WWH vs. Thor (resurrected)

Originally posted by DarkOdin
HE was expelled once it was crush Hulk's mind overrided Nul entity. SO Hulk was now incharge of his ampped self. If it was the way you say once Hulk took control of his body he should of reverted back to his normal form, This didn't happen until after the hammer was crushed

What you're saying either requires that Hulk was somehow feeding on Nul's energy or that Hulk somehow managed to possess Nul (as well as repossess himself).

It seems clear that it was the other way around. Nul in control meant that Nul had Hulk's strength + his own, Nul not in control meant that Hulk took over his own mind and body whilst Nul struggled to try and regain control of him.

Hulk crushed the hammer so that Nul couldn't fight back and regain control, but it did not destroy Nul and Nul escaped without leaving Hulk "amped".

Originally posted by Damborgson
I'm glad you were able to figure that out, but that isn't how things were done. You'd need solid proof and you don't have it. I guess he could just break down and let loose all that anger against Betty. "YES I AM! AND I'll KILL YOU IF YOU SPEAK OF IT AGAIN!" 😬 c'mon man, this is hard reaching.

key word being "as" which is why I underlined it. He isn't "as" affected as he used to be.

I do know you're confusion now though since I made the mistake of not repeating "as affected" but I'm telling you now that what I'm saying and what was supposed to come across, which is why I quoted it. But for the confusion I apologize.

You trying to take the conversation another route to try and hide how stupid it is to believe that something that amplifies strength can actually make you weaker doesn't mean I'm being bias. I've given credit where credit is due, and I've told you why I believe about the Hulk having better control of his anger and going farther. There's nothing to undermine at this point anyway since you already lost and are now desperately trying to hold on to an almost baseless argument to try and make sense out of something that under your way of seeing it just doesn't make sense.

Which is exactly why he knows how to control it better? Sweet Jesus Sorrow you're almost arguing against yourself.

Not only did I agree it was his powerset but I agreed that he still needs anger just that he can control it better and make it go farther. I already explained why so you pretending you lost the ability to read isn't a valid response anymore. You have nothing, and are pushing faulty points, and I'd gladly admit I was wrong if I was, but I'm not. You are, and I've already told you why.

Just to finally clear things up, you claimed Hulk is always at "WWH levels" even after first transforming from Banner, therefore he must have been at that level when he picked up the Serpents hammer.
For this to have been true, the Hulks power would no longer need to depend on rage, something you were preaching as the truth until you were told otherwise and backtracked before conceding this wasn't the case. I posted a scan clearly showing the Green Scar incarnation needing and even requesting someone make him angrier just in case there was any doubt.
Here it is again: http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/7276562/05-11-2011_16.jpg.html

Here, Banner again requests motivation from Herc to make him angry, Hulk emerges from the rubble: http://lounge.moviecodec.com/images/attachment/yamacha-tries-to-conquer-marvel-earth-12150.jpg
The second scan also shows Green Scar isn't WWH angry at base, he didn't need that kind of motivation when he was "insane with rage" over the death of Caiera. By this point his anger had already died down from that and reverted to his more consistent showings.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Not only did I agree it was his powerset but I agreed that he still needs anger just that he can control it better and make it go farther.

Sorrow is completely owning Damborgson. Just nasty.

Originally posted by janus77
I don't believe the powers were 'blended' at all, Nul possessed Hulk and used his rage to rampage, but Nul remained all the while a distinct and separate power residing within Hulk's body and mind.

What you're saying either requires that Hulk was somehow feeding on Nul's energy or that Hulk somehow managed to possess Nul (as well as repossess himself).

It seems clear that it was the other way around. Nul in control meant that Nul had Hulk's strength + his own, Nul not in control meant that Hulk took over his own mind and body whilst Nul struggled to try and regain control of him.

Hulk crushed the hammer so that Nul couldn't fight back and regain control, but it did not destroy Nul and Nul escaped without leaving Hulk "amped".

It was stated in the issue before Hulk destroy the hammer that the power hulk/nul was using were in part to the runes on Hulks body, the runes were still present on hulk when he crushed the hammer that is fact so Hulk was still ampped be it a little or a lot no one can say but it either way he was still ampped at the time.

Green Scar picked up an Asgardian hammer and had a powerful rage entity bound to his soul. He was then raging pissed.

It's so simple and obvious that Nul was more powerful than the Green Scar persona Hulk. It was repeatedly beat into our skulls. You can disagree that Nul wasn't as epic or badass as you may have liked or be angry that a weakened Thor managed to one shot BFR him into orbit, but the fact of the matter is that he was more powerful than normal.

