Originally posted by King KandyNo, he was missing the prime multiverse.
He was everything outside of the prime multiverse.
When Beyonder entered the Multiverse,
his thoughts became the Multiverse.
Beyonder wasn't missing anything.
There's only one Prime Multiverse, (same as today)
and Beyonder was millions of times more powerful than it.
Originally posted by King KandyThanos was everything outside AND inside.
Thanos was everything withIN the Omniverse.
Originally posted by King KandyEven if Beyonder was a quintillion times more powerful, the fact remains:
Quintillion plus one>Quintillion.
I think that's what you're not understanding.
All the Cosmic power in Marvel is concentrated around the Prime Multiverse.
The Cosmic Hierarchy ONLY exists withIN the Prime Multiverse.
You're confusing yourself by thinking that there's Quintillions,
or even TWO Prime Multiverses,
when there isn't.
There's ONLY One! ... the SAME one from 1985 basically.
Originally posted by King KandyBut phrases such as "Like a drop of water to the ocean." or "Millions of times greater then the multiverse combined" imply an actual proportion,
no matter how small.
What proportions are you talking about?
You mean Infinity multiplied quintillions of times?
or Infinite power (including the LT's and everything in the Prime Multiverse)
multiplied Millions of times?
The analogy of "an Ocean to a drop of water" and "Millions of times more powerful"
is to give us some perspective on just how ridiculously powerful and grand Beyonder was,
in comparison with an Infinity of size and power (Prime Multiverse)
Originally posted by JerseyMageI remember those quotes from Secret Wars as well.
Maybe I was wrong in assuming the word infinite was used at one point
to describe the beyond realm?
The truth with proof!
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Beyonder CREATING/BECOMING the INFINITE Beyond:
"Masses form in the Void, Stars, Suns, and Planets ... LIFE Arises"
"Meeting NO resistance in the INFINITE BEYOND"
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"Evolves and Flourishes Within the New Universe,
BEGAT (brought into existence) by Beyonder's Power"
"Mortal Beings giving meaning to the INFINITY in which they dwell"
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swank
Btw. This infinity is actually an uberdiculous Multiverse:
"Beyonder, the entity that embodied all the substance of Another Multiverse"
ok giving this some thought. i think i'm more impressed with thanos than with the beyonder. he was kinda dumb. and he wasn't the god of marvel. he was the god of another place and kinda took over marvel. only becuz marvel's god didn't step in. in the end, a guy named the molecule man was able to thwart the beyonder's power to destroy everything. how can he be supreme if someone like the molecule man, a creation of marvel's god, was able to stop his plan? marvel's god created a being that was able to divert the power of the beyonder. by that alone, marvel's god>>>>>>>>>>>>>moleculeman. also, the beyonder never fought the lt, and if marvel's god had said, i'm going to give you the power to beat this beyonder, it would have happened. why? becuz in actuality, marvel's god, is the creator of even the beyonder. now, according to what i gather from the end saga, thanos with the heart was given the power of marvel's god, by god himself, by being used as a puppet. in actuality, thanos, even tho he was on paper, was in fact the chosen avatar of marvel's god. this would make him supreme to the classic beyonder as the classic beyonder was not a chosen avatar. he couldn't have been becuz he did not possess marvel's universe. it was not his creation. so i change my opinion. thanos with the heart wins this.
Originally posted by fangirl101ok giving this some thought.
i think i'm more impressed with thanos than with the beyonder.
Originally posted by fangirl101he was kinda dumb.[/B]
That means that everyone in the Multiverse now is dumb.
Originally posted by fangirl101and he wasn't the god of marvel.
he was the god of another place and kinda took over marvel.
Originally posted by fangirl101only becuz marvel's god didn't step in.
Where is this stated and/or depicted.
Originally posted by fangirl101in the end,
a guy named the molecule man was able to thwart the beyonder's power to destroy everything.
how can he be supreme if someone like the molecule man,
a creation of marvel's god, was able to stop his plan?
marvel's god created a being that was able to divert the power of the beyonder. by that alone, marvel's god>>>>>>>>>>>>>moleculeman.
I was one of the most adamant supporters of this mis-information.
Until we later learned that Beyonder allowed MM to re-direct his power into the Beyond realm.
Beyonder just wanted to leave the Multiverse,
and he chose this method to do so.
So in the end,
MM did not thwart anything, unless Beyonder willed it.
