Originally posted by Transfinitum
I have met Satanists... the only reason they believe in the Devil is the allure of power. It is a selfish, monstrous belief.
Ah, so case studies count as empirical data now? No, I meant do you actually understand the philosophy, or are you just attacking it because of the name (which, admittedly, is probably the reaction they expect, but still isn't warranted)?
not all Satanist want power...they want understanding and want more than a "god" that lets you live life not knowing what to do, not knowing why we hurt, why our lives get screwed up even though we worship it for hours on end...thats what alot of Satanist want...a God who can tell us these things and one we can trust
besides...this forum is to show what people prefer...not which is better
Originally posted by Transfinitum
to the destructive forces that try to kill them all and corrupt their soul and future.
Which that stupid piece of shit God has created as well. Here's a tip for that fascist God *******:
DO NOT CREATE EVIL!
God's ways are mysterious my ass, they are just cruel and stupid. Like the mother****er himself.
Originally posted by Transfinitum
This is the most disgusting thing I have seen in a while. The idea that satanism is even a comparison to Christianity is sickening. Compare the Catholic Church, whose single goal is to promote the welfare of the world through prayer, almsgiving, charity, and salvation to a cult that is so twisted as to believe evil is good and truth is fallacy, and whose only goal is to achieve power during their short lifetime. It is comparing the church of the incarnate God who created everything, including all people out of His love, to the destructive forces that try to kill them all and corrupt their soul and future. There is no greater goal for a Christian than to save, for a Satanist to kill. The truth is self-explanatory.
Judge not lest ye be judged, especially when you seem as though you don't know what you're talking about.
There is a simple comparison that can be made to sort all of this out. The Catholic Church and Christendom in general believes that there is a Heaven and a Hell, and attempt to strive towards paradise (heaven) rather than eternal suffering and punishment (hell). The Atheist or Agnostic does not believe in a heaven or hell, but the Satanist believes that there is a hell and knows beyond a shadow of a doubt he is going there! To eternal damnation. Also the philosophies of Satanism are so cruel as to this extent: To celebrate a "black mass" one must go to a Catholic Church, steal the consecrated host and then go and blaspheme and mutilate it. The philosophy is self-explanatory.
Originally posted by Transfinitum
There is a simple comparison that can be made to sort all of this out. The Catholic Church and Christendom in general believes that there is a Heaven and a Hell, and attempt to strive towards paradise (heaven) rather than eternal suffering and punishment (hell). The Atheist or Agnostic does not believe in a heaven or hell, but the Satanist believes that there is a hell and knows beyond a shadow of a doubt he is going there! To eternal damnation. Also the philosophies of Satanism are so cruel as to this extent: To celebrate a "black mass" one must go to a Catholic Church, steal the consecrated host and then go and blaspheme and mutilate it. The philosophy is self-explanatory.
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Originally posted by DigiMark007W-what's wrong with Objectivism? I mean...except for nothing?
It's like Ayn Rand with voodoo rituals....so, in other words, not too great.
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As always, one could do worse, but that's like saying a bee sting is a good thing because it won't kill you. Sure, you live, but it still kinda sucks.
Originally posted by TransfinitumWell, because the whole Heaven and Hell thing might just be propaganda by the supreme fascist.
There is a simple comparison that can be made to sort all of this out. The Catholic Church and Christendom in general believes that there is a Heaven and a Hell, and attempt to strive towards paradise (heaven) rather than eternal suffering and punishment (hell). The Atheist or Agnostic does not believe in a heaven or hell, but the Satanist believes that there is a hell and knows beyond a shadow of a doubt he is going there! To eternal damnation. Also the philosophies of Satanism are so cruel as to this extent: To celebrate a "black mass" one must go to a Catholic Church, steal the consecrated host and then go and blaspheme and mutilate it. The philosophy is self-explanatory.
Originally posted by Transfinitum
There is a simple comparison that can be made to sort all of this out. The Catholic Church and Christendom in general believes that there is a Heaven and a Hell, and attempt to strive towards paradise (heaven) rather than eternal suffering and punishment (hell). The Atheist or Agnostic does not believe in a heaven or hell, but the Satanist believes that there is a hell and knows beyond a shadow of a doubt he is going there! To eternal damnation. Also the philosophies of Satanism are so cruel as to this extent: To celebrate a "black mass" one must go to a Catholic Church, steal the consecrated host and then go and blaspheme and mutilate it. The philosophy is self-explanatory.
There are many varieties of Satanic belief, ranging from religious to political. Because there is no real consensus of belief in the Satanic community, it is difficult to present one cohesive Satanic doctrine.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Which that stupid piece of shit God has created as well. Here's a tip for that fascist God *******:DO NOT CREATE EVIL!
God's ways are mysterious my ass, they are just cruel and stupid. Like the mother****er himself.
You aren't changing my mind about God at all. There are those of us who base our lives and ethics off the existence of this God...and while we can usually tolerate it when people call him things we don't like, the last thing it can do is change our minds.
Basically I'm hoping you change your persuasion tactics.
Originally posted by Bardock42
W-what's wrong with Objectivism? I mean...except for nothing?
Objectivism's great!
...in principle ( 😛 ). But impossible to determine, like any attempt at wholly objective truth.
Amusingly, Rand herself went bat-sh*t crazy toward the end of her life and created herself to be the final word on any subject. Objectivism was true, and she was its ultimate seer on any topic. Once she determined "truth" anyone within her circle of friends (almost cult-ish by the end of her life) who disagreed would be expelled.
I have slightly less problem with the ethical egoism she set up as her moral philosophy. It's not too far from some statements in the Satanic Bible, though more eloquent (she was a good writer, if nothing else). But problems with the existence of a "self," and the dualism created by setting things up as either altruistic or selfish, lead me to sour to that idea as well.
Originally posted by Quark_666Why, do you want your mind to be changed?
You aren't changing my mind about God at all. There are those of us who base our lives and ethics off the existence of this God...and while we can usually tolerate it when people call him things we don't like, the last thing it can do is change our minds.Basically I'm hoping you change your persuasion tactics.