Comic Book Mythbuster

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Because the bomb is apparently only effective when it blows up itself.

Also, did you really just say they need to be in the proper space-time continuum? Scan please?

You know what, as usual agree to disagree. I'm going to the office now.

I don't want to close this thread down but this starting to get out of hand.

Abhi I'm talking to you as well since you have a habit of ignoring mods.

Tbh I think abhi should take a break posting in this thread all together until he can:
a.) start reading the scans he posts in their entirety.
b.) admit when he's made a mistake.

Simple changes like those would make this thread much more enjoyable. IMHO.

Originally posted by abhilegend
If the bomb itself was so powerful then why didn't it destroyed 1/5th of the universe when Photon and surfer blew it up?

well, if a nuke is blown up in a silo by say, a regular missile, the nuke doesn't detonate, so.....not sure why it's a big deal that it didn't have its full affects when it was actively destroyed. i need unconfusing too.

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Damnit I come to this thread every now and then to get a few laughs. Come on guys, keep busting each others busts 😱

Originally posted by dmills
Damnit I come to this thread every now and then to get a few laughs. Come on guys, keep busting each others busts 😱

It is hilarious, admittedly, for all the wrong reasons.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
It is hilarious, admittedly, for all the wrong reasons.

If anything it's a fun distraction. The reality of the medium means that if a person really wanted to, they could obfuscate a large majority of feats, and nothing stymies a debate like spending an inordinate amount of time arguing about the minutia of every feat.

Writers don't write this stuff for battleboard purposes so they aren't up at night saying, "shit, I'd better make this REALLY phucking clear that Hulk was sacrificing himself to Zeus during their fight because those fans on KMC are going to be arguing over this shit" or some such. They write it they way that they want to write it, pass it off to an editor who edits it and then it's off to the printing press and then on to the next issue.

Perhaps in retrospect they would change some things for the sake of clarity, but for the most part I'm pretty sure that they don't lose much sleep over what we think.

Some of the feats presented by some some posters lack context, are blown out of proportion or just plain miss read.

I have seen plenty of people in here and other forums convinently or by error bringing up those feats as means to win a debate.

People claiming that hulk survived the gravitational pull of a black hole, wonder woman entering the speed force and so on. To me and that is of course my opinion or how I interpreted a feat, the chronal dislocation of Thor with the life bomb is, pretty much explained on how his chronal dislocation works, but often exagerated as if it where something else.

Context is very important.

Originally posted by dmills
If anything it's a fun distraction. The reality of the medium means that if a person really wanted to, they could obfuscate a large majority of feats, and nothing stymies a debate like spending an inordinate amount of time arguing about the minutia of every feat.

Writers don't write this stuff for battleboard purposes so they aren't up at night saying, "shit, I'd better make this REALLY phucking clear that Hulk was sacrificing himself to Zeus during their fight because those fans on KMC are going to be arguing over this shit" or some such. They write it they way that they want to write it, pass it off to an editor who edits it and then it's off to the printing press and then on to the next issue.

Perhaps in retrospect they would change some things for the sake of clarity, but for the most part I'm pretty sure that they don't lose much sleep over what we think.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
I agree with this. Part of the reason also that why writers like Hickman tend to troll fans when continuously harassed on clarifying a particular scene that would only be relevant in a battleboard discussion.

I once asked Dan Abnett something along those lines. His response was [paraphrasing here] that though he personally cares about what fans think, as a writer he can't be a slave to every whim of his readership. When writing high magnitude feats he tries to make the scene as clear as reasonably possible for the reader, but the reality is that sometimes it works out, but a lot of the time it doesn't. More often then not when the material is released and they read it as a complete product, they often see things that they wish they could do over again. Sometimes it's simply a limitation in the nature of the medium (2d) where things like scale/perspective can be an issue or sometimes an editor will implement changes against the wishes of the writer which may contribute to muddying the waters. But basically, not every scene will be wrapped up in a pink bow for us.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Some of the feats presented by some some posters lack context, are blown out of proportion or just plain miss read.

I have seen plenty of people in here and other forums convinently or by error bringing up those feats as means to win a debate.

People claiming that hulk survived the gravitational pull of a black hole, wonder woman entering the speed force and so on. To me and that is of course my opinion or how I interpreted a feat, the chronal dislocation of Thor with the life bomb is, pretty much explained on how his chronal dislocation works, but often exagerated as if it where something else.