Given the circumstances of their encounter (IE, Thor's "I can't beat you straight up and never could statement," which IMO is complete BS), I'd think Hulk fans would be damn impressed that Thor essentially KOed himself BFRing Hulk.

It is BS seeing as Thor has beaten more powerful people than Hulk and actually has beaten Hulk before. But yeah, Nul taking that attack which KO'd Thor and landing back on Earth ready to go for more is a huge feat. Yet, somehow, impossibly, Nul wasn't that powerful.

thor always wanted to beat hulk mano-e-mano, but as he said he never could.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
thor always wanted to beat hulk mano-e-mano, but as he said he never could.

Lets face it in every Thor Hulk battle, Hulk doesn't Hulk back Thor on the other hand does.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
No scans then? Concession accepted. Your all talk Damborgson, literally. Your post doesn't rebut anything I've said.

Just to finally clear things up, you claimed Hulk is always at "WWH levels" even after first transforming from Banner, therefore he must have been at that level when he picked up the Serpents hammer.
For this to have been true, the Hulks power would no longer need to depend on rage, something you were preaching as the truth until you were told otherwise and backtracked before conceding this wasn't the case. I posted a scan clearly showing the Green Scar incarnation needing and even requesting someone make him angrier just in case there was any doubt.
Here it is again: http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/7276562/05-11-2011_16.jpg.html

Here, Banner again requests motivation from Herc to make him angry, Hulk emerges from the rubble: http://lounge.moviecodec.com/images/attachment/yamacha-tries-to-conquer-marvel-earth-12150.jpg
The second scan also shows Green Scar isn't WWH angry at base, he didn't need that kind of motivation when he was "insane with rage" over the death of Caiera. By this point his anger had already died down from that and reverted to his more consistent showings.

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The only part of your post I agree with.
I don't think anyone here is claiming Hulk grew weaker with the amp, in fact the only person here guilty of that is you. When he picked up the worthy hammer he was at his baseline strength and the amp was vague. We don't know how close to his WWH levels Nul was and besides beating up some fodder vampires, his showings weren't impressive all things considered. It's similar to comparing War Hulk with his power during WWH, but at least in this analogy we have a good feat to compare it with (their respective performances against Juggernaut).

All talk? I've shamed you more than once Sorrow. 😂 Multiple times actually. So don't get a big head over nothing. I have made rebuttals and you know it since you've been debating them, (or you don't know what they are who knows) but for your benefit I'll explain again.

here goes again I guess:

well you started off with a lie. Cute attempt though. I guess I'm not allowed to make mistakes? I told you what I was saying and pointed it out. The Hulk is not AS dependent on rage as he was. I'm telling you he's walking around at WWH levels because he's still WWH. The Green Scar. Not that his anger is no longer a part of how he amps. I typed quick and made a mistake, so grow up and accept that those things can happen. Because I'm telling you right now, that's what I'm saying.

So I'll even put it in bold: The Hulk who picked up the hammer was still WWH. It was the green scar persona. Meaning he's at those levels. I'm not suggesting that he was base line WBH when he picked it up though. But that he was at WWH levels? Of course. That's his base. Sometimes Savage is weaker than usual because he's not as amped up as he can become, but that doesn't mean he's not savage Hulk anymore. Do you see what I'm saying? It was "WWH." who picked up the hammer. I don't see how thats disputable unless you have a firm belief that family man hulk is an actual rank lol.

Well you have me there. It's hard to argue on panel evidence like that. Looks like he can't go straight to WBH unless PO'd before hand. You agreed with the part that matters though. That he can take his anger farther without needing as much as he used to.

And my point about him having better control over his anger is still on. His fight with Skaar being a good example. He started that fight in WBH mode. With all the anger and pain that he'd felt. He actually tones it down during the fight with Skaar and goes back down to WWH levels. Even after Skaar pushed his anger farther by telling him how he finished Caeira off by feeding what remained of Sakaar to Galactus. Though he was pissed, he kept his power under control the best he could and kept at WWH levels.

