Originally posted by BecciHas he ever left his body on his own free will? And what is to stop Jedah from eating this oh so vulnerable bodiless soul?
Sargeras possesses Pyron. Then Pyron smashes all lesser beings of DS. Then Jedah or other possible powerful DSers might kill Pyron. Then Eonar comes back to life, in case she died from Pyron- then she brings Sargeras back and they collect the scraps.
Originally posted by EvilAngelAh, true.
Yes, Invunerable.Or atleast, no one with an immortal soul has been destroyed that we know of. I think the old gods have immortal souls. They could only be trapped
Even so, they cannot be killed, but they can be wounded, Jedah doesn't just eat souls, he can attack them, that is how he kept Lilith in check.
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Has he ever left his body on his own free will? And what is to stop Jedah from eating this oh so vulnerable bodiless soul?
he destroyed his own body, just so that he could pretend to die while possessing Aegwynn.
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
All souls are immortal, or does that term mean something else in Warcraft?
It can not be destroyed.
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Ah, true.Even so, they cannot be killed, but they can be wounded, Jedah doesn't just eat souls, he can attack them, that is how he kept Lilith in check.
So does the Dreadlords, and he fought them for countless years without effort.
Originally posted by EvilAngel
Yes, Invunerable.Or atleast, no one with an immortal soul has been destroyed that we know of. I think the old gods have immortal souls. They could only be trapped
One or two Old Gods have fallen, but their souls should not be compared to the Pantheon. The Pantheon is eternal, while the Old Gods are ancient.
Sargeras is scared of the five combined. The Pantheon combined did defeat the Old Gods, if you remember. If you also did your research good enough, you should know that the Pantheon did not want to harm anyone. They were restricted by their unwillingness to kill anything or anyone.
And how is that laughable? The Dreadlord's basic ability is to attack and drain the soul of their target. Sargeras fought them for years that exceed five numbers in length. Countless if listening to the book.
Sure, they do not share the vastness of Jedah's soul abilities, but they do share the part where both attack the soul. The Dreadlord has been given quite a lot of time and this if anything is proof that Sargeras is resistant to attacks against the soul, if not even immune entirely. He was never near even any harm- not against the Old Gods, not against the to-be Burning Legion and not against Aegwynn.
Do some more reading and then get back to me with your laughing.
Originally posted by Becci1. First of all, there are 7 Pantheon members, and only 5 Old Gods(6 if Sargeras was not with them then, I am not sure). And, if what I read is true, it wasn't just the Pantheon, it was the Titan race that fought the Old Gods and the Elemental Liutenants(I know I prolly spelled that wrong), so basically, it was a race vs. 5 Old Gods and 4 Elementals(and the fodder elementals I suppose). Granted I could be wrong, this is just what I've read.
Sargeras is scared of the five combined. The Pantheon combined did defeat the Old Gods, if you remember. If you also did your research good enough, you should know that the Pantheon did not want to harm anyone. They were restricted by their unwillingness to kill anything or anyone.And how is that laughable? The Dreadlord's basic ability is to attack and drain the soul of their target. Sargeras fought them for years that exceed five numbers in length. Countless if listening to the book.
Sure, they do not share the vastness of Jedah's soul abilities, but they do share the part where both attack the soul. The Dreadlord has been given quite a lot of time and this if anything is proof that Sargeras is resistant to attacks against the soul, if not even immune entirely. He was never near even any harm- not against the Old Gods, not against the to-be Burning Legion and not against Aegwynn.
Do some more reading and then get back to me with your laughing.
2. Because you are comparing them to a being who can devour billions of souls on at least a planetary scale, who can make dimensions from souls, and affect souls across dimensions.
And wasn't his soul corroded and corrupted?
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. First of all, there are 7 Pantheon members, and only 5 Old Gods(6 if Sargeras was not with them then, I am not sure). And, if what I read is true, it wasn't just the Pantheon, it was the Titan race that fought the Old Gods and the Elemental Liutenants(I know I prolly spelled that wrong), so basically, it was a race vs. 5 Old Gods and 4 Elementals(and the fodder elementals I suppose). Granted I could be wrong, this is just what I've read.2. Because you are comparing them to a being who can devour billions of souls on at least a planetary scale, who can make dimensions from souls, and affect souls across dimensions.
