Originally posted by OneDumbG0
"all I ever thought."Wild Shadow: Here are my thoughts on that. I don't think he's being genuine about all these arguments over Carnage not being run over by a subway train. He said as much, right? Plainly. I definitely did not want to get accused of straw-manning. Lord knows there's been enough accusations on that. I just needed to be guaran-damn-teed sure of what jinzin was saying. So here: Ok. So that's all he "ever thought?" This position isn't a convenient argument to make now that his own arguments are threatened by this particular feat? He never switched or flip-flopped or thought otherwise? Then why did he say this in an earlier and different thread: I feel it's clear that Carnage gets run over by the subway train. jinzin essentially stated as much once a few moons ago. He is a self-professed symbiote comics reader. But now he's changed his mind. Even though he professed to represent that Carnage wasn't really run over by it and that'sjinzin: Bottom-line is, I don't believe you're being genuine. I think your argument here is particularly self-serving (especially in light of your eagerness to rely on Sabretooth growing a new body from a itty bitty piece of flesh that we don't even see). I'll continue arguing other issues with you, but frankly, you plainly lied on this matter.
WOW.... dude... this is exactly what I've been talking about. You try to argue using semantics to your advantage instead of taking things at face value as they were originally intended....
Clearly in that comic there's a train that hits/runs over Carnage. But as stated... by shadow...
"its not so much being run over.. since he was clearly hit and forced underneath the train... it is his assumption that he continued to be injured squashed and mutilated underneath the train and its small space which i highly doubt.. the wheels obviously cant slice and dice him since they are on the track. "
I mean what else is one supposed to call that? What should I have said?
"Venom forced Carnage underneath a train that caused Carnage pain but didn't really run him over literally wheel by wheel along his head forcing him to heal catastrophic damage and was instead a plot device used to end the fight thereby moving the story on and helping Carnage escape to the next chapter of the etc etc etc"....
It's easier to have said he was run over by the train because it's a general and universally accepted term to summarize what happened there... Either way at no point am I lending credit to your argument making some assertion that the symbiote had to heal significant damage in a way that supports your case... Like I said I can appreciate you trying to manipulate things and twist words in this thread again but it's just not working. 😕