman is not from this Universe, and neither is K-Nite. Surfer has cosmic awareness, but he's Omni-potent. I just think its a weak argument to say Surfer wins via Kryptonite radiation blasts.

The argument is that surfer can see every spectrum of energy. That's how he discovered Gladiator's flaw in the first place. If someone has a flaw to a certain type of energy, Surfer can see it. His sense of energy is one of the greatest of all the characters in Marvel Universe.

Very true, however I was specifically speaking about K-Nite.

Surfer would be able to see the Kryptonite weakness the instant he looks at superman. It doesn't matter if kryptonite existed in the universe or not - the fact remains is that Superman is vulnerable to the wavelength of energy that Kryptonite emits, not the Kryptonite itself. Surfer can simply duplicate those waves and generate a cosmic level blast of those waves.

It would be like a chunk of kryptonite amplified millions of times.

Never said powerful cosmic blasts wouldn't hurt him.

Cosmic powered blasts in a kryptonite wavelength would annihilate him in one shot.

spite thread.

Team 1 all year long.

correct me if im wrong but doesnt surfer have a notoriously weak mind
and isnt one of the people on team 2 a mind rapist....

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
correct me if im wrong but doesnt surfer have a notoriously weak mind
and isnt one of the people on team 2 a mind rapist....

Surfer weak to mental attack? I don't know.

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
correct me if im wrong but doesnt surfer have a notoriously weak mind

No.

Surfer solos with ease.

Originally posted by janus77
Surfer solos with ease.

Against two top tier flying bricks?I think not surfer has enough trouble with thor let alone supes and mm.

SS won't solo, especially not easily. With Apocalypse help, then he wins.

MM and Superman wouldn't trouble Surfer in the least.
both are too slow and too vulnerable to his staggering range of powers.

Apoc really does nothing here. he's pretty much insignificant really.

Originally posted by janus77
MM and Superman wouldn't trouble Surfer in the least.
both are too slow and too vulnerable to his staggering range of powers.

Apoc really does nothing here. he's pretty much insignificant really.

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Overrated.

Originally posted by janus77
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Apoc is not insignificant.