Originally posted by Alfheim
....damn.....dunno what to say really.
Well this version of Big G was a pacifist though, but still this version of Surfer was blasting holes in him, one-shotting the Shi-ar imperial guard like nothing, etc.. Basically the only way he lost was from Sabretooth getting amped up tremendously by Galactus and killing this version of Surfer. So in other words, plot device was the only way for him to go down, nobody in that universe was able to stand against him.
It may be so that the alternate universes have weaker versions of Earth's heroes, this is true, but still - killing every hero on Marvel Earth and then blowing up the planet says a lot to his power level. It was clearly beyond MU-616's Surfer by a fairly large margin, and this version was extremely ruthless. The attitude alone would make a difference in battle.
Originally posted by Alfheim
waitwaitwaitwaitwait.....I dont get it? Did he say what I think he just said? Is he joking.....am I confused.?
This alternate universe had Galactus as a restorer of worlds, he was going to planet ravaged by a cosmic blight and restoring life to them.
The reason Surfer was attacking him was to try and steal his power so that he could restore his homeworld, which was destroyed by technology that he had developed as a military scientist. Galactus refused to restore Surfers' world (since Galactus of that universe was only restoring worlds that had died from the cosmic blight, not man-made disaster), so Surfer went after him to try and steal his power.
I know.
I have the comics.
I just don't find either impressive, we have no idea how strong this Gladiator was, nor we know if the Surfer actually fought every hero on Earth. All we know is that he killed some random Imperial guardians + ronan, both whom are without feats. When the Surfer fought someone else with the power cosmic, he lost.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Ok that does explain a bit but if he can pawn Glads like that Exiles Surfer is at least Thanos/Tyrant level.Eventhough this guy was a pacifist he must have been still pretty powerful. Pacifist as in only attacks in self-defence?
Eeeh?...
He never fought anyone from the 616 verse, but lost to Sabretooth with the PC. How can you gauge his power like that?
Originally posted by Alfheim
I dunno man I think we copuld guess how powerful Glads was....I mean hell he looked like 616 Glads and had the same powers.......
Proof that they had the same powers.
Originally posted by llagrok
Eeeh?...He never fought anyone from the 616 verse, but lost to Sabretooth with the PC. How can you gauge his power like that?
No but why would Glads be any different from 616 version. Magento and Wolverine in Exiles didnt seem that much different but they were both evil.
Originally posted by llagrok
Proof that they had the same powers.
Well for startes he was flying around in space and he said something like "when im confident I cant be beaten.", that implies his powers are still confidence based.
Thor may be as powerful as the Surfer. Or, potentially have access to more power than Surfer, but it has to be through creative means.
He has to find ways of tapping it through Mjolnir, or other magics, etc.
Surfer has constant access to his power, which is the universe-filling power cosmic. He has a direct channel to his power, and the only thing that has ever held Surfer back was himself, his conscience and his unwillingness to hurt his opponents.
All out, Power to power, Surfer should win.
If he tries to go strictly h2h, SMP may be able to manhandle Surfer.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Ok that does explain a bit but if he can pawn Glads like that Exiles Surfer is at least Thanos/Tyrant level.Eventhough this guy was a pacifist he must have been still pretty powerful. Pacifist as in only attacks in self-defence?
Yeah basically this Galactus was a pacifist. He was the opposite of 616-Galactus, instead of eating planets he restored life to planets.
As for Exiles Surfer, picture Surfer with a power level along the lines of Thanos, and make him totally ruthless, replace peaceful scientist knowledge with military scientist and combat training, and give him a surfboard that's a razoblade and you have the Exiles version of Surfer.
Killing off planet Earth along with all of it's superpowered inhabitants is a good feat no matter what universe you are in, and standing toe to toe with Galactus and winning is also a good feat, no matter which version of him it is. One-shotting Gladiator who looked to have the exact same powerset as 616-Gladiator is a major feat no matter what universe you are in. The reason why writers put these events in there is for a frame of reference so you can see how powerful the character is.
Alf: You clearly haven't read any Exiles comics....
You couldn't tell that a lot of characters were completely different? Unless you have some actual proof, you can't walk around saying they're as tough as their 616 counterparts.
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Originally posted by Kutulu
Yeah basically this Galactus was a pacifist. He was the opposite of 616-Galactus, instead of eating planets he restored life to planets.As for Exiles Surfer, picture Surfer with a power level along the lines of Thanos, and make him totally ruthless, replace peaceful scientist knowledge with military scientist and combat training, and give him a surfboard that's a razoblade and you have the Exiles version of Surfer.
Killing off planet Earth along with all of it's superpowered inhabitants is a good feat no matter what universe you are in, and standing toe to toe with Galactus and winning is also a good feat, no matter which version of him it is. One-shotting Gladiator who looked to have the exact same powerset as 616-Gladiator is a major feat no matter what universe you are in. The reason why writers put these events in there is for a frame of reference so you can see how powerful the character is.
SPECULATION ALERT.
All they said was that Earth had been destroyed.
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/Exiles0862006Team-DCP23.jpg
Originally posted by KutuluYou might have a point there and yeah destroying planets are feats true, but SP can do that too we know it and standing up to Galactus (unknown power level), beating the Imperial Guard (unknown power levels) isn't really a true feat to go by.
Yeah basically this Galactus was a pacifist. He was the opposite of 616-Galactus, instead of eating planets he restored life to planets.As for Exiles Surfer, picture Surfer with a power level along the lines of Thanos, and make him totally ruthless, replace peaceful scientist knowledge with military scientist and combat training, and give him a surfboard that's a razoblade and you have the Exiles version of Surfer.
Killing off planet Earth along with all of it's superpowered inhabitants is a good feat no matter what universe you are in, and standing toe to toe with Galactus and winning is also a good feat, no matter which version of him it is. One-shotting Gladiator who looked to have the exact same powerset as 616-Gladiator is a major feat no matter what universe you are in. The reason why writers put these events in there is for a frame of reference so you can see how powerful the character is.
Originally posted by quanchi112
All I know is I would definitely like to read about this Surfer. He sounds awesome. If anyone knows where i can download this pm me please. I love Priest's sig. Surfer looks very badass.
Originally posted by Roldz
Here you go but dont really know if its the right place to post this but what the heck
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Originally posted by llagrok
Alf: You clearly haven't read any Exiles comics....You couldn't tell that a lot of characters were completely different? Unless you have some actual proof, you can't walk around saying they're as tough as their 616 counterparts.
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/Page17_Exiles88.jpg
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I dont see how that changes anything. Yes I could tell that some characters were completely different...but not Gladiator.
If im going to bet that an alternate version of Glads is the same as the 616 version and that alternate version looks exactly or almost exactly and seems to have the same powers.....im betting that he has the same powerset. Could be wrong but thats the most likely conclusion.
Originally posted by Alfheim
I dont see how that changes anything. Yes I could tell that some characters were completely different...but not Gladiator.If im going to bet that an alternate version of Glads is the same as the 616 version and that alternate version looks exactly or almost exactly and seems to have the same powers.....im betting that he has the same powerset. Could be wrong but thats the most likely conclusion.
He can still look the same and have a different powerset....
