Lightning is supposed to be the only to can destroy Bane's orbalisks
Even then they were able to absorb a million volts in his fight with the shadow assassin's.
Bane. Mace's Vaapad redirects the Dark Side energy(at least from my understanding) and uses it to fight Sith. This wouldn't work well against Bane because his orbalisk's also absorb Dark Side energy and uses it to boost Bane's own attributes. I'm also doubtful that Bane has a shatterpoint. Unlike Sidious, Bane doesn't trust anyone.
He also has super-enhanced strength and speed and 90% lightsaber protection. Windu doesn't.
Even then they were able to absorb a million volts in his fight with the shadow assassin's.
You do realize a million volts is nothing, right? You can get a one million volt stun gun for under $20.
Bane. Mace's Vaapad redirects the Dark Side energy(at least from my understanding) and uses it to fight Sith. This wouldn't work well against Bane because his orbalisk's also absorb Dark Side energy and uses it to boost Bane's own attributes. I'm also doubtful that Bane has a shatterpoint. Unlike Sidious, Bane doesn't trust anyone.
He also has super-enhanced strength and speed and 90% lightsaber protection. Windu doesn't.
Vaapad creates a superconducting loop of dark side energies, it would prevent the orbalisks from absorbing any of it. Bane would have a shatterpoint, everything does, and no Sith actually trusts anyone, Sidious included. Bane's physical strength would be negated by Mace's superior force power, and 10% of a traget is no problem for someone of Master Windu's caliber.
Originally posted by Darth Exodus
Even then they were able to absorb a [b]million volts in his fight with the shadow assassin's.[/B]
It didn't exactly happen the way I believe you are inferring. page 201 RO2
The remain five struck Bane simultaneously, their force pike sending a million volts of current through his body. The orbalisks absorbed most of the charge but enough filtered through through to jolt him from his teeth downto his toes. The Dark Lord staggered and fell to his knees. But instead of rishing in to finish him off,the assassins simply stood their ground.
You do realize a million volts is nothing, right? You can get a one million volt stun gun for under $20.
Well now you're just appealing to ridicule. A million volt stun gun is as powerful as they come, and could easily kill a human in seconds. Hardly nothing.
Vaapad creates a superconducting loop of dark side energies, it would prevent the orbalisks from absorbing any of it.
Vaapad directs the energies back at where they're coming from, so how exactly would that prevent Bane from absorbing them?
Bane would have a shatterpoint, everything does,
Really? Everything? Absolutely everything? I'd love to see you prove up on that kind of absolute statement.
Now assuming that Bane does have a Shatterpoint, being able to capitalise on one is a completely different story from simply being able to sense one, and given Bane's logically superior ability (as explained later one in this post), it's doubtful he'd be able to exploit one, even assuming that Bane has one, and that he senses it (it takes Mace several minutes to locate Depa Billaba's, and he trained her).
Bane's physical strength would be negated by Mace's superior force power,
Perhaps if you were actually capable of providing a valid argument, this assertion might be of higher value. Sadly, you're not, thus, it isn't. Based on what we know - as in what they've both displayed - Bane has him beat by a pretty large margin in that department, given his display of power and mastery during the BoD's ritual Force Storm, which far eclipses anything Mace has done. He's literally able to absorb energy powerful enough to destroy an entire planet, contain it, and redirect it across the entire planet. Mace, at best, is shown to be able to hold 100 metric tonnes of rock in place with the force, and the performance requires nearly all of his concentration. Impressive, sure, but hardly compares.
Not to mention, Bane's force strength, stated to far eclipse the BoD's, and the fact that he's able to consistently outclass extremely powerful force users with his powers, and consistently use his force powers to completely disintegrate multiple opponents at once, whereas you have Mace Windu being overpowered by force users on the [average] level of Sora Bulq at one time, and not consistently doing anything much above average.
and 10% of a traget is no problem for someone of Master Windu's caliber.
No, you don't look at Mace's ability alone to gauge how easily he would be able to exploit such a small defence, you look at how his ability stacks up to Bane's, and it would have to be a good deal greater than the Sith Lord's for the considerable advantage to be negated, and given how you haven't even provided an argument, your claim doesn't really amount to much.
I'm personally not seeing how Mace really compares (yes, even with his mostly unsubstantiated Vaapad form, and overblown Shatterpoint gift), given how Bane's weaker PoD incarnation (who had yet to receive ten extra years of lightsaber training and study of the force, and the orbalisk armour) was able to overwhelm Kas'im in direct combat, whilst on equal footing, who had mastered and spent decades refining every single lightsaber form, and who was suggested as possibly being the greatest swordsman there had ever been up until his time.
Aside from that, he's physically more impressive, being described as a mountain of muscle, and his displays of speed easily have Mace's beat, given how he's able to move so fast that time appears to stop for powerful force users in his presence, and how he's able to move his lightsaber so fast that it appears like he's wielding twelve sabers at once, when up against someone as powerful as Darth Zannah.
I know how people love to think of Mace as some kind of Jedi Tulak Hord, but the fact is, he hardly even outclasses small timers within his era (Asajj Ventress was able to put up a fight against him, and even knock him back, after receiving hardly any training, for instance), so I don't see how he would be able to defeat Bane, who's likely the hardest lightsaber duelist there is to contend with, given his considerable ability, and orbalisk armour.
Originally posted by OmegaSupreme
I know how people love to think of Mace as some kind of Jedi Tulak Hord, but the fact is, he hardly even outclasses small timers within his era (Asajj Ventress was able to put up a fight against him, and even knock him back, after receiving hardly any training, for instance).
Just curious was this before or after shatterpoint?
Well now you're just appealing to ridicule. A million volt stun gun is as powerful as they come, and could easily kill a human in seconds. Hardly nothing.
LOL, this proves you don't know what the hell you're talking about. A one million volt stun gun cannot kill. Amps kill you, volts are harmless. Why do you think a 50,000 volt stun gun is non lethal put putting a fork in a 125 volt wall plug can kill you?
I don't see any point in arguing with someone who acts like they know what they're talking about but in reality is completely ignorant.
Originally posted by fascistcrusaderiWell now you're just appealing to ridicule. A million volt stun gun is as powerful as they come, and could easily kill a human in seconds. Hardly nothing./i
What did I tell you about using italics? Stop doing it. You're neither cool, nor a gangstar.
LOL, this proves you don't know what the hell you're talking about. A one million volt stun gun cannot kill.
Yes it can. Aimed directly at a person's heart, or aimed anywhere at a person whose body is covered with water, and it can kill you in seconds.
Amps kill you, volts are harmless.
Don't be ridiculous. The volts determine how forcefully the current is emitted. The volts, alone, don't have any physical effect on you, so you labelling them harmless in the way that you're doing sounds just silly. The amps are what technically kill you, yes, I never denied that, but the voltage is fully proportional with the intensity of the current emitted, and in a million volt stun gun, the intensity can easily kill someone if targeted at an organ such as the heart.
Why do you think a 50,000 volt stun gun is non lethal put putting a fork in a 125 volt wall plug can kill you?
Non lethal? No, lethal. Not as lethal, but if targeted at the heart or something, it would eventually kill you if continuously released.
Either way, none of this changes the fact that you committed a fallacy by trying to downplay the lethality of a million volts by using the low price of such a stun gun.
I don't see any point in arguing with someone who acts like they know what they're talking about but in reality is completely ignorant.
Ok, let's pretend I know nothing about physics, volt guns, and other such topics. Does that detract anything from the rest of my argument? No? Ok then. So, get to it, if you can.