Which will lead me to my point. Which has been what matters and what you have been disputing. The Hulk was calm when he picked up the hammer true enough, but he showed the ability to take his rage farther when need be without as much motivation as the past. When he picked up the hammer, he became a snarling rage monster. The only unimpressive showing he has was at the hands of Bendis who whores whoever he needs to for his plot. Or PIS in other words. So by disagreeing that he was indeed WWH's superior, you are saying that it made him weaker. Because there is no way to receive something that gives you power and not be stronger. Anger amps the Hulk, and he was turned into a being filled with total anger as Nul. He was always angry and he enjoyed lashing out at his opponents. He picked up that hammer and his rage had free glow once more. On top of that look at the enormous amp that the other worthy received. The Thing who was a pest Red Hulk physically, was now able to manhandle him. Even if Rulk fought with heart their really was no point in which he posed a threat. Attuma was able to slap Silver Surfer around. Juggernaut when he received the hammer was a shadow of his former self. Getting his helm ripped off by Thor and Hyperion easily to no selling just about everything the X-men could do to him, having amazing mental defenses even without the helm, etc, and the list goes on. If the Hulk received even a similar amp, which unless he's the one exception to the rule, his power would be incredible. To top it off, he didn't hold back unless he saw Betty, and even then the first time he was going to kill her had it not been for intervention. The flawed argument of "he didn't do anything that impressive" is actually completely wrong because

A) He was one of the worthy set on a specific goal to cause destruction, not enslave the heroes of Earth and cause a wank fest event about Hulk to happen again.

B) He actually was more impressive. WWH hit Wolverine with multiple hay-makers that ended up giving him brain damage. Yet he was unable to break the adamantium. His intentions for being there don't matter since he was fine with crippling whoever got in his way if need be. If he could have broken wolverine's admantium he would have. Compare it to Nul who snapped Adamantium like it was regular rope and on top of that was under heavily increased gravity. With one strike.

C) It was repeatedly shown that the worthy are hugely amped.

D) BECAUSE IT'S AGAINST COMMON SENSE. He lost restraint, was in the green scar persona, gained an impact multiplier (aka uru hammer), gained protective spells, and became a rage monster which feeds into his power set.

The only reason to disagree is because you don't want to make the Hulk look bad. You're not trying to prove a point because there isn't one to prove. You're a good debater and and you've proved me wrong on some points, but at the end of the day you're wrong on this one which is the one that matters. Nul was superior to WWH. Why? Because of everything I've said. So accept it or continue to be wrong, I don't care that much but what is, is.
So yes. When you disagree you are saying that the amps made him weaker. 🙂 It's a shame I have to explain your own thoughts for you. But I'll do what I have to.

With all that said. I'll see you all in a week. I'm going San Francisco with the family for a while. So are you done? Or will you wait a week for me to come back? Because as long as you keep being wrong on this certain matter, I won't let it go and tell you what's right. Cya around.

(P.S. this is still all just friendly debating. I'm not being a sick for the sake of being a dick lol)

Originally posted by carver9
Sorrow is completely owning Damborgson. Just nasty.

Poor thing. Don't worry, you'll debate with the big boys someday.

The Hulk that fought Sentry, Zom Strange, Juggernaut, the Avenegers, Xmen, etc, is stronger than the Hulk that picked up the Serpent hammer. Now the proof we need to see is the hammer amping the WWH that picked up the hammer to the levels of the WWH that had earth on lock down because he was madder than he's ever been. That proof will never show up because it doesn't exist.

Originally posted by Damborgson
All talk? I've shamed you more than once Sorrow. 😂 Multiple times actually. So don't get a big head over nothing. I have made rebuttals and you know it since you've been debating them, (or you don't know what they are who knows) but for your benefit I'll explain again.

here goes again I guess:

well you started off with a lie. Cute attempt though. I guess I'm not allowed to make mistakes? I told you what I was saying and pointed it out. The Hulk is not AS dependent on rage as he was. I'm telling you he's walking around at WWH levels because he's still WWH. The Green Scar. Not that his anger is no longer a part of how he amps. I typed quick and made a mistake, so grow up and accept that those things can happen. Because I'm telling you right now, that's what I'm saying.

So I'll even put it in bold: [B]The Hulk who picked up the hammer was still WWH. It was the green scar persona. Meaning he's at those levels. I'm not suggesting that he was base line WBH when he picked it up though. But that he was at WWH levels? Of course. That's his base. Sometimes Savage is weaker than usual because he's not as amped up as he can become, but that doesn't mean he's not savage Hulk anymore. Do you see what I'm saying? It was "WWH." who picked up the hammer. I don't see how thats disputable unless you have a firm belief that family man hulk is an actual rank lol.

