Lucifer vs *insert Marvel character*

Started by quanchi11223 pages

Originally posted by Mindset
Her love will purify your soul quanchi, accept her as your savior.
Rubbish.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That is the same as when darkseid told us that Superman was his physical rival. That was the truth and so is this. To say Thanos was lying is ridiculous. He becmae god so why would he lie about how he survived. He was telling us the story and is meant to be taken literally on this one.

If he wasnt omniscient enough to see his own end when he got the hotu, then what makes you think he wasnt confused about how he actually got the power? He was a pawn. Given what he had.

These aren't the discussions I had in mind when I made this thread. 😬

Originally posted by Sirius77
If he wasnt omniscient enough to see his own end when he got the hotu, then what makes you think he wasnt confused about how he actually got the power? He was a pawn. Given what he had.
Yes but to be used by god isnt that bad now is it. Anyways marvels god needed him to do something he couldnt accomplish on his own. Again the hotu has more impressive on panel feats and was Thanos as god. 🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Uhm Thanos would for sure. Marvel's God needed him. Thanos's will is stronger than Lucy's.
😂

Ah... classic Quan posts.

Scathan. Since he seems the only one who is above the Lt's power lvl. the LT would fall to lucifer in an all out fight. Pretty much anyone would since God's power is shaped and molded by Lucifer's will. Lucy can use your own power, skills, mind, what ever, against you. Reed Richards pwned the LT with his own power, Lucifer would do so much worse.

marvel's god needed thanos????

thanos has more willpower than lucifer?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!

what the HELLLLL?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

lucifer currently wins. the difference between the power of marvel WRITERS and the strongest IN COMIC entities is TOOOOOO much currently. as opposed to dc/vertigo. currently no1 exists that i know of that can take the lightbringer.

also fangirls, dont forget lucifer's lightbringer powers along with his will.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos' will is stronger than his.

is that why he was absorbed by thanos's soul gem and thanos's mind held his spirit inside without going completely insane{although he did lose a bit of his sanity}.

Originally posted by tjcoady
Have you seriously read the Bible? Quote me the book and passage that talks about a "Lucifer." There's an ambigious passage in Isiah that refers to a "fallen son of dawn," but the notion that it's necessarily an angel is false.

The being known as the "Adversary" has three major appearances in the Bible, not counting a cameo in the Book of Wisdom. We claim that the Serpent in the Garden of Eden is the Devil- there's no contextual evidence for this whatsoever. It's just a Serpent. If we use the term "Devil" to mean one who tempts in anathema to God, then he fits that, but the Serpent is never referred to as the Devil.

The Adversary appears again in Job, as an Angel in God's court whose role it is to debate with God.

And finally there is the Adversary who tempts Christ in his forty days in the Desert. Never once is this being referred to as the Devil, and never once is a mention made that he rebelled against God. The whole idea of the fall of the Angels who rebelled on Lucifer's side is based on a mistaken translation about a secular leader who fell from grace, miserably conflated and twisted by Dante, Milton, and Catholic dogma that felt a need to create such a being.

well yes, devil was a necessary invention to christian dogma, most BIBLICAL accounts speak of multiple highly vague adversaries etc, you cant make the jump from that to a fallen angel who rules hell.

carey's/gaiman's and vertigo's interpretation is based mostly on milton's paradise lost as commeneted on by both writers, durthermore, the physical character of lucifer is based partially on david bowie among some others.

but u r wrong on some accounts, the basanos never beat him utright, it was the slow magic of izanami inside lucifer's wongs working for eons which in the end ignited his OWN lightbringer power against him{and this magic was done by putting false feather in lucifer's wings BEFORE lucifer got his wings back so he cudnt just take them out as he didnt have his powers prior to getting his wings back} and even then, when elaine died to make contact with his PHYSICAL self{since lucy doesnt have a seperate SOUL} death showed up and on panel admitted that she had no domain on lucifer and lucifer even threatened to kill her and she her reply admitted that he cud do it, but it wudnt be wise as then souls would stop going to hell as they needed to DIE first.

also, sum1 gave a nice analogy a while back

{lucifer and thanos are playign chess, thanos moves his piece in the first move}

thanos : your turn
lucifer: no
thanos: why not
lucifer: youve already lost {and thanos has}
thanos: but you didnt even move your piece
lucifer: exactly, your not worth my time {walks off}

Originally posted by fangirl101
Scathan. Since he seems the only one who is above the Lt's power lvl. the LT would fall to lucifer in an all out fight. Pretty much anyone would since God's power is shaped and molded by Lucifer's will. Lucy can use your own power, skills, mind, what ever, against you. Reed Richards pwned the LT with his own power, Lucifer would do so much worse.
Wasnt lucy defeated by fenris?

So couldnt the Lt do much worse than fenris by your own morbid logic.

Both the lt and Scathan are above Lucy by a fair margin.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
marvel's god needed thanos????

thanos has more willpower than lucifer?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!

what the HELLLLL?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

lucifer currently wins. the difference between the power of marvel WRITERS and the strongest IN COMIC entities is TOOOOOO much currently. as opposed to dc/vertigo. currently no1 exists that i know of that can take the lightbringer.

also fangirls, dont forget lucifer's lightbringer powers along with his will.

Thanos was needed to fix the flax. He became supreme and still existed due to his willpower.

If lucy was in marvel Thanos would come for him.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
is that why he was absorbed by thanos's soul gem and thanos's mind held his spirit inside without going completely insane{although he did lose a bit of his sanity}.
Who was absorbed? Explain this again please.

Originally posted by quanchi112

Who was absorbed? Explain this again please.


Why are you wasting your time?

Originally posted by quanchi112
If lucy was in marvel Thanos would come for him.
Kinky.

A few could. HOTI, PR Beyonder, the LT, PR Molecule Man, and Wolverine could.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Why are you wasting your time?
Mr Master I cant ignore anyone its part of my problem.

MM and Beyonder aren't intelligent enough to take on Lucifer 🙂

Originally posted by llagrok
MM and Beyonder aren't intelligent enough to take on Lucifer 🙂
Beyonder is.

MAYBE end SW2 Beyonder.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Beyonder is.
Just curious what Beyonder did that puts him on Lucifer's wit/intelligence-level?

also, sum1 gave a nice analogy a while back

{lucifer and thanos are playign chess, thanos moves his piece in the first move}

thanos : your turn
lucifer: no
thanos: why not
lucifer: youve already lost {and thanos has}
thanos: but you didnt even move your piece
lucifer: exactly, your not worth my time {walks off}

thanos wins by default then, who is the genius that made that analogy?