And wasn't his soul corroded and corrupted?
1. 😱 7 Pantheon members. 1 corrupted. Down to 6. 6 Pantheon members. 1 new recruit. 7 again, with a rookie. 5 Old Gods.
Now, to the rest: Estimated a couple of hundred average titans on the Pantheon's side (If we are pushing the numbers). Millions and more millions of elementals on the Old Gods side. The Old Gods own armies that they created, alongside with all their elementals. They had Ragnaros, to mention one. Al'Akir, Thunderaan, Neptulon, the Elemental Spirits, etc. etc.
Whatever you do. Do NOT come and say that the Old Gods were outnumbered. Ragnaros slaughtered the average titans like flies. He more or less one-hitted any normal titan. The Old Gods were not lousy fighters, neither did they have a shortage of number. To even think about saying that the Pantheon won due to the fact that the Old Gods was only 5, is not very bright 😛 An Old God could basically scatter mountains with their blasts.
You might see the elementals as pathetic creatures and nothing but "canon-fodder", but believe me. Ragnaros and the other lords were no fodder. Neither was their lieutenants, or even the other elementals. Titans fled in fear of Ragnaros. You probably connect the average elementals with the ones seen in WoW.
DONT.
2. Lets see if I got your way of thinking right:
One man that can absorb "billions" of souls.
Millions of soldiers that can absorb souls.
One target.
Jedah may have absorbed a billion souls, but that only means that the range and width of his power exceed the Dreadlords, not that he is any stronger at doing it.
Sargeras soul was pure to the very end. It was his mind that became corrupted. When his mind was corrupted, his soul turned evil. There is no one but himself to thank for the corruption of his soul. Most certainly not the Dreadlords. Not directly, at least.
Originally posted by Becci2. Lets see if I got your way of thinking right:
One man that can absorb "billions" of souls.
Millions of soldiers that can absorb souls.One target.
Jedah may have absorbed a billion souls, but that only means that the range and width of his power exceed the Dreadlords, not that he is any stronger at doing it.
Sargeras soul was pure to the very end. It was his mind that became corrupted. When his mind was corrupted, his soul turned evil. There is no one but himself to thank for the corruption of his soul. Most certainly not the Dreadlords. Not directly, at least. [/B]
Amen to that, this should be common knowledghe to DS fans and Jedah fans, just because he can swallow more, does not mean hes actually stronger at taking souls than someone else, he just has more range
Originally posted by Becci
1. 😱 7 Pantheon members. 1 corrupted. Down to 6. 6 Pantheon members. 1 new recruit. 7 again, with a rookie. 5 Old Gods.Now, to the rest: Estimated a couple of hundred average titans on the Pantheon's side (If we are pushing the numbers). Millions and more millions of elementals on the Old Gods side. The Old Gods own armies that they created, alongside with all their elementals. They had Ragnaros, to mention one. Al'Akir, Thunderaan, Neptulon, the Elemental Spirits, etc. etc.
Whatever you do. Do [b]NOT
come and say that the Old Gods were outnumbered. Ragnaros slaughtered the average titans like flies. He more or less one-hitted any normal titan. The Old Gods were not lousy fighters, neither did they have a shortage of number. To even think about saying that the Pantheon won due to the fact that the Old Gods was only 5, is not very bright 😛 An Old God could basically scatter mountains with their blasts.
You might see the elementals as pathetic creatures and nothing but "canon-fodder", but believe me. Ragnaros and the other lords were no fodder. Neither was their lieutenants, or even the other elementals. Titans fled in fear of Ragnaros. You probably connect the average elementals with the ones seen in WoW.DONT.
2. Lets see if I got your way of thinking right:
One man that can absorb "billions" of souls.
Millions of soldiers that can absorb souls.One target.
Jedah may have absorbed a billion souls, but that only means that the range and width of his power exceed the Dreadlords, not that he is any stronger at doing it.
Sargeras soul was pure to the very end. It was his mind that became corrupted. When his mind was corrupted, his soul turned evil. There is no one but himself to thank for the corruption of his soul. Most certainly not the Dreadlords. Not directly, at least. [/B]
I'm interested Becci where did you find the information that Ragnaros slaugthered the Titans in huge numbers and that they ran from him???