Originally posted by Thorion
It's not his. He has no influence over it. When he died the UN was unaffected. Mjolnir, however is Thor's weapon. He's it's protector and guardian, but he has no special relationship with it.
So a weapon has to be "affected" when the wielder dies, in order to be his?
I also don't understand your last sentence...
Originally posted by draxx_tOfU
So a weapon has to be "affected" when the wielder dies, in order to be his?I also don't understand your last sentence...
😉 I'm referring to the misconception that the UN is solely Galactus' He's It's current wielder. That is all. While Thor has a special relationship with Mjolnir. It's his. It was made only for him.
Originally posted by Thorion
😉 I'm referring to the misconception that the UN is solely Galactus' He's It's current wielder. That is all. While Thor has a special relationship with Mjolnir. It's his. It was made only for him.
made for him or not, G has the UN, simple as that...
just because it wasn't made for him does not mean he can't use it...
was the soul gem made for Adam? was the eye of Agamotto made for Stephen?
anyway, besides, honestly, he doesn't even need it to stomp Thor...
Originally posted by draxx_tOfU
made for him or not, G has the UN, simple as that...just because it wasn't made for him does not mean he can't use it...
was the soul gem made for Adam? was the eye of Agamotto made for Stephen?
anyway, besides, honestly, he doesn't even need it to stomp Thor...
I never said that he couldn't use it 😉 I still think RLT wins. It comes down to feats and featswise he's superior. He's got all the high showing of Galactus and none of the low showings.
Originally posted by Thorion
I never said that he couldn't use it 😉 I still think RLT wins. It comes down to feats and featswise he's superior. He's got all the high showing of Galactus and none of the low showings.
are you referring to whatssatnameagain " Those Who Sit Above The Shadow" as a high feat?
for a group whom some compared to celestials, all they could do was yell, " NOOOOOOOOOOOO"...
lol...
forum rules = G ftw 10/10
Originally posted by draxx_tOfU
are you referring to whatssatnameagain " Those Who Sit Above The Shadow" as a high feat?for a group whom some compared to celestials, all they could do was yell, " NOOOOOOOOOOOO"...
lol...
forum rules = G ftw 10/10
Because RLT was that far above 'em 😉 So forum rules discount feats altogether?
Originally posted by Utrigita
✅ 😄You know as well as I do that the Galactus that have been encounteret by Thor until this point is one that was so depleted in power that he had to resort to using tech 😛
Yes.
It sure does, IMO Galactus vs Tiamut, Galactus normal powerlevels, Galactus wins a single Celestial more any celestial and Galactus wouldn't win.
Arishem and Exitar against Galactus normal Powerlevels tough to gauge but a small victory for Galactus but this battle he can just as easily lose as he can win it
(disregarding Hyperspace energy manipulation completely)
Good points as always 🙂
"Doth challenge mine own" Odin about Galactus. Most of us agreed in the Odin/Galactus threads, if Big G is weak, he loses
I know, Galactus will beat a Celestial for u. And as stated before, I respect that in the highest
U and I both know why I chose Tiamut over Galactus
Arishem or Exitar vs Big G is a battle as well
As a Celestials fan, ur a Galactus fan, we both agree billions of Celestials>Galactus
Originally posted by Thorion
It's not his. He has no influence over it. When he died the UN was unaffected. Mjolnir, however is Thor's weapon. He's it's protector and guardian, but he has no special relationship with it.
Galactus easily reclaimed the nullifier from abraxas. We all know abraxas>>>galactus, but when galactus reclaimed the nullifier, abraxas was shocked, and failed to regain possession of the UN for the rest of his existence as a comic character. No character has demonstrated the same ability to effortlessly bring the nullifier to his person, as Galactus has. There's also no character who has demonstrated the same amount of precision and control of the UN as Galactus. Silver Surfer, Thanos, Sue Storm, Reed Richards, Morg, Uatu, have all stated on panel as referencing the Ultimate Nullifier as "in his [galactus'] possession" or "he keeps it aboard his ship." Whether there's an intrinsic personal relation or not bet. Galactus and the UN is rendered moot by the amount of control, external and otherwise, Galactus has demonstrated over the UN, as well as the UN always being associated with Galactus nearly everytime the UN (the real UN, not a fake or replica imitation) makes an appearance.
We should also note that when Galactus died...the UN had to be found during the abraxas saga.
Originally posted by Thorion
Zeus stalemated Thor. Marvel Vishnu has no on-panel feats..Odin is the be all end all skyfather. I'd certainly say that RLT is equal to Atum and Set who controls multiple realities.
Zeus defeated Thor, he catched his hammer beat him down and saw what Thor was fighting for so he stopped the fight. Thor had absolutly no chance in this fight i have the comic and saw the scans here, where someone left one page out......
I talk about normal Thor who fought Zeus.