Well you have me there. It's hard to argue on panel evidence like that. Looks like he can't go straight to WBH unless PO'd before hand. You agreed with the part that matters though. That he can take his anger farther without needing as much as he used to.

And my point about him having better control over his anger is still on. His fight with Skaar being a good example. He started that fight in WBH mode. With all the anger and pain that he'd felt. He actually tones it down during the fight with Skaar and goes back down to WWH levels. Even after Skaar pushed his anger farther by telling him how he finished Caeira off by feeding what remained of Sakaar to Galactus. Though he was pissed, he kept his power under control the best he could and kept at WWH levels.

Which will lead me to my point. Which has been what matters and what you have been disputing. The Hulk was calm when he picked up the hammer true enough, but he showed the ability to take his rage farther when need be without as much motivation as the past. When he picked up the hammer, he became a snarling rage monster. The only unimpressive showing he has was at the hands of Bendis who whores whoever he needs to for his plot. Or PIS in other words. So by disagreeing that he was indeed WWH's superior, you are saying that it made him weaker. Because there is no way to receive something that gives you power and not be stronger. Anger amps the Hulk, and he was turned into a being filled with total anger as Nul. He was always angry and he enjoyed lashing out at his opponents. He picked up that hammer and his rage had free glow once more. On top of that look at the enormous amp that the other worthy received. The Thing who was a pest Red Hulk physically, was now able to manhandle him. Even if Rulk fought with heart their really was no point in which he posed a threat. Attuma was able to slap Silver Surfer around. Juggernaut when he received the hammer was a shadow of his former self. Getting his helm ripped off by Thor and Hyperion easily to no selling just about everything the X-men could do to him, having amazing mental defenses even without the helm, etc, and the list goes on. If the Hulk received even a similar amp, which unless he's the one exception to the rule, his power would be incredible. To top it off, he didn't hold back unless he saw Betty, and even then the first time he was going to kill her had it not been for intervention. The flawed argument of "he didn't do anything that impressive" is actually completely wrong because

A) He was one of the worthy set on a specific goal to cause destruction, not enslave the heroes of Earth and cause a wank fest event about Hulk to happen again.

B) He actually was more impressive. WWH hit Wolverine with multiple hay-makers that ended up giving him brain damage. Yet he was unable to break the adamantium. His intentions for being there don't matter since he was fine with crippling whoever got in his way if need be. If he could have broken wolverine's admantium he would have. Compare it to Nul who snapped Adamantium like it was regular rope and on top of that was under heavily increased gravity. With one strike.

C) It was repeatedly shown that the worthy are hugely amped.

D) BECAUSE IT'S AGAINST COMMON SENSE. He lost restraint, was in the green scar persona, gained an impact multiplier (aka uru hammer), gained protective spells, and became a rage monster which feeds into his power set.

The only reason to disagree is because you don't want to make the Hulk look bad. You're not trying to prove a point because there isn't one to prove. You're a good debater and and you've proved me wrong on some points, but at the end of the day you're wrong on this one which is the one that matters. Nul was superior to WWH. Why? Because of everything I've said. So accept it or continue to be wrong, I don't care that much but what is, is.
So yes. When you disagree you are saying that the amps made him weaker. 🙂 It's a shame I have to explain your own thoughts for you. But I'll do what I have to.

With all that said. I'll see you all in a week. I'm going San Francisco with the family for a while. So are you done? Or will you wait a week for me to come back? Because as long as you keep being wrong on this certain matter, I won't let it go and tell you what's right. Cya around.

(P.S. this is still all just friendly debating. I'm not being a sick for the sake of being a dick lol)

Poor thing. Don't worry, you'll debate with the big boys someday. [/B]

In Fear itself Hulk VS Dracula the narration states " The Serpent he gathered an army of the worthy by disseminating power-enhancing hammers" Also after Dragula commanded his minion's to come with analze Hulk they came up with " Hulk's power has beean greatly elevated we can only assume it is the hammer" So lets do the math. WWH + Hammer= ...... I will let you guys fill in the rest

I don't see what the fuss is all about. So an amped Hulk got BFRed by Thor...is it not good enough that Thor admitted he couldn't beat him 1v1? I think its great for both characters.

