Originally posted by Thorion
I never said that he couldn't use it 😉 I still think RLT wins. It comes down to feats and featswise he's superior. He's got all the high showing of Galactus and none of the low showings.
And just for how long was RLT around in the comics??? For many years like Galactus???
Originally posted by thtadthtshldntb
On this incident. I have to say that the whole Galactus summoning the UN smacks of PIS.
It smells more like a retcon to me...
Has anyone here actually read Galactus first appearance? For what Galactus did in the Abraxus Saga to represent some ability of Galactus to summon the UN, would totally invalidate the means of victory for the FF in the Galactus trilogy.
Again possible retcon because in the Tyrant incident we know that Galactus was trying to disassemble the UN but couldn't find the energy to do so, I smell more PIS in that first illustration then I do in the latest issues which clearly shows that Galactus has a high command over the UN.
This inconsistency seriously needs to be resolved, although these days Marvel's mantra seems to be "its magic, we don't have to explain it"... anyway...
Well they don't have to 😛
Galactus is a powerful entity, but only full power Galactus, a being who by definition would have consumed all of Eternity, can be said to be Abstract level.
Really since when Galactus has always been a merging between a Mortal and a Abstract, and is there a certain level of power one have to be consideret a Abstract, The
We know that classic Thor is powerful enough to strike a potentially mortal wound against Galactus.
A Galactus that was so weak that he had to resort to tech, and in the same Act (if we are thinking on the same incident) then Thor had to channel such a level of the Odinforce against Galactus that he couldn't even hold Mjolner and then directed his attack against a Galactus that wasn't prepared wow great work.
RLT is orders of magnitude beyond even Odin in power, Odin who has busted galaxies, almost consumed a whole universe, and has had a multiverse damaging battle.
Not denying the busted Galaxies but as mentioned the Consume universe part has been retconned, And Odin never damaged the multiverse in his battle with Seth, he destroyed death Galaxies that was located in the prime 616 universe and was tearing in the fabric of the multiverse, I can tear at the corner of a carpet thus I'm tearing in the fabric that makes up the carpet but that doesn't mean I'm tearing at the entire Carpet.
When RLT came to Surtur, Surtur rather nonchalantly stated that RLT could kill him. This is a being that Odin, Loki and Thor all at once have had trouble with.
Impressive, Galactus defeated the Proimael Gods beings that rival the Celestials in power in theory.
As to Odin's battle with the Celestial Host, I don't think that Odin could defeat all of them, but one on one, he would defeat a normal Celestial. Its also patently obvious that Odin could not go all out in that battle, as blowing the Milky Way apart to drive the Celestials off of the Earth would be contradictory.
No chance that Odin would defeat a single Celestial his greatest creation the Destroyer would get owned by a single Celestial. And I think in that act Odin attacked with all the strenght he could muster he along with his fellow styfathers was angry because of the celestials seeing themselves as having a course far beyond what concerned the Skyfathers and they where humbled.
RLT should take a solid 8/10 from Galactus presuming a middling strength Galactus.
Galactus ftw IMO. 🙂
Originally posted by guy222Good post. Finally someone...31
Good pointsAbout the UN, Galactus actually feared it when Uatu sent Human Torch to retrieve it
In regards to Odin defeating a Celestial. Won't happen. Celestials are way above Asgardians. Arishem could've easily killed Odin, Zeus and Vishnu. If not for Gaea, Thor would've perished also
Originally posted by Utrigita
It smells more like a retcon to me...Again possible retcon because in the Tyrant incident we know that Galactus was trying to disassemble the UN but couldn't find the energy to do so, I smell more PIS in that first illustration then I do in the latest issues which clearly shows that Galactus has a high command over the UN.
Well they don't have to 😛
Really since when Galactus has always been a merging between a Mortal and a Abstract, and is there a certain level of power one have to be consideret a Abstract, The
A Galactus that was so weak that he had to resort to tech, and in the same Act (if we are thinking on the same incident) then Thor had to channel such a level of the Odinforce against Galactus that he couldn't even hold Mjolner and then directed his attack against a Galactus that wasn't prepared wow great work.
Not denying the busted Galaxies but as mentioned the Consume universe part has been retconned, And Odin never damaged the multiverse in his battle with Seth, he destroyed death Galaxies that was located in the prime 616 universe and was tearing in the fabric of the multiverse, I can tear at the corner of a carpet thus I'm tearing in the fabric that makes up the carpet but that doesn't mean I'm tearing at the entire Carpet.
Impressive, Galactus defeated the Proimael Gods beings that rival the Celestials in power in theory.
No chance that Odin would defeat a single Celestial his greatest creation the Destroyer would get owned by a single Celestial. And I think in that act Odin attacked with all the strenght he could muster he along with his fellow styfathers was angry because of the celestials seeing themselves as having a course far beyond what concerned the Skyfathers and they where humbled.
Galactus ftw IMO. 🙂
Hey Good Buddy
Galactus defeated the Proemial Gods. One looks like a Watcher, the other a Celestial. When Lord Annihilus sundered the Kyln, Tenebrous and Aegis were freed and they got revenge on Galactus. Both equal in power to Galactus
None of us can say how they compare to the legendary Celestials 🙂
Originally posted by guy222
Hey Good BuddyGalactus defeated the Proemial Gods. One looks like a Watcher, the other a Celestial. When Lord Annihilus sundered the Kyln, Tenebrous and Aegis were freed and they got revenge on Galactus. Both equal in power to Galactus
None of us can say how they compare to the legendary Celestials 🙂
Hey Good Friend 😄
We know more then they looked like a Watcher and A Celestial, We know that both Races where created by Eternity, hence I find it very likely that the Celestials is some sort of offspring from the Proimael God Brio.
They got revenge on a hungry Galactus friend that wasn't prepared for there attack 😛
IMO they would Equal them, also we know that 616 Galactus is superior to all other versions of Galactus since he is the first among them, and a alternate version of Galactus slew three Celestials under his own power, Celestials that dropped the entire asgardien Race like Flies. 😄
Franklin Richards was Galactus in Earth X 😉
The same Frankie Richards who equals a Celestial and is held in esteem by Ashema the Listener
Celestial Host humbled Odin/Destroyer
Thor used a Godblast against Galactus turned him away. That same Godblast augmented because Thor wore his Belt of Strength had no effect on Arishem
Originally posted by guy222
Franklin Richards was Galactus in Earth X 😉The same Frankie Richards who equals a Celestial and is held in esteem by Ashema the Listener
Celestial Host humbled Odin/Destroyer
Thor used a Godblast against Galactus turned him away. That same Godblast augmented because Thor wore his Belt of Strength had no effect on Arishem
It still doesn't change that fact that Galactus 616 > All others 😛
He is held in great estime surely but powerful enough to on his own kill a Celestial hmmm, I'm not sure hence only his transformation in earth X gave him the powerboost to do so IMO.
They did that indeed.
A weak Galactus Guy a weak Galactus, lets make a durability check,
Exitar gets hammered by Thor and it makes a crack in Exitars armor
Galactus gets hammered by Beta Ray Bill and leaves a even smaller crack and in that act his hammer blows and his flight had destroyed planets he combines it and still a small crack 😛