Thanos w THOTU vs. The Endless

Originally posted by Galan007
But we know he didn't have 'infinite' wisdom in '92,
because he was unsure whether or not the IW were trustworthy...

Originally posted by Galan007
Sure he may have known ALL else -- but due to that one panel,
we know for sure he was not 'truly' omniscient at the time...

Originally posted by Galan007
Fast-forward to nowadays,
in which LT is apparently 'truly' omniscient --
so it only stands to reason that his power, and/or knowledge,
has certainly expanded in some way..

So his knowledge must've been decreased first, then incresed again.

Btw. I doubt that's the case,
imo, the IW, at the time were outside the omniscient perception of the LT,
just like they were beyond Eternity's influence.

But it's quite clear, in many depictions before and after 92'
the LT was, and is Omniscient.

Originally posted by Galan007
Unless you believe he would still have questions regarding the IW. lol [/B]

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Bah, as long as he's Omniscient now. mwahaha

Originally posted by Mr Master
I'd say he wasn't omniscient ONLY concerning the IW in that one issue.

In that one issue? I agree.

But if we back-track to 1967 the LT [B]is Omniscient.

So his knowledge must've been decreased first, then incresed again.

Btw. I doubt that's the case,
imo, the IW, at the time were outside the omniscient perception of the LT,
just like they were beyond Eternity's influence.

But it's quite clear, in many depictions before and after 92'
the LT was, and is Omniscient.

😂 ... I believe that was a self contained statement,
that contradicts the LT's scale of knowledge, before 92' and after 92'

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Bah, as long as he's Omniscient now. mwahaha [/B]

In '92 LT knew ALL, with the exception of IW factoids [ridiculous, imo]..

Nowadays,
He simply is what he is. 🙂

Originally posted by celestialdemon
The only thing I can think of is at the time the statements were made about the LT being omniscient, there were no IG gems guardians,
which meant he could see everything.

But if that was the case, it was definitely changed,
cause in 97' we learned,
that the LT spins the Destiny of the Alpha and Omega in one hand.

Originally posted by Galan007
Agreed.

In '92 LT more than likely knew ALL, with the exception of IW factoids [ridiculous, imo]..

Originally posted by Galan007
Nowadays,
He simply is what he is.

That was the only way to fix the problem.

That was the way the story was written.

If you can produce one scan that states,
Thanos' power was limited, and so he couldn't fix the flaw,
then that's something,
but how could there have been a story, if Thanos didn't have to erase everything,
I mean, that was the whole point of story.

so . . . he wasn't really omnipotent because the story needed him NOT to be? ❌

you can cite story purposes all you'd like, it doesn't change the fact that his 'omnipotence' was repeatedly refuted by his thoughts and actions. the story is one of the worst ever written by marvel BECAUSE of the ridiculous contradictions. you say thanos was omnipotent because of his words and the words of others in the story. omnipotence by definition implies omniscience and infallibility -- he has the power to know all and see all.

he was anything BUT either of those things throughout that silly series. you can't say -- "well, he WOULD have been omnipotent if the story didn't require him to HAVE to fail." failure and omnipotence are by definition mutually exclusive. he failed, therefore he was not omnipotent. there is no gray area.

i've repeatedly said that he may have possessed unlimited power (though that is also shown to be untrue because again, he FAILED to fix the problem and was FORCED to resort to resetting things) but he was not omnipotent (ie--by definition INCAPABLE of failing at ANYTHING). he failed to control his temper. he failed to understand until later that he was being played by toaa, he failed to perceive the army gathering against him. he despaired, was surprised, etc . . . the story itself is a story of REDEMPTION. one who is truly omnipotent does not REQUIRE redemption. thanos retained his sense of mortality/humanity throughout the series. he was a mortal being wielding a lot of power. he HAD to retain his mortality for the sake of the story. no reader can sympathize with a 'truly' omnipotent being. as such, BECAUSE of his mortality, he was NOT omnipotent.

as far as showing you a direct quote or line saying he was limited -- well, ironically, it says thanos was limited EXACTLY the same number of times it says he "destroyed the multiverse and omniverse". 😉 you can't look at context and extrapolate for one thing, then refuse to accept context for another. that's exactly what you are doing here.

Where are you getting this from?

well, from a very reliable source (at least he thinks so! 😄 )

mr m says:

IMO,
it's quite conceivable
that Thanos (subconsciously) allowed Death and Warlock to survive for said reasons.

so, even you feel (and i agree completely) it is possible that thanos allowed something to happen subconsciously -- ie -- without his actually being aware of its happening. that could obviously not happen were he omnipotent.