Originally posted by Damborgson
All talk? I've shamed you more than once Sorrow. 😂 Multiple times actually. So don't get a big head over nothing. I have made rebuttals and you know it since you've been debating them, (or you don't know what they are who knows) but for your benefit I'll explain again.

here goes again I guess:

well you started off with a lie. Cute attempt though. I guess I'm not allowed to make mistakes? I told you what I was saying and pointed it out. The Hulk is not AS dependent on rage as he was. I'm telling you he's walking around at WWH levels because he's still WWH. The Green Scar. Not that his anger is no longer a part of how he amps. I typed quick and made a mistake, so grow up and accept that those things can happen. Because I'm telling you right now, that's what I'm saying.

So I'll even put it in bold: [B]The Hulk who picked up the hammer was still WWH. It was the green scar persona. Meaning he's at those levels. I'm not suggesting that he was base line WBH when he picked it up though. But that he was at WWH levels? Of course. That's his base. Sometimes Savage is weaker than usual because he's not as amped up as he can become, but that doesn't mean he's not savage Hulk anymore. Do you see what I'm saying? It was "WWH." who picked up the hammer. I don't see how thats disputable unless you have a firm belief that family man hulk is an actual rank lol.

Well you have me there. It's hard to argue on panel evidence like that. Looks like he can't go straight to WBH unless PO'd before hand. You agreed with the part that matters though. That he can take his anger farther without needing as much as he used to.

And my point about him having better control over his anger is still on. His fight with Skaar being a good example. He started that fight in WBH mode. With all the anger and pain that he'd felt. He actually tones it down during the fight with Skaar and goes back down to WWH levels. Even after Skaar pushed his anger farther by telling him how he finished Caeira off by feeding what remained of Sakaar to Galactus. Though he was pissed, he kept his power under control the best he could and kept at WWH levels.

Which will lead me to my point. Which has been what matters and what you have been disputing. The Hulk was calm when he picked up the hammer true enough, but he showed the ability to take his rage farther when need be without as much motivation as the past. When he picked up the hammer, he became a snarling rage monster. The only unimpressive showing he has was at the hands of Bendis who whores whoever he needs to for his plot. Or PIS in other words. So by disagreeing that he was indeed WWH's superior, you are saying that it made him weaker. Because there is no way to receive something that gives you power and not be stronger. Anger amps the Hulk, and he was turned into a being filled with total anger as Nul. He was always angry and he enjoyed lashing out at his opponents. He picked up that hammer and his rage had free glow once more. On top of that look at the enormous amp that the other worthy received. The Thing who was a pest Red Hulk physically, was now able to manhandle him. Even if Rulk fought with heart their really was no point in which he posed a threat. Attuma was able to slap Silver Surfer around. Juggernaut when he received the hammer was a shadow of his former self. Getting his helm ripped off by Thor and Hyperion easily to no selling just about everything the X-men could do to him, having amazing mental defenses even without the helm, etc, and the list goes on. If the Hulk received even a similar amp, which unless he's the one exception to the rule, his power would be incredible. To top it off, he didn't hold back unless he saw Betty, and even then the first time he was going to kill her had it not been for intervention. The flawed argument of "he didn't do anything that impressive" is actually completely wrong because

A) He was one of the worthy set on a specific goal to cause destruction, not enslave the heroes of Earth and cause a wank fest event about Hulk to happen again.

B) He actually was more impressive. WWH hit Wolverine with multiple hay-makers that ended up giving him brain damage. Yet he was unable to break the adamantium. His intentions for being there don't matter since he was fine with crippling whoever got in his way if need be. If he could have broken wolverine's admantium he would have. Compare it to Nul who snapped Adamantium like it was regular rope and on top of that was under heavily increased gravity. With one strike.

C) It was repeatedly shown that the worthy are hugely amped.

D) BECAUSE IT'S AGAINST COMMON SENSE. He lost restraint, was in the green scar persona, gained an impact multiplier (aka uru hammer), gained protective spells, and became a rage monster which feeds into his power set.

The only reason to disagree is because you don't want to make the Hulk look bad. You're not trying to prove a point because there isn't one to prove. You're a good debater and and you've proved me wrong on some points, but at the end of the day you're wrong on this one which is the one that matters. Nul was superior to WWH. Why? Because of everything I've said. So accept it or continue to be wrong, I don't care that much but what is, is.
So yes. When you disagree you are saying that the amps made him weaker. 🙂 It's a shame I have to explain your own thoughts for you. But I'll do what I have to.

With all that said. I'll see you all in a week. I'm going San Francisco with the family for a while. So are you done? Or will you wait a week for me to come back? Because as long as you keep being wrong on this certain matter, I won't let it go and tell you what's right. Cya around.

