Silver Surfer (exiles) vs Silver Surfer (616)

Galactus in the Exiles universe only created 2 beings, Surfer and powered up Sabretooth.

Galactus in 616 gave his energy in creating:
* The Fallen One
* Tyrant
* Silver Surfer
* Gabriel the Air-Walker
* Firelord
* Terrax the Tamer
* Nova
* Morg the Executioner
* Red Shift
* Stardust

Look how much more power Galactus had granted to Tyrant for example compared with his heralds. Same type of thing here, Exiles Surfer was basically the only being before Sabretooth to receive a powerup, and Galactus gave the last of his energies to Sabretooth, so it was a much further powerup than the one that empowered most of the heralds in 616.

Originally posted by Priest
616 ftw

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am curious,why? They both have the power cosmic.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am curious,why? They both have the power cosmic.

Originally posted by Priest
616 uses the PC much more better than Exiles.

What the needed to do was put the 616 Surfer with the exiles Galactus and put the exiles Surfer with 616 Galactus and let them go at it.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
616 surfer has much better feats with it.

Another eXiles Galactus was wounded by Thunderbird punching him and was filled with energy, when Sue Richards has pierced through 616 Galactus leaving a gaping hole and done no damage, iirc.

An eXiles Phoenix was killed by Wolverine, Angel and Blink.

Earth 522's Galactus in eXiles #87-88 didn't even perform the same universal function as 616 Galactus.

Alternate universe versions' appearances can't be used for 616 characters nor vice versa. The entirety of Earth 522's Silver Surfer's feats occur in those two issues and they're not enough when compared to the entirety of Earth 616's.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Another eXiles Galactus was wounded by Thunderbird punching him and was filled with energy, when Sue Richards has pierced through 616 Galactus leaving a gaping hole and done no damage, iirc.

An eXiles Phoenix was killed by Wolverine, Angel and Blink.

Galactus in eXiles #87-88 didn't even perform the same universal function as 616 Galactus.

Alternate universe versions appearances can't be used for 616 characters nor vice versa.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am saying that the exiles Surfer power to me was more than the 616 Surfers power. The characters to me in this story that were different from their counterparts were explained whereas Gladiator looked the same to me and they didnt note any differences from his 616 counterpart.

They don't share feats, they aren't on the same power level, and Exiles Silver Surfer looses to 616 yes simply because he has better feats.

It doesn't matter if he only had one appearance. He still looses.

Originally posted by Newjak
Except the Glads were different characters in two different universes. It doesn't matter if you think they looked similar enough that they could be one and the same. They were different.

They don't share feats, they aren't on the same power level, and Exiles Silver Surfer looses to 616 yes simply because he has better feats.

It doesn't matter if he only had one appearance. He still looses.

Again of course the Silver Surfer has better feats but the do have the same power cosmic. 616 holds back while the exiles Surfer will kill you without thinking twice about it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Well I dont see the 616 Surfer beating the exiles Gladiator or him catching his punch like that.

Again of course the Silver Surfer has better feats but the do have the same power cosmic. 616 holds back while the exiles Surfer will kill you without thinking twice about it.

They have the respective Power Cosmic of their universes. Doesn't make them one and the same. I mean Utlimate Thor has a Hammer called Mjolnir I guess that means his Hammer is as strong as 616's right? No.

Feats are what you got to go by, otherwise you get into speculation, and I'm sorry all the feats of Exiles SS just don't match up to 616's.

Originally posted by Newjak
Why don't you. Silver Surfer has already punked 616 Glads, who has actual feats.

They have the respective Power Cosmic of their universes. Doesn't make them one and the same. I mean Utlimate Thor has a Hammer called Mjolnir I guess that means his Hammer is as strong as 616's right? No.

Feats are what you got to go by, otherwise you get into speculation, and I'm sorry all the feats of Exiles SS just don't match up to 616's.

Originally posted by Newjak
Why don't you.

Because to him, speculation is as good as feats.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He was in one story and he successfully destroyed Marvels earth. That is a pretty impressive accomplishment. He has the power cosmic and is capable of anything the 616 Surfer can do. 616 Surfer dies. Its that simple.

its like putting two tigers in a cage while one is aggressive as hell while the other is a pacifist. The aggressive one will win every time.

Actually, they never mentioned that the Silver Surfer actually destroyed the Earth, did they? They only mentioned that it was already destroyed...

Originally posted by quanchi112
He may have punked 616 Gladiator but he also was defeated by Black Panther was he not? He didnt kill 616 Gladiator and treat him like he was nothing either. Clearly in this story the power cosmic was the same.

And it doesn't matter that he didn't kill Glads. He beat a Glads with actual feats.

And the Power Cosmic might of granted some of the same abilities but that doesn't equate to them having the same power level. Once again feats and right now Exiles SS doesn't even match up to 616's average.

Originally posted by llagrok
Because to him, speculation is as good as feats.

Actually, they never mentioned that the Silver Surfer actually destroyed the Earth, did they? They only mentioned that it was already destroyed...

And heres some good old fashioned proof for you as you seem to forget that the Surfer was mentioned as having laid waste to earth.

Originally posted by Newjak
Well he didn't really get defeated per say but yes he got armbared by Black Panther.

And it doesn't matter that he didn't kill Glads. He beat a Glads with actual feats.

And the Power Cosmic might of granted some of the same abilities but that doesn't equate to them having the same power level. Once again feats and right now Exiles SS doesn't even match up to 616's average.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Well the exiles Surfer was impressive and that isnt speculation.

And heres some good old fashioned proof for you as you seem to forget that the Surfer was mentioned as having laid waste to earth.

Right, forgot about that.

Even so, in Exiles 86 you could see that the planet was destroyed. Any herald has the power the destroy a planet, this does not mean that they are strong enough to defeat every being on them.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I feel the way in which the story was laid out that this Surfer indeed had the same power cosmic but you disagree. Of course I dont have the feats as I have said this was a two issue story. I feel the way again in which he was portrayed showed how much of a threat this Surfer was.

But his only feats consisted of mentioning him destroying Earth, and beating an alternate reality Glads. Bad evidence, or speculation at best.

It doesn't matter how you think he was portrayed, his feats don't match up compared to 616's average showings. And nothing to show that Exiles Surfer was even as versatile with the Power Cosmic as 616.

So you can not prove that he is on 616's power level or ability.

eXiles #53 Earth became alive and shot eyebeams at Ego. Why didn't Earth #522 fight back against 522's Surfer like that I wonder? Or are we to assume it did, and add that to 522's feat repertoire since we're just cross-crediting feats from universe to universe? 😕

Originally posted by llagrok
Right, forgot about that.

Even so, in Exiles 86 you could see that the planet was destroyed. Any herald has the power the destroy a planet, this does not mean that they are strong enough to defeat every being on them.

The point is whoever opposed him failed to stop him from crushing earth. I guarantee there was a buttload of opposition. The feat is impressive.