Really? "many?" ... Name me 3.

🤨 i trust you are kidding, but hey, as you wish. 🙂

UNCONTROLLABLE ANGER (someone omnipotent is ALWAYS in control)
http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=angercq1.jpg

DESTINED to annihilate
http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=destinedxg4.jpg

DESTINED to be my station
http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?image=destiny2oh0.jpg

DESPERATION, DENIAL and outright FAILURE -- omnipotence does NOT fail
http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=failednx1.jpg

IMPOSSIBLE for him (doesn't matter that the story 'required it'. nothing is impossible if someone is omnipotent -- that's the definition of it)
http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?image=impossiblepe5.jpg

SURPRISE. again, implying he didn't know something
http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=surpriseww6.jpg

UNAWARE. again he doesn't know something. omnipotence=knows all
http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=unaware2mo5.jpg

and there are other examples, but that makes my point. thanos was powerful, not omnipotent. at least not in the true sense of the word.

and a point about bobi's take on emotions and infallibility -- it's my opinion bobi that emotions DO indicate fallibility (but lack of emotions does NOT equate to the obverse, obviously). if we are happy, it implies we have experienced a time where we were NOT happy, which implies an inability to control our emotions or the environment around us or at least an inability to prevent whatever MADE us unhappy. surprise indicates lack of a priori knowledge. anger, lack of rational control. emotions are our responses to situations that are dictated TO us. we cannot control them, they simply are. an inability to control is a fault. this implies we are fallible. an omnipotent being would be OUTSIDE emotional influence because they would never NOT be in absolute control of everything. thanos could not control his emotions on a number of occasions. he LOST control of himself and his power. again, these are mutually exclusive to omnipotence. citing story purposes doesn't work unless we change the definition for omnipotence for a comicbook. and if that's what you want to do, that's fine by me. just don't claim he is omnipotent. say he's . . . comicbook omnipotent, whatever that might mean . . .

Marvel >>> any and all other opinions.

not than common sense. if marvel tells me black is white, it may well be the case WITHIN their universe. but in the real world marvel's opinion doesn't matter. for purposes of their universe, they have declared black is white. that's fine and i accept it within their universe. like they can define their own version of omnipotence if they want. and maybe they have. you said in a later post that god's a happy old man. the difference even there is simple -- god BECAME man in that book. thanos did NOT become god, he used some of his power and retained his sense of humanity. good for the story -- bad for your supposed omnipotence.

now, again, if you want to argue that by marvel standards he was omnipotent, fine. but the marvel definition then is clearly very different from our real world definition. we either redefine omnipotence to allow for this clearly NOT omnipotent 'comicbook version' of the concept, or we scrap the whole discussion because it is clear thanos was NOT omnipotent in anyway beyond his declaring himself such and having other comic characters declare him as such. he also showed he was more powerful than anyone who faced him, but . . . so what? that in itself does not mean he's omnipotent -- just more powerful than the others. and if lt really DID think thanos was omnipotent in the 'true' sense of the word, why bother raising an army to challenge him? if lt truly 'wove destiny' he would have known it was futile.

thanos was a tool. he served a function. by his OWN admission he was DESTINED to play the role he did. someone omnipotent DESIGNS destiny and function. an omnipotent being is NOT subject to its dictates.

Anywho, I went through this with nvr too many times,
if you believe he wasn't omnipotent or he wasn't god,
after I presented On Panel depictions/statements, and official bio references,
well ... as you wish.

i could find a scan where thor says odin is omnipotent. you always carry on-panel evidence too far, mm. your scan of lt says HE is omnipotent, too. clearly you cannot believe that (since you think thanos is omnipotent and above him). so your scan is invalid and really doesn't support anything. if he's not omnipotent, lt doesn't know everything, and galan's scan is as valid as your own. they both demonstrate that lt is NOT omnipotent.

