Superman w/Surfer VS Gladiator w/Xavier

Gladiator would take this.

1. There is no limit on the human imagination. This is how Glads is built. If he believes he can do something WHATEVER it may be...he can. Xavier can easily tell him nothing is impossible for him.

2. Superman can only go so far with his abilities. This is because although Surfer is feeding him, it wouldn't be enough to break Gladiator's confidence due to Xavier's interference and mind control.

So unless Surfer had more than like 10+ years of constant bombarding Superman with Solar radiation for him to store, Gladiator would be more powerful....and literally the only limit he could really face is the limit of his imagination. Whatever he faced, regardless of what it was...once he faced it, Xavier would give artifically and unnaturally him the confidence to believe he could overcome it....and then Gladiator would...doesnt matter what.

Gladiator wins this.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
Gladiator would take this.

1. There is no limit on the human imagination. This is how Glads is built. If he believes he can do something WHATEVER it may be...he can. Xavier can easily tell him nothing is impossible for him.

Plus, Surfer just channeled the Crunch's energies after being smashed up. The question is not of how much solar energy Surfer can give him, but how much can Supes take... and sources say a f*cking lot. 😐

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Confidence.
Do you think Gladiator could beat Galactus?

Plus, Surfer just channeled the Crunch's energies after being smashed up. The question is not of how much solar energy Surfer can give him, but how much can Supes take... and sources say a f*cking lot. 😐

Actually it comes down to how much solar radiation and how long it would actually take Superman to reach maximum absorbtion or in other words become "FULLY charged".

Whatever it takes for Superman to get there, Xavier forcing Gladiator to believe (in Glad's mind it would be KNOWING) he can overcome a fully charged Superman...HOWEVER regardless of how powerful Superman becomes, all that it takes for Gladiator to be even stronger is to have the confidence necessary to do so. Which is exactly what Xavier is capable of. This is what makes it unfair to Kent in every situation.

Superman's powers are physically based thus will always have limits...although very high ones.
Gladiator's abilities are confidence and faith based. If he truly is convinced that he can do something he will.

Thus, Imagination+Faith (Limitless) >>>>>Physical.

Regarding Galactus, in this scenario Xavier could cause Glads to stalemate Galactus indefinitely.
in comics, Gladiator's weakness has ironically been the very thing that is his source of strength. His confidence levels.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Confidence.
Do you think Gladiator could beat Galactus?

Plus, Surfer just channeled the Crunch's energies after being smashed up. The question is not of how much solar energy Surfer can give him, but how much can Supes take... and sources say a f*cking lot. 😐

"Channeled"

Whenever I'm surfing across waves I'm going to go around saying I've "channeled the ocean"

Originally posted by horrorwolf
Actually it comes down to how much solar radiation and how long it would actually take Superman to reach maximum absorbtion or in other words become "FULLY charged".

Whatever it takes for Superman to get there, Xavier forcing Gladiator to believe (in Glad's mind it would be KNOWING) he can overcome a fully charged Superman...HOWEVER regardless of how powerful Superman becomes, all that it takes for Gladiator to be even stronger is to have the confidence necessary to do so. Which is exactly what Xavier is capable of. This is what makes it unfair to Kent in every situation.

Superman's powers are physically based thus will always have limits...although very high ones.
Gladiator's abilities are confidence and faith based. If he truly is convinced that he can do something he will.

Thus, Imagination+Faith (Limitless) >>>>>Physical.

Regarding Galactus, in this scenario Xavier could cause Glads to stalemate Galactus indefinitely.
in comics, Gladiator's weakness has ironically been the very thing that is his source of strength. His confidence levels.

Superman takes this to the bank.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
As far as we know there is no maximum limit to supermans absorption hes been absorbing yellow sun radiation for over 80k years,and this is just comical right...gladiator can stalemate galactus and other people when hes feeling good.

well...yeah pretty much sums it up. 😉

As I said, the one thing that holds back Gladiator is his own personal confidence limit....what he feels he can't do - limits his abilities...and he does have confidence limits based on what he believes he is and isn't capable of.

With Xavier, the limits are opened up in this scenario.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
well...yeah pretty much sums it up. 😉

As I said, the one thing that holds back Gladiator is his own personal confidence limit....what he feels he can't do limits his abilities.

With Xavier, the limits are opened up in this scenario.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
And id love for you to actually show that...o wait you cant at all,superman destroys gladiator.

lol Well thats the point of this thread. No one KNOWs how powerful Gladiator would if he were completely confident and truly felt he could do anything.....just as no one knows what a completely full Superman would be like on a powers and ability scale.

But I still say Imagination>Reality. and stand by that as the deciding factor here.

Superman would get pwned by Gladiator's belief. Xavier would always make him KNOW he could win, thus he would.

I know I wouldn't want to be in the universe in which this battle took place though...

Originally posted by horrorwolf
Regarding Galactus, in this scenario Xavier could cause Glads to stalemate Galactus indefinitely.
in comics, Gladiator's weakness has ironically been the very thing that is his source of strength. His confidence levels.

Well, I guess that proves that it's worthless to debate with you on the subject...

Stalemate Galactus... ❌

Originally posted by llagrok
"Channeled"

Whenever I'm surfing across waves I'm going to go around saying I've "channeled the ocean"

Learn the definition of 'channeled' and get back to me. Kthnxbia 🙂

Supes wins.

Originally posted by batdude123
barker

Superman ftw.

*Blinks*