Superman Speedblitz vs...?

Originally posted by Galan007
Yup.... From back in the pre-crisis days.

The only reason I bring up it's pre-crisis nature, is because back then, Supes was breaking the time barrier as a baby [just by moving fast]:

So does the first scan really surprise me? Nah.. 😐

Originally posted by Juntai
However after Infinite Crisis, it seems some of the Pre-Crisis stuff is back in continuity for Superman. Such with him noting that he hadn't seen the Legion of Superheros since before the 85 Crisis.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
The thread got closed before I could post this image. But someone (we won't mention any names...) said that a certain War Green Guy could see Superman coming a mile away.

You were saying? 😛

You forgot to post the subsequent scans of him getting his ass handed to him like a child by the Spectre. PC Supes was just ridiculous though in every way. Making up powers just for the moment.

Example: using Super-friction to rub the bars together in a jail cell to get out, when he could have simply bent the bars or used his heat vision.

Basically PC Superman was written that no matter what the task, in terms of strength, he could do it, unless the writer wanted him not to. So writers could make a character that was somehow stronger, just to make up an enemy, yet that character might not have any other strength feats.

But as ridiculous as all his strong showing were there are tons of low showing as well.

Originally posted by Galan007
You have that scan by any chance? I dunno if I've seen it yet.

True. But the Speedblitz also works as a signature move for Supes. It's pretty much one of his strongest physical attacks...

Originally posted by Inhuman
But as ridiculous as all his strong showing were there are tons of low showing as well.

Originally posted by Rewmac
True. But the Speedblitz also works as a signature move for Supes. It's pretty much one of his strongest physical attacks...

Originally posted by pr1983
he's broken the light barrier several times post crisis... 😑

I've seen frames of him flying from one planet to another, with no descriptive text, but not much more.

I'm just not sure that he can do it. BUT I would gladly and unashamedly accept any schooling you confer to me on the matter.

😄

Originally posted by Juntai
Well, 'speedblitz' I don't think of as a single type of attack, it's more when he just utilizes his speed and other powers to overwhelm opponents. Often enough, even admitted by Supes himself, he just absorbs blows until he figures everything out that he needs/wants-to-know, and then he just ends it.

Originally posted by Juntai
Also true, mostly because the writers of the time simply couldn't think of ways to challenge Superman. Writing a character that powerful for long periods of time probably becomes really difficult, especially when their science and knowledge of things at the time was so limited compared to what he know now. So they would make him fumble and stumble at the beginning of the arc, then bust out what he could have done from the beginning at the end of it.... But on the forum, they fight to the best of their ability though a case might be made for CIS.

I agree. Just that the board has become accustomed to just looking at a PC Superman vs. fight and automatically claiming him victor(very understandable. I do as well). I wholeheartedly agree that he had cartoonish/wacky insane powers. Pretty much anything was possible for him. But on the other hand you got him struggling with radioactive plants, mutated bears, getting turned into a monkey (not by mxy), losing his powers(this was an often ocurance & not by red sun or k-nite), female aliens, ect.
But like you said he couldnt be fighting luthor, bizaro, and mxy all the damn time. Thats why you had alot of dumb stories like lois lane grows mysteriously to giant size, or jimmy olsen is kidnapped to another dimension.

I don't have a scan but it happened in the recently concluded lightning saga arc between JLA and JSA. Also the last Action Comics Annual had a collection of stories, once of which showed Clark as a boy, with all his powers in tact, thus throwing away Byrne's post Crisis reboot.

In an interview for the latest arc of Action comics Johns said the pre crisis all superboy and the legion of superheroes are canon again.

There's also been some references to some pre crisis Superman stories since Infinite crisis. The giant golden key has been mentioned as well as that the events of for the man that has everything have been eluded to.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
I said I've never seen it. 😛

I've seen frames of him flying from one planet to another, with no descriptive text, but not much more.

I'm just not sure that he can do it. BUT I would gladly and unashamedly accept any schooling you confer to me on the matter.

😄 I coined the term, "speedblitz". 😛

Originally posted by Galvaclaw
In an interview for the latest arc of Action comics Johns said the pre crisis all superboy and the legion of superheroes are canon again.

Originally posted by Juntai
He's been doing it regularly since the mid-late 90's, but his first lightspeed type feat that I recall happened during his Exile when gravity almost pulled him into a sun, though he had to use momentum to do it. I'm fairly sure he reached lightspeed there, but it's been a while since I read it..That was 1988.

Why would he need to exceed lightspeed to do that?

I want a scan. I want hardcore, narrative description, and I want it now. Got it, Juntai? glare

Originally posted by Galvaclaw

There's also been some references to some pre crisis Superman stories since Infinite crisis. The giant golden key has been mentioned as well as that the events of for the man that has everything have been eluded to.

Originally posted by Juntai
Of course, Johns has been referencing Alan Moore for a while now, especially evident in Green Lantern, since Alan Moore wrote the prophecy in GLC Annual 2.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Why was he trying to avoid going into a sun? I thought those were good for him.

Why would he need to exceed lightspeed to do that?

I want a scan. I want hardcore, narrative description, and I want it now. Got it, Juntai? glare

However as I mentioned, his depowering has now been retconned, and navigating space is something he's done since he was a child. So it's relivence isn't really there.

Originally posted by Juntai
Back then he couldn't navigate space well, it was his first post-crisis - thus depowered- arc leaving Earth. He had a breathing aparatus and a teleporter to get around. At the time he was out of power, so he was falling into a sun, which he was sure was going to kill him, so he flew in circles really fast until he escaped it. I'm fairly sure it said he was lightspeed, but like I said, it's been a while since I read it- I probably last checked it out 5 years ago or so.

However as I mentioned, his depowering has now been retconned, and navigating space is something he's done since he was a child. So it's relivence isn't really there.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Oh. ok.

Originally posted by Rorschach
Earth to Saturn in 4 minutes