Originally posted by Air LegendI don't think it should be.
Shouldn't you be closing this since it is a comic book question?
I don't really care, but that's what you usually do...just sayin.
It's clearly asking for opinions, not a definite answer (ie. what issues did soandso appear in during Civil War)
again omniverse thing is being taken too literally remeber that the whole intent of COIE was to boil it down to one universe...through out all that time DC did not have a multiverse, only future and past timelines(in the same time stream) and different dimensions like heaven, hell, taratarus, 4th world et al...over all these years marvel has been the only company getting all worked up over all the convoluted cosmic stuff.
also it wasnt until '05 with the advent of IC that DC has started up withthier own multiverse again.and they have clearly defined that there are only 52 universes, which is a slight mis match seeing as how Wildstorm forever had its own multiverse until DC decided to intervene and f **** all that up, now the wildstorm universe is just one universe.
the point one would have to ask himslef is where the hell would marvel get off just arbitrarily including every and all other comic company into thier omniverse? i mean, who the hell died and made them omniverse designator....so that means if some regualr joe like me were to start up my own comic i would have to report to marvel for my own universal number?(i am kind of partial to 6969 BTW😄) so the way i look at it Roma could destroy a DC universe only if a story was written that way, and thats it.
otherwise why would both companies have clearly set cosmic hierachies? marvel is more science based and DC is more religious toned, and as a wildcard Wildstorm doesnt even have any cosmics...thier legends of gods and monsters are spawned from kherans and daemonites battling in front of primitave man, so why hasnt anyone took the time to acknowldge marvel..also both the canon and non canon accounts were written by marvel writers, so this is obviously marvel's baby..DC just hangs back and wait for thier share of the check to come in the mail
--end of incoherent rant
Originally posted by lando005That's kind of how I've looked at it.
i saw a definition for omnivers that says that every univers including our own is part of one single omniverse, all the anime universes, comic universes and our real world universes all exist withing the omniverse
The Ominverse also includes other fictional universes/multiverses, as well as our real-world universe (which some unification theories posit is part of a real-world multiverse).
Simple.
Originally posted by Galan007
This next scan is an excerpt from Impossible Man's bio in the 2006 OHOTMU:Whole bio:
This makes Mxy's appearance in Marvel comics, indisputably canonical...
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But to further solidify this fact,
Here are a few different scans of Impossible Man referring to Mxy, [the "interdimensional Imp"], as "Mixed Pickles":Note that in the last scan Mxy says to Surfer,
"Cosmic Powers ain't nuthin' to 5-D magic!" 😖hifty:
Originally posted by Galan007
I had the IM/Mxy scans, and knew about the bio,
but until Erik posted the bio for me in another thread, I couldn't be 100% sure.... As I didn't have the proof on hand. 😛
Well you got there in the end lol. 😛
I think the major issue is that some posters are using omniverse in place of multiverse. Thats why there was so much resistance to me saying they both exist within one omniverse.
Unless its Roma or someone we know who mainly focuses on an omniversal level, then generally in Marvel when a character says all realities or every reality they're referring to the Marvel multiverse. Anything outside the multiverse is generally not referred to or featured in Marvel comics (with the exception of Marvel created megaverses such as the New Universe)
Originally posted by GalacticStormI still think the word Omniverse is just a general term both compaines use to describe every Universe within their own company -- and that occasionally these Omniverses can intermingle to form a 'greater' 'verse...
Well you got there in the end lol. 😛I think the major issue is that some posters are using omniverse in place of multiverse. Thats why there was so much resistance to me saying they both exist within one omniverse.
Unless its Roma or someone we know who mainly focuses on an omniversal level, then generally in Marvel when a character says all realities or every reality they're referring to the Marvel multiverse. Anything outside the multiverse is generally not referred to or featured in Marvel comics (with the exception of Marvel created megaverses such as the New Universe)
But I still don't believe that every time a character uses the words "Omniverse", or "all creation", they are referring to other companies...
Just MO. 🙂
Originally posted by Galan007
I still think the word Omniverse is just a general term both compaines use to describe every Universe within their own company -- and that occasionally these Omniverses can intermingle to form a 'greater' 'verse...But I still don't believe that every time a character uses the words "Omniverse", or "all creation", they are referring to other companies...
Just MO. 🙂
Of course they're not. While they acknowledge that they exist within the same single creation of course Marvel writers when referring to omniverse aren't going to think of DC because its only through these crossovers that they're allowed to depict that point, otherwise its like the other company doesn't exist and its done solely from a Marvel perspective.
Imagine the nightmare a writer would have having to deal with multiple continuities!!
Originally posted by manjaro
well thats what i was thinking too, if only it was put in those words from the beginning, there wouldnt have been such a massive headache
Sorry i thought the point was obvious. Thats why i kept posting quotes regarding copyright and the fact that characters were only allowed to be directly referred to by name or image with the permission of the other company such as during crossovers. I just thought people would put two and two together its only after your last rant that i realised what you had an issue with lol.
Originally posted by Galan007
The other references can be debated...But the IM/Mxy stuff is incontrovertible.
The other references together with the Mxy stuff and marvunapp's comments specifically on the matter of crossovers and DC and Marvel being within the same creation definitely make the point indisputable. 😉