Ok, time to split.

if you're questioning that thanos retained his sense of himself throughout (and all the faults that come with him), then it is indeed time to split. again, it was a redemption story, we are supposed to relate to thanos so that means he NEEDED to retain his faults because he was striving to move BEYOND them. having faults of course means he was NOT omnipotent. but, whatever. i suspect you'll never change your mind. neither will i. no scan you can show can convince me he was "in the true sense of the word," omnipotent (cuz then there could not be a story) so we really don't have anything left to discuss. could he have used the power to RENDER himself omniscient, and above all the concepts that still existed within him? maybe. but failing as he did to accomplish tasks (couldn't heal the universe, couldn't control is emotions, couldn't immediately perceive he was being used and tricked) clearly says to me that he did NOT possess truly infinite power, but rather he seems to have possessed the power toaa wanted him to have, enough to serve the function he was DESTINED to perform.

speculation? of course, but makes sense to me. more sense than saying an obviously fault-laden character, who failed to not only fix the universe WITHOUT having to destroy it, but also repeatedly failed to control his own emotions, was omnipotent.

always a pleasure though, mm. 🙂

damn, that was longer than i wanted it to be. ah well, consider it my final comments on this interesting discussion. 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
But we know he didn't have 'infinite' wisdom in '92, because he was unsure whether or not the IW were trustworthy...

Originally posted by leonidas
you can cite story purposes all you'd like, it doesn't change the fact that his 'omnipotence' was repeatedly refuted by his thoughts and actions. the story is one of the worst ever written by marvel BECAUSE of the ridiculous contradictions. you say thanos was omnipotent because of his words and the words of others in the story. omnipotence by definition implies omniscience and infallibility -- he has the power to know all and see all. he was anything BUT either of those things throughout that silly series. you can't say -- "well, he WOULD have been omnipotent if the story didn't require him to HAVE to fail." failure and omnipotence are by definition mutually exclusive. he failed, therefore he was not omnipotent. there is no gray area. i've repeatedly said that he may have possessed unlimited power (though that is also shown to be untrue because again, he FAILED to fix the problem and was FORCED to resort to resetting things) but he was not omnipotent (ie--by definition INCAPABLE of failing at ANYTHING). he failed to control his temper. he failed to understand until later that he was being played by toaa, he failed to perceive the army gathering against him. he despaired, was surprised, etc . . . the story itself is a story of REDEMPTION. one who is truly omnipotent does not REQUIRE redemption. thanos retained his sense of mortality/humanity throughout the series. he was a mortal being wielding a lot of power. he HAD to retain his mortality for the sake of the story. no reader can sympathize with a 'truly' omnipotent being. as such, BECAUSE of his mortality, he was NOT omnipotent.
as far as showing you a direct quote or line saying he was limited -- well, ironically, it says thanos was limited EXACTLY the same number of times it says he "destroyed the multiverse and omniverse". you can't look at context and extrapolate for one thing, then refuse to accept context for another. that's exactly what you are doing here.well, from a very reliable source (at least he thinks so!)so, even you feel (and i agree completely) it is possible that thanos allowed something to happen subconsciously -- ie -- without his actually being aware of its happening. that could obviously not happen were he omnipotent.
i trust you are kidding, but hey, as you wish. UNCONTROLLABLE ANGER (someone omnipotent is ALWAYS in control)
DESTINED to annihilate
DESTINED to be my station
DESPERATION, DENIAL and outright FAILURE -- omnipotence does NOT fail
IMPOSSIBLE for him (doesn't matter that the story 'required it'. nothing is impossible if someone is omnipotent -- that's the definition of it)
SURPRISE. again, implying he didn't know something
UNAWARE. again he doesn't know something. omnipotence=knows all
and there are other examples, but that makes my point. thanos was powerful, not omnipotent. at least not in the true sense of the word.
and a point about bobi's take on emotions and infallibility -- it's my opinion bobi that emotions DO indicate fallibility (but lack of emotions does NOT equate to the obverse, obviously). if we are happy, it implies we have experienced a time where we were NOT happy, which implies an inability to control our emotions or the environment around us or at least an inability to prevent whatever MADE us unhappy. surprise indicates lack of a priori knowledge. anger, lack of rational control. emotions are our responses to situations that are dictated TO us. we cannot control them, they simply are. an inability to control is a fault. this implies we are fallible. an omnipotent being would be OUTSIDE emotional influence because they would never NOT be in absolute control of everything. thanos could not control his emotions on a number of occasions. he LOST control of himself and his power. again, these are mutually exclusive to omnipotence. citing story purposes doesn't work unless we change the definition for omnipotence for a comicbook. and if that's what you want to do, that's fine by me. just don't claim he is omnipotent. say he's . . . comicbook omnipotent, whatever that might mean . . not than common sense. if marvel tells me black is white, it may well be the case WITHIN their universe. but in the real world marvel's opinion doesn't matter. for purposes of their universe, they have declared black is white. that's fine and i accept it within their universe. like they can define their own version of omnipotence if they want. and maybe they have. you said in a later post that god's a happy old man. the difference even there is simple -- god BECAME man in that book. thanos did NOT become god, he used some of his power and retained his sense of humanity. good for the story -- bad for your supposed omnipotence.
now, again, if you want to argue that by marvel standards he was omnipotent, fine. but the marvel definition then is clearly very different from our real world definition. we either redefine omnipotence to allow for this clearly NOT omnipotent 'comicbook version' of the concept, or we scrap the whole discussion because it is clear thanos was NOT omnipotent in anyway beyond his declaring himself such and having other comic characters declare him as such. he also showed he was more powerful than anyone who faced him, but . . . so what? that in itself does not mean he's omnipotent -- just more powerful than the others. and if lt really DID think thanos was omnipotent in the 'true' sense of the word, why bother raising an army to challenge him? if lt truly 'wove destiny' he would have known it was futile.
thanos was a tool. he served a function. by his OWN admission he was DESTINED to play the role he did. someone omnipotent DESIGNS destiny and function. an omnipotent being is NOT subject to its dictates.
i could find a scan where thor says odin is omnipotent. you always carry on-panel evidence too far, mm. your scan of lt says HE is omnipotent, too. clearly you cannot believe that (since you think thanos is omnipotent and above him). so your scan is invalid and really doesn't support anything. if he's not omnipotent, lt doesn't know everything, and galan's scan is as valid as your own. they both demonstrate that lt is NOT omnipotent.
f you're questioning that thanos retained his sense of himself throughout (and all the faults that come with him), then it is indeed time to split. again, it was a redemption story, we are supposed to relate to thanos so that means he NEEDED to retain his faults because he was striving to move BEYOND them. having faults of course means he was NOT omnipotent. but, whatever. i suspect you'll never change your mind. neither will i. no scan you can show can convince me he was "in the true sense of the word," omnipotent (cuz then there could not be a story) so we really don't have anything left to discuss. could he have used the power to RENDER himself omniscient, and above all the concepts that still existed within him? maybe. but failing as he did to accomplish tasks (couldn't heal the universe, couldn't control is emotions, couldn't immediately perceive he was being used and tricked) clearly says to me that he did NOT possess truly infinite power, but rather he seems to have possessed the power toaa wanted him to have, enough to serve the function he was DESTINED to perform. speculation? of course, but makes sense to me. more sense than saying an obviously fault-laden character, who failed to not only fix the universe WITHOUT having to destroy it, but also repeatedly failed to control his own emotions, was omnipotent.

