Akuma and Orochi and Sephiroth vs Ryu Hayabusa, Lu Bu and Raziel

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Even in given isntant, Raziel TK hold Sephiorth, Sephiroth TK Holds Raziel, Akuma one shots Raziel

Sight is a sense, do you attack where you saw something a few seconds ago?

Don't confuse it with smell.

whats to stop Raziel from doing it to Akuma, this is all piling on the fact that theres now 2 vs Raziel, leaving Team 2 with more options for their other 2 to attack Orchi or pile up on Akuma, i think Ryu may have stasis effects, depending on the distance the charatcers are as well and the speed of Akuma he could Tk shackle Sephiroth and then Akuma, also if hes allowed to go spectoral he could escape the TK and come back.

looking at the respect thead, Akuma has no speed feats according to that, their all strength, but no speed.....i read most of the respect thread...he looks slow to me

if Raziel is not allowed to come back into material from spectroal then he would just have to let out one last power in his death, possbily ice

well this dependso n how this sense is then, how he senses this energy is dependant, but i have doubts Raziel would have a flow of this energy

Originally posted by Burning thought
whats to stop Raziel from doing it to Akuma, this is all piling on the fact that theres now 2 vs Raziel, leaving Team 2 with more options for their other 2 to attack Orchi or pile up on Akuma, i think Ryu may have stasis effects, depending on the distance the charatcers are as well and the speed of Akuma he could Tk shackle Sephiroth and then Akuma, also if hes allowed to go spectoral he could escape the TK and come back.

looking at the respect thead, Akuma has no speed feats according to that, their all strength, but no speed.....i read most of the respect thread...he looks slow to me

if Raziel is not allowed to come back into material from spectroal then he would just have to let out one last power in his death, possbily ice

well this dependso n how this sense is then, how he senses this energy is dependant, but i have doubts Raziel would have a flow of this energy

True, though, What's to stop Sephiroth TK holding all 3? hmm

Ryu can escape via teleport, not sure about Lu-Bu

Raziel could TK all 3 of the oposing side, only he can only shackle them one at a time, so the most dangerous ones first to last, and then freeze/soul reave to finish them off

Originally posted by Burning thought
Ryu can escape via teleport, not sure about Lu-Bu

Raziel could TK all 3 of the oposing side, only he can only shackle them one at a time, so the most dangerous ones first to last, and then freeze/soul reave to finish them off

You can't teleport out of a TK 😐

Originally posted by EvilAngel
You can't teleport out of a TK 😐

what makes you say that?

TK is holding you, if someone teleports they momenterily dont excist, which would break the TK since its not holding anything, ofc you could teleport out of Tk, why wouldnt you?

Originally posted by Burning thought
what makes you say that?

TK is holding you, if someone teleports they momenterily dont excist, which would break the TK since its not holding anything, ofc you could teleport out of Tk, why wouldnt you?

TK stops you from moving, I was under the assumption you have to do something to teleport.

Even so, He teleports, gets re-TK'ed

Originally posted by EvilAngel
TK stops you from moving, I was under the assumption you have to do something to teleport.

Even so, He teleports, gets re-TK'ed

well i dont know about Ryu, all ive seen of Sephiroths Tk is that he can hold the body still, not arms and legs so if Ryu needs to mvoe those to teleport or use abilities he is fine

well thats all very well, then Sephiroth will be floating about Tking whenever he gets the chance, what if Ryu simply teleports behind Sephiroth, the guys in a lot of trouble and likely dead and as soon as team 1s only Tker goes down, their done for considering Raziel would still be around

but this is just supposing theres no such thing as raziel invisiblity

Originally posted by Burning thought
well i dont know about Ryu, all ive seen of Sephiroths Tk is that he can hold the body still, not arms and legs so if Ryu needs to mvoe those to teleport or use abilities he is fine

well thats all very well, then Sephiroth will be floating about Tking whenever he gets the chance, what if Ryu simply teleports behind Sephiroth, the guys in a lot of trouble and likely dead and as soon as team 1s only Tker goes down, their done for considering Raziel would still be around

but this is just supposing theres no such thing as raziel invisiblity

Sephiroth can move about fine Whilst TKing, so TK, dead, dead, Re-TK, Dead

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Sephiroth can move about fine Whilst TKing, so TK, dead, dead, Re-TK, Dead

when has he done this, hmm interesting ive not seen Sephiroth move while doing it, how about when hes Tked by raziel as well...hes stuck also

and wtf? lol, whos going to be dead, sephiroth would be dead trying to attack Raziel, the Wraith blade is almost as big as Raz and hes not going to be holding it away from sephiroth if Sephiroth tried to attack, and Ryu wouldnt be doing nothing, Raziel will have most of the team 1 in TK shackles before tehy can kill him, and then thats the end of that, their not doing much in shackles