Didn't the Celestials create the Asgardians? Isn't one single Celestial more powerful then an entire Pantheon? Is Galactus not almost on Celestial level when mod fed? I don't see even 1/1000 for RLT without PIS.
Arishem was goin to seal off their homes. Odin, Zeus and Vishnu bowed to Arishem and vowed not to interfere in Celestial judgment. Odin then took all the life forces except Thor into the Destroyer to combat the Celestial host. Celestials easily defeated Odin/Destroyer and the Uni Mind
Celestials>Asgardians ✅ 🙂
Normally I just lurk around on this board, you guys are pretty solid as far as being sources of info on certain characters and such and in many threads I enjoy reading your debates, but this thread for whatever reason has pulled me out of the depths....perhaps its the appearance of strangely familiar, exactingly familiar, arguments to some that I have made. 😎
Originally posted by Tenebrous
Galactus easily reclaimed the nullifier from abraxas. We all know abraxas>>>galactus, but when galactus reclaimed the nullifier, abraxas was shocked, and failed to regain possession of the UN for the rest of his existence as a comic character. No character has demonstrated the same ability to effortlessly bring the nullifier to his person, as Galactus has. There's also no character who has demonstrated the same amount of precision and control of the UN as Galactus. Silver Surfer, Thanos, Sue Storm, Reed Richards, Morg, Uatu, have all stated on panel as referencing the Ultimate Nullifier as "in his [galactus'] possession" or "he keeps it aboard his ship." Whether there's an intrinsic personal relation or not bet. Galactus and the UN is rendered moot by the amount of control, external and otherwise, Galactus has demonstrated over the UN, as well as the UN always being associated with Galactus nearly everytime the UN (the real UN, not a fake or replica imitation) makes an appearance.We should also note that when Galactus died...the UN had to be found during the abraxas saga.
On this incident. I have to say that the whole Galactus summoning the UN smacks of PIS.
Has anyone here actually read Galactus first appearance? For what Galactus did in the Abraxus Saga to represent some ability of Galactus to summon the UN, would totally invalidate the means of victory for the FF in the Galactus trilogy.
This inconsistency seriously needs to be resolved, although these days Marvel's mantra seems to be "its magic, we don't have to explain it"... anyway...
Galactus is a powerful entity, but only full power Galactus, a being who by definition would have consumed all of Eternity, can be said to be Abstract level.
We know that classic Thor is powerful enough to strike a potentially mortal wound against Galactus.
RLT is orders of magnitude beyond even Odin in power, Odin who has busted galaxies, almost consumed a whole universe, and has had a multiverse damaging battle.
When RLT came to Surtur, Surtur rather nonchalantly stated that RLT could kill him. This is a being that Odin, Loki and Thor all at once have had trouble with.
As to Odin's battle with the Celestial Host, I don't think that Odin could defeat all of them, but one on one, he would defeat a normal Celestial. Its also patently obvious that Odin could not go all out in that battle, as blowing the Milky Way apart to drive the Celestials off of the Earth would be contradictory.
RLT should take a solid 8/10 from Galactus presuming a middling strength Galactus.
Originally posted by thtadthtshldntb
On this incident. I have to say that the whole Galactus summoning the UN smacks of PIS.Has anyone here actually read Galactus first appearance? For what Galactus did in the Abraxus Saga to represent some ability of Galactus to summon the UN, would totally invalidate the means of victory for the FF in the Galactus trilogy.
This inconsistency seriously needs to be resolved, although these days Marvel's mantra seems to be "its magic, we don't have to explain it"... anyway...
It's been made cannon now. So no. It's not his regular tech so he can't use it.
Originally posted by thtadthtshldntb
Galactus is a powerful entity, but only full power Galactus, a being who by definition would have consumed all of Eternity, can be said to be Abstract level.We know that classic Thor is powerful enough to strike a potentially mortal wound against Galactus.
Galactus is abstract level at default. Eternity is one of the stronger Abstracts.
ALSO Galactus jobs alot and was very weak back then.
PLEASE people stop ignoring how he is the most present abstract and must job.
Originally posted by thtadthtshldntb
As to Odin's battle with the Celestial Host, I don't think that Odin could defeat all of them, but one on one, he would defeat a normal Celestial. Its also patently obvious that Odin could not go all out in that battle, as blowing the Milky Way apart to drive the Celestials off of the Earth would be contradictory.
What are you talking about. He couldn't even get the Celestial to notice him. He was with other Skyfathers by the way.
Originally posted by thtadthtshldntb
RLT is orders of magnitude beyond even Odin in power, Odin who has busted galaxies, almost consumed a whole universe, and has had a multiverse damaging battle.
Consumed Universe with the shard of infinity
Odin busted Galaxies yet Galactus destroyed them when fighting with a being around his level.
A multiverse damaging battle recks any feat in the entire fuggin thread. It destroys abstract level feats 😘 .
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