"it doesn't change the fact that his 'omnipotence' was repeatedly refuted"

That was enough for me.

Cause like I said:

Originally posted by Mr Master

Anywho, I went through this with nvr too many times,
if you believe he wasn't omnipotent or he wasn't god,
after I presented On Panel depictions/statements, and official bio references,

well ... as you wish. 🙂

Originally posted by leonidas
always a pleasure though, mm. 🙂

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Bottomline:

"Eternity, you must sense that Everything the Almighty was I now am,

did you ever dare demand anything from Him"

Eternity RESPONDS,

"No, but" .... (Eternity is actually acknowledging that Thanos speaks the truth)

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"And I, like He was, am now the Author of All That Will Be ...

my Will is Supreme"

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Official Handbook confirms this:

"Thanos eradicated the Order, they ... Pronounced him GOD" ...

srugdoped .... but again, as you wish.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Ah, but remember the IW are outside of destiny.

A 'truly' omniscient being knows ALL...

If said being's knowledge is/was limited in any way -- they were simply not 'truly' omniscient to begin with. 🙂

Thus,
because of the fact that LT's knowledge was limited in some fashion -- he was not omniscient in '92. 🙂

Imo, all those cute intricacies involved in the END: has to do with making a story,
otherwise, it would've been boring, with a cat that doesn't have to do anything,
so a comic where Thanos just stands there, blinks once, and end of story. 😬

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Initially, Starlin made Thanos "God" through the IG:

On Panel:

Thanos, ... "In-effect became God"

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And according to the Writer/Creator of the Infinity Gauntlet series:

Jim Starlin

(the writer/creator of the Infinity Gauntlet)

gets interviewed by Marvel Age.

Marvel Age is a Marvel title specifically designed to get the intricate details
to stories which would otherwise be compressed by time & space.