Akuma doesnt seem fast at all, and i dont know Orochi

Originally posted by Burning thought
when has he done this, hmm interesting ive not seen Sephiroth move while doing it, how about when hes Tked by raziel as well...hes stuck also

and wtf? lol, whos going to be dead, sephiroth would be dead trying to attack Raziel, the Wraith blade is almost as big as Raz and hes not going to be holding it away from sephiroth if Sephiroth tried to attack, and Ryu wouldnt be doing nothing, Raziel will have most of the team 1 in TK shackles before tehy can kill him, and then thats the end of that, their not doing much in shackles

Akuma doesnt seem fast at all, and i dont know Orochi

He was Tking Cloud and so while hovering himself and doing gestures..... I will also point out Sephiroth nearly physically torn apart Cloud & Co using TK. Now with 3, his focus is much better per person....

Originally posted by EvilAngel
He was Tking Cloud and so while hovering himself and doing gestures..... I will also point out Sephiroth nearly physically torn apart Cloud & Co using TK. Now with 3, his focus is much better per person....

its specualtion what he could do however, i know he was hovering but he wasnt moving much, he wasnt speed blitzing or any of that, and theres nothing to suggest he could, and his Tk was not pinpoint, their arms and such were all over the place

is there any proof that its TK? it does matter considering if it was simply force of will, then he would have to combat the will of the target, wheras TK does not have such limitations

Thing is Ryu Hayabusa has telekenesis as well. He has amazing contorl with that too. He lifted and levitated a boulder which probabbly weigh close to a tone and manuvered it around easily while dodging multiple attacks. While at the same time fighting and dealing damage with close range combat on top of the boulder. Ryu hayabusa has strong TK and some nice control with it as well. Also. Whats to stop Sephiroth from getting his soul and spirit sucked out of him from The Kietsu. ???

Originally posted by EvilAngel
He was Tking Cloud and so while hovering himself and doing gestures..... I will also point out Sephiroth nearly physically torn apart Cloud & Co using TK. Now with 3, his focus is much better per person....

Talking about focus... Sephiroth's focus was on Holy during all the battle. Considering Holy's power, if he focused on the party all the power he was focusing on Holy, he would probably explode them(the party).
You cannot compare Ryu holding a boulder, with Sephiroth holding fuc*ing Holy!

And physical/energy attacks don't work on Seph. The guy have intangibility.

Ryu's TK on that boulder is so funny. You make out it's amazing, when it's really not 😂

Moving an inanimate object is nothing compared to holding a living being with it's own resistances.

Raziel looks like Mewtwo standing next to Ryu and his boulder brain.

Sephiroth has been shown to do astral projects. not Intangibility. If he does. Ryu Hayabusa sword also cuts through people who can go intangible. See the battle aginst Spirit Doku.

Also i was stated Ryu tk on the boulder at how impressive his control and focus is giving the circumstances of the battle. He was basicly in hell in hellish enviorments with the whole place following donw ontop of him along with support himself and the boulder manuvering it around a whole arsneal of attacks. Clearly stating how focus his TK and control is. Idiot. Also in the ending clip of Ninja Gaiden you can see Ryu Hayabusa going into spirit form becoming intangibile. So yua point.

Also i beleive sephiroth didnt hold Holy back with TK. An exploding the party is only assumptions. He didnt so it cant be given. But he deos have good focus.

Also if sephiroth is soo intangible, then how come he got killed by Cloud in AC. And FFVII. He wanted to make cloud suffer not have him kill him.

So please support the fact that sephiroth really does has Intangibility and not just astral projection.

Raziels TK cant hold anything.. all his "TK" does is push

So please support the fact that sephiroth really does has Intangibility and not just astral projection.

same sephiroth that killed aeris

Sephiroth never created astral-projections, and he can turn intangible. I was going to use facts and evidences to explain everything to you Csdabest, but after reading you calling me an idiot without any reason, I decided to just ignore you. Sorry, but I don't have the patience right now to exchange childish insults with a troll like you.

If you want to have a civilized conversation with people, don't insult them.

Oh that part. I thought you were reffearing to the part when they were gathered in a room. And Sephiroth was transparant like.

But either way it still doesnt change the fact that the True Dragon Sword has the ability to cut through intangiuble objects.

Also who more childish. The one who says the insult. or the one who gets bent out of shape. But if it bothered you that badly. I am sorry.

Thats only one of the multiple scenes of Sephiroth teleporting/intageable, hes using parts of Jenova, and her powers.. AC Sephiroth IS infact 100% Jenova body, and even has control over the neg lifestream, who knows what powers it has, all we know is that its above Chaos/Omega