(P.S. this is still all just friendly debating. I'm not being a sick for the sake of being a dick lol)

Poor thing. Don't worry, you'll debate with the big boys someday. [/B]

(No worries, I didn't think that when I read your posts we're all comicbook fans at the end of the day. Mine weren't meant to be either just in case they came across that way 😛)

Originally posted by carver9
The Hulk that fought Sentry, Zom Strange, Juggernaut, the Avenegers, Xmen, etc, is stronger than the Hulk that picked up the Serpent hammer. Now the proof we need to see is the hammer amping the WWH that picked up the hammer to the levels of the WWH that had earth on lock down because he was madder than he's ever been. That proof will never show up because it doesn't exist.

Originally posted by DarkOdin
Just to help your debate a little not that it is needed

In Fear itself Hulk VS Dracula the narration states " The Serpent he gathered an army of the worthy by disseminating power-enhancing hammers" Also after Dragula commanded his minion's to come with analze Hulk they came up with " Hulk's power has beean greatly elevated we can only assume it is the hammer" So lets do the math. WWH + Hammer= ...... I will let you guys fill in the rest

In math nothing is ever left out, and will always come to the same answer no matter how it is twisted, but Fear Itself, and WW Hulk were written by two different writers with two different ideas of the character. You really can't do the math.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
You already conceded when you failed to post scans proving Hulk was always at WWH levels and your initial claims were proved false. As far as the Worthy go there isn't enough to go on judging how big the amps were, each member was boosted to varying degrees, e.g. Attuma was able to knock Surfer around while Creel got punked by Pym. Tbh I don't logically see how a vague amp would be more significant than Hulk raging over the death of a loved one. Ironically he was able break Nul's control once he got angry over Betty in the end. To your comparison regarding Adamantium, it would hold more weight if A) Green Scar was actually trying to break Wolverine and B) the net was proven to be as dense as his skeleton, the rest of his showings are moot really.

(No worries, I didn't think that when I read your posts we're all comicbook fans at the end of the day. Mine weren't meant to be either just in case they came across that way 😛)

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Green Scar was trying to incapacitate him. If he could've broken him he would have. But he couldn't. It's adamantium at the end of the day. And Hulk was encumbered by the higher gravity. He broke adamantium basically by raising his arm, where as multiple punches couldn't get the job done by WWH. Like I said he'd already decided to cripple whoever he needed and he couldn't kill Wolverine so had he been able to break him he would have. He just couldn't. Period.

ok good to hear. 👆

agreeing with Carver sunk your argument before it began though

(jk Carv 😛)

^ Do you believe that the Hulk was trying to kill or break Wolverine? If so why didn't he kill Peter, Guido or all of the mutants standing in his way? Banner during the WW Hulk arc was on a campaign of vengeance. The entire time he could have split the Earth with one thunderous blow. That was not his reason for doing what he did, or why he came back.

Originally posted by Stoic
^ Do you believe that the Hulk was trying to kill or break Wolverine? If so why didn't he kill Peter, Guido or all of the mutants standing in his way? Banner during the WW Hulk arc was on a campaign of vengeance. The entire time he could have split the Earth with one thunderous blow. That was not his reason for doing what he did, or why he came back.

Damborgson Is trying to find any excuse to help his lame argument. Hulk wasn't trying to kill anyone there when he fought the Xmen...let alone break Wolverine adamantium skeleton. Then he is basically saying WWH was punching Wolverine with everything he got...WTF. There is so much wrong with his post that I didn't even read it all.

Originally posted by Stoic
^ Do you believe that the Hulk was trying to kill or break Wolverine? If so why didn't he kill Peter, Guido or all of the mutants standing in his way? Banner during the WW Hulk arc was on a campaign of vengeance. The entire time he could have split the Earth with one thunderous blow. That was not his reason for doing what he did, or why he came back.

Originally posted by carver9
Damborgson Is trying to find any excuse to help his lame argument. Hulk wasn't trying to kill anyone there when he fought the Xmen...let alone break Wolverine adamantium skeleton. Then he is basically saying WWH was punching Wolverine with everything he got...WTF. There is so much wrong with his post that I didn't even read it all.

lmao. this "lame argument" is actually correct. No amount of strawmanning/trolling from you is gonna change that.

Why do people keep bringing up 'WWH wasn't trying to kill Wolverine' as a reason as to why he didn't break the adamantium skeleton?

Just break his arms like Namorix did to Rulk. Or tear him in half and BFR him like in Ultimate Wolverine/Hulk. No killing necessary.