"The Infinity Gauntlet,
a story that dealt with the idea of a nihilist (Thanos) becoming God"

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Jim Starlin himself adds:

"I've done the good side of God and the bad side of God,
I've gone as far as I can with the Infinity Gauntlet"

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And as we know, the IG was nothing to THOTI

"How dare these cretins defy their Supreme Being?

Was I not Now the End-All and Be-All of Reality?

Their very existence was by My Whim"

================ You ain't lying baby ============

"Nothing remained"

This is Starlin creating "God" out of a character in comics, assertively this time!

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Just a little something, something for you true believers. 🙂

Seriously that leonidas guy needs to get a grasp on the definition of omnipotence. He thinks omnipotence means "by definition INCAPABLE of failing at ANYTHING". Well can an omnipotent being exist and not exist at the same time or can he create a rock he can't lift?

Seriously, going by his definition, if omnipotent being can't fail, then an omnipotent being can't do everything- fail in this case- and therefore is not omnipotent.

Omnipotent means all powerful or all power, omni- meaning ALL, potent- meaning POWERFUL. That's what Thanos was.

Not only that he said omniptonce means to know all things. That's omniscience, not omnipotence.

Originally posted by Galan007
Doesn't matter.

A 'truly' omniscient being knows ALL...

If said being's knowledge is/was limited in any way -- they were simply not 'truly' omniscient to begin with. 🙂

Thus,
because of the fact that LT's knowledge was limited in some fashion -- he was not omniscient in '92. 🙂

Originally posted by Air Legend
Seriously that leonidas guy needs to get a grasp on the definition of omnipotence.

😂

thank thanos you're here to steer me through these difficult waters! 🙂

He thinks omnipotence means "by definition INCAPABLE of failing at ANYTHING". Well can an omnipotent being exist and not exist at the same time or can he create a rock he can't lift?

Seriously, going by his definition, if omnipotent being can't fail, then an omnipotent being can't do everything- fail in this case- and therefore is not omnipotent.

😂

anyway, all right, i'll play along a little bit longer. i must say, i'm reaaallllyyyyyyy surprised you played the 'can he make a rock so heavy he can't lift it?' card. i could never have predicted THAT would happen . . . 😖hifty:

there are so many flaws with that very old and ever-ridiculous argument that it seems silly to go over them, but, i'll indulge you a little. 🙂

first, the idea is a paradox. it is impossible BECAUSE it is illogical. it demands that any omnipotent being (should one exist) is self-contradictory (ie can exist and not exist) and ignores the idea that they possess a nature that they must operate within. in smaller words -- in the case of the rock, it demands that a being (who is infinite) create something that is BIGGER than himself. that is an impossibility dictated by the nature of the being. your question is a trick of LANGUAGE. you are attempting to prove that omnipotence (or at least the real world definition of it) can't really exist (while at the same time agreeing apparently that thanos WAS omnipotent) by using illogic. i could ask if thursday was a fruit, what fruit would it be? nonsensical in the exact same way your questions (and all the variations of those questions -- can he make a 2-sided triangle??) -- are. even an omnipotent being cannot violate his own nature as that would be self-contradictory.

use logic to prove a point, not illogic.

and one more time -- omnipotence IMPLIES omniscience.

omnipotence=limitless power (bounded by the NATURE of the being). taken a different way, that means that the power can be used to reach ANY desired goal the being wishes that is NOT illogical. therefore as 'god' and as an 'omnipotent' being, thanos would achieve omniscience as well. it really isn't that hard.

since he FAILED to be able to fix the universe he is NOT omnipotent. that fact is logically inarguable and no scan of either himself or others saying he is omnipotent can change it. (you can try and say fixing the universe was a paradox if you want though i don't see how it qualifies, and you can call PIS but there are OTHER instances where he failed as well so THAT doesn't fly either -- failed to realize death still existed, failed to control his temper . . .)

as well, he FAILED to perceive the armies against him, so he is NOT omniscient (though there is some evidence to suggest he may have been PARTIALLY omniscient in the scan i showed), a natural corollary to omnipotence, thereby adding further proof that he was not omnipotent. again, at least not in the 'real world' sense. his attention could be DIVIDED and he can be unaware of things taking place around him. this proves he is fallible. fallibility and omnipotence are mutually exclusive (again, barring the nonsensical questions like you raised above).

don't use illogic to prove a point. it . . . doesn't work well and is actually pretty silly and childish. 😬

and truthfully, i cannot see how anyone can 'logically' deem thanos omnipotent in light of his faults and actions.