Context is very important.

In our case here, for battle board purposes, I see your point and it's a valid one. That said, there are also people who purposely muddy the waters and try to make interpreting a feat more difficult then it needs to be. And let's not kid ourselves, some of us are pretty phucking selective with regard to which "myths" we want to "bust".

Originally posted by dmills
And let's not kid ourselves, some of us are pretty phucking selective with regard to which "myths" we want to "bust".

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Originally posted by dmills
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In our case here, for battle board purposes, I see your point and it's a valid one. That said, there are also people who purposely muddy the waters and try to make interpreting a feat more difficult then it needs to be. And let's not kid ourselves, some of us are pretty phucking selective with regard to which "myths" we want to "bust".

I think myth busting can be easily handled with some judges around.

It will make it pretty interesting.

Just like the show.

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Originally posted by Rao Kal El
I think myth busting can be easily handled with some judges around.

It will make it pretty interesting.

Just like the show.

Good Idea.

We would need the most neutral and non-biased posters on this site to be judges. The type of people that never low-ball other characters, and never ignore or twist context. We need judges that operate purely on rationality and evidence, and are not clouded by their own fanboy biases. In short, we need judges that embody neutrality, balance, and non-bias. I think it's obvious which posters embody these values.

I vote for you, abhilegend, and Philosphia to be the judges.

Originally posted by vince_slice
Good Idea.

We would need the most neutral and non-biased posters on this site to be judges. The type of people that never low-ball other characters, and never ignore or twist context. We need judges that operate purely on rationality and evidence, and are not clouded by their own fanboy biases. In short, we need judges that embody neutrality, balance, and non-bias. I think it's obvious which posters embody these values.

I vote for you, abhilegend, and Philosphia to be the judges.

Is obvious you might have some issues with me. I honestly don't give a phuk if you think I am biased or not. I have never debated with you and maybe you disagree with the scans I present, how ever if you do, you should just say it on the respective thread, instead of using your cheap shots techniques.

I think Leo, Cogito are pretty neutral. And I think that if you are going to try to snipe and cheap shot around, then I believe you should not be, because apparently you have issues. And Honestly, I have seen more scans contributions from abhi and philo than yourself, so just let the butt hurt pain go away and enjoy the ride.

vince_slice the idea of judges isn't a bad one considering the nature of the medium and bias that can exist on all the sides.

But please keep the snide remarks and insults out of the thread. They don't help anything.

If this judges is going to be seriously entertained by the mods, I'll go ahead and give my vote to Galan007, Nibedicus, and JaketheBank.

I'd vote for Eel O Brian, KM and MF Delph.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
If this judges is going to be seriously entertained by the mods, I'll go ahead and give my vote to Galan007, Nibedicus, and JaketheBank.

I mean we would need a group of people willing to do it, with the time to do it, and judges people could agree upon.

But it is a feasible idea and one I'm willing to give a shot if it helps keep some of the pettiness out of the thread.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Is obvious you might have some issues with me. I honestly don't give a phuk if you think I am biased or not. I have never debated with you and maybe you disagree with the scans I present, how ever if you do, you should just say it on the respective thread, instead of using your cheap shots techniques.

I think Leo, Cogito are pretty neutral. And I think that if you are going to try to snipe and cheap shot around, then I believe you should not be, because apparently you have issues. And Honestly, I have seen more scans contributions from abhi and philo than yourself, so just let the butt hurt pain go away and enjoy the ride.

I have no issues, just airing your dirty laundry. When you have entire photobucket albums dedicated to low showings of rival characters, I'll start questionning your integrity.

You have an impressive collection biensalsa:

Hulk limits?
http://s647.photobucket.com/user/biensalsa/library/Marvel%20Comics/Hulks%20limits?sort=3&page=1

Surfer limits?
http://s647.photobucket.com/user/biensalsa/library/Marvel%20Comics/Silver%20Surfer%20LIMITS?sort=3&page=1

Thor limits?
http://s647.photobucket.com/user/biensalsa/library/Marvel%20Comics/Thors%20limits?sort=3&page=1

Thanos limits?
s647.photobucket.com/user/biensalsa/library/Marvel%20Comics/Thanos%20limits?sort=3&page=1

I wonder what other low showings of characters you've collected.