Originally posted by fangirl101also, the beyonder never fought the LT
The LT was afraid of the Beyonder, Desperate in FACT:
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When Uatu gathered the Cosmic Hierarchy (the LT included)
the In-Betweener says about Mephisto,
"Surely this is his day of last resorts ... he is desperate ... AS ARE WE"
I believe "WE" included the LT ✅ (who is there)
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After Beyonder erased Death from the Multiverse,
the Hierarchy (including the LT) accepts their fate,
then the MM shows up and they all step aside: (as if salvation arrived)
LOL!
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Even more EMBARRASSING,
the Living Tribunal and the hierarchy literally,
were quaking in their pants at the thought of what Beyonder would do,
if Eternity failed,
when Eternity actually mustered some courage to attempt an attack:
"The Mighty of the MULTIVERSE[i] (the LT included) [i]TREMBLE"
😆 (who has ever made the LT tremble? Or heck, show any fear at all?)
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Originally posted by fangirl101and if marvel's god had said,
i'm going to give you the power to beat this beyonder, it would have happened. why? becuz in actuality, marvel's god, is the creator of even the beyonder.
... "why are you taking over my drop of water,
when you have an ocean?" ...
Originally posted by fangirl101now, according to what i gather from the end saga, thanos with the heart was given the power of marvel's god, by god himself, by being used as a puppet. in actuality, thanos, even tho he was on paper, was in fact the chosen avatar of marvel's god. this would make him supreme to the classic beyonder as the classic beyonder was not a chosen avatar. he couldn't have been becuz he did not possess marvel's universe. it was not his creation.
classic Beyonder = Supreme Being.
Stalemate.
btw. You claim that God chose Thanos as his personal avatar,
not true but,
Beyonder was indeed stated to be "GOD before Genesis"
========= "GOD before Genesis" ===========
By Jim Shooter himself (Editor in-Chief of Marvel at the time, Writer/Creator of Secret Wars)
Originally posted by fangirl101so i change my opinion. thanos with the heart wins this.
Originally posted by Galan007
Question.Since all the universes of the Marvel multiverse exist on the same physical space, separated only by vibrational frequency. If one unleashed the power to destroy a single universe, but said attack threw out multiple vibrational frequencies, wouldn't that attack destroy multiple universes?
Hope that made sense.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Cool, all honest opinions (unsupported or not) are respected.And yet,
he was the only being all the infinite prime Multiverse that figure out how to re-create Death.That means that everyone in the Multiverse now is dumb.
Beyonder was the God of the Beyond Realm when he was there,
and he was the God of the Multiverse when he was there.Really?
Where is this stated and/or depicted.
🙂 This is all inconsequential.
I was one of the most adamant supporters of this mis-information.
Until we later learned that Beyonder allowed MM to re-direct his power into the Beyond realm.
Beyonder just wanted to leave the Multiverse,
and he chose this method to do so.So in the end,
MM did not thwart anything, unless Beyonder willed it.....................................................................
The LT was afraid of the Beyonder, Desperate in FACT:
....................................................................
When Uatu gathered the Cosmic Hierarchy (the LT included)
the In-Betweener says about Mephisto,
"Surely this is his day of last resorts ... [B]he is desperate ... AS ARE WE
"I believe "WE" included the LT ✅ (who is there)
................................................................................................
After Beyonder erased Death from the Multiverse,
the Hierarchy (including the LT) accepts their fate,then the MM shows up and they all step aside: (as if salvation arrived)
LOL!
................................................................................................Even more EMBARRASSING,
the Living Tribunal and the hierarchy literally,
were quaking in their pants at the thought of what Beyonder would do,
if Eternity failed,
when Eternity actually mustered some courage to attempt an attack:"The Mighty of the MULTIVERSE[i] (the LT included) [i]TREMBLE"
😆 (who has ever made the LT tremble? Or heck, show any fear at all?)
................................................................................................Marvel's god would've asked,
... "why are you taking over my drop of water,
when you have an ocean?" ...THOTI = Supreme Being.
classic Beyonder = Supreme Being.
Stalemate.
btw. You claim that God chose Thanos as his personal avatar,
not true but,
Beyonder was indeed stated to be "GOD before Genesis"========= "GOD before Genesis" ===========
By Jim Shooter himself (Editor in-Chief of Marvel at the time, Writer/Creator of Secret Wars)
An opinion fo sho. [/B]
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33And?
What Thanos did with the heart that you believe trumps anything PR Beyonder did. Remembering Beyonder was collapsing whole Universes because he was thinking too hard.and GO!
Thanos effortlessly destroyed Celestials,beat the Lt,Eternity,Infinity,and the rest of this force that was assembled to defeat Thanos. Thanos wasnt even exerting himself. Thanos has more impressive battle feats.