REALLY powerful? ✅

omnipotent? ❌

but hey, whatever floats you boat 🙂

ps--i discovered this as a definition of omnipotent. i think this one applies well here: All-powerful. The term is also used generically to describe numerous beings possessing vast power, which, although not unlimited, by far surpasses that of most sentient beings.

Originally posted by Mr Master

Imo, all those cute intricacies involved in the END: has to do with making a story,

otherwise,

it would've been boring,

with a cat that doesn't have to do anything,

like a comic where Thanos just stands there, blinks once, and end of story.

No, so Thanos was giving depth/conviction/and substance,
to make an interesting story.

But the bottomline is, we know Thanos became Omnipotent,
because he absorbed the LT like a mote in a storm.

The LT (that's the guy who holds the entire Marvel Omniverse's destiny in one hand)
Labelled Omnipotent and Omniscient through out his history.
Second to TOAA.

Logic would suggest that Thanos had to have/be, well ... TOAA. 🙂

And truthfully,
I cannot see how anyone can't 'logically' deem thanos omnipotent
in light of his accomplishments.
Besides Eternity and everyone else in Marvel recognizing him as such.

IMO of course. 😄

Originally posted by leonidas
and one more time -- omnipotence IMPLIES omniscience.

omnipotence=limitless power (bounded by the NATURE of the being). taken a different way, that means that the power can be used to reach ANY desired goal the being wishes that is NOT illogical. therefore as 'god' and as an 'omnipotent' being, thanos would achieve omniscience as well. it really isn't that hard.

since he FAILED to be able to fix the universe he is NOT omnipotent. that fact is logically inarguable and no scan of either himself or others saying he is omnipotent can change it. (you can try and say fixing the universe was a paradox if you want though i don't see how it qualifies, and you can call PIS but there are OTHER instances where he failed as well so THAT doesn't fly either -- failed to realize death still existed, failed to control his temper . . .)

as well, he FAILED to perceive the armies against him, so he is NOT omniscient (though there is some evidence to suggest he may have been PARTIALLY omniscient in the scan i showed), a natural corollary to omnipotence, thereby adding further proof that he was not omnipotent. again, at least not in the 'real world' sense. his attention could be DIVIDED and he can be unaware of things taking place around him. this proves he is fallible. fallibility and omnipotence are mutually exclusive (again, barring the nonsensical questions like you raised above).

don't use illogic to prove a point. it . . . doesn't work well and is actually pretty silly and childish. 😬

and truthfully, i cannot see how anyone can 'logically' deem thanos omnipotent in light of his faults and actions.

REALLY powerful? ✅

omnipotent? ❌

but hey, whatever floats you boat 🙂

ps--i discovered this as a definition of omnipotent. i think this one applies well here: All-powerful. The term is also used generically to describe numerous beings possessing vast power, which, although not unlimited, by far surpasses that of most sentient beings.

Anyways, I deleted your comments on the rock thing since you ignored the other examples and also due to the fact that it wasn't critical to the point I was trying to convey. Your argument that an omnipotent being can't fail at anything is illogical and maybe when you come to your senses you'll realize the truth in this.

Omnipotence doesn't imply omniscience. Where the hell did you get that from?
And that definitely doesn't apply to comics. Example: Titans usurping God's power and becoming omnipotent, but lacking omniscience and omnipresence, as Lucifer notes, one of the most difficult things to learn.

That eliminates your Thanos not being omniscient, therefore not omnipotent argument.

And if you picked up the nuances in Marvel the End, you'd realize that God acted through Thanos.

Thanos heals all of Marvel by starting over from scratch.

"I was the perfect candidate to be the destroyer of the universe."

God (Jim Starlin since that's how Marvel works) gave Thanos his power
to fix the Marvel universe. 🙂

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Thanos ... before he knew who's power he had!

(the Writer specifically titles it - Omnipotence

mwahaha

Oh, and the final issue, the Writer titles it ... "The Cure"

Clarifies Thanos did indeed "fix" the flaw. stoned

Originally posted by leonidas
since he FAILED to be able to fix the universe he is NOT omnipotent.

then he's not truly omnipotent. doped

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
then he's not truly omnipotent. doped

The problem was fixed. However it was done, it was fixed.
By his plan, it went the way he wanted. And it was fixed. 🙂

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
then he's not truly omnipotent. doped