The Pantheon Vs. The Darkstalkers

Started by Burning thought15 pages

exacltey, no one from knowledge is anything on a pantheon member thats for sure, especially Norgannon or Aman'Thul, I hate it when questions like that are asked, espcially when their so specific, "has pantheon ever fought a foe so large" as if it matters

"has he ever done this [insert obvious answer here]", "have they ever done that"

lets be super specific

has Pyron ever faced versal world creators with commands over many elements and forces, life, magic, time. Beings who rule their known universe and have been defending it for eons?

nopes he not done that.....

the only magic guy Pyron has faced from memory is Demitri...what happened? oh yeh he was beaten and then got absorbed.deary me

Originally posted by Burning thought
the only magic guy Pyron has faced from memory is Demitri...what happened? oh yeh he was beaten and then got absorbed.deary me

Lol, That's just ace 😊

I'm done debating bout this... this is a stomp.

I have never seen the Pantheon deal wit any thing relatively close to Pyron. I don't think the Pantheon can stop a fist the size of 1000 worlds and there is no proof that they can, plus you still got guys like Demetri, Morrigan, Anita to deal wit, who all posses magic powers.

You got guys who can tear apart other dimensional planes just by makein other dimensional planes, and rip holes into time and space wit ease.

Pantheon lose, IMO.

Originally posted by Akuma Killer
I'm done debating bout this... this is a stomp.

I have never seen the Pantheon deal wit any thing relatively close to Pyron. I don't think the Pantheon can stop a fist the size of 1000 worlds and there is no proof that they can, plus you still got guys like Demetri, Morrigan, Anita to deal wit, who all posses magic powers.

You got guys who can tear apart other dimensional planes just by makein other dimensional planes, and rip holes into time and space wit ease.

Pantheon lose, IMO.

lulz.. stomp?

You have never seen the pantheon deal with that? Me neither.. but let me ask you this.. Have you ever seen ANYTHING that the pantheon has done, other than the things you learnt in this thread?

there's no proof that he is that big either.. there's no proof that he can resist the magic of the Pantheon.. There's no proof that he would ever get anywhere near the Pantheon, as they could basically harrass him from the other side of the universe (or a seperate dimension) there's no proof that his smash would even harm them, since NONE of the Pantheon has EVER been harmed..

Seriously, Aman'Thul more or less IS time.. Tearing time is a pathetic feat compared to what he can do..

As for your little magical DS creatures and humans, their magic is pathetic.. Norgannon alone knows ALL magic.. Being magical versus the Pantheon is NOT a good thing..

Yeah, we all know your opinion..

Originally posted by Darth Extecute
- Oh yeah, try punching a guy that can phase out of existance 😂

- Well, the absolute furthest range would be when Sargeras manipulated a magical object trough a seperate dimension while at weakened state. So, basically the range is vaster than the universe.

- Titans are not supreme beings? They create worlds, they create life and death, they create the skies, mountains, seas, fire and more. No Pantheon has EVER been close of dying, and they have been in a war since almost the beginning of time. The only Pantheon that has ever been actually harmed, was Sargeras when he destroyed himself.
They also created a source of infinite magic.

- What does it matter if the Darkstalkers are beat-em-up characters or not? It really doesnt.

- A hundred tons? WOAH! I must have underestimated the Darkstalkers..
Does anyone know how much a large mountain weigths?

- How does Pyron's size help him against the Pantheon? Their vast knowledge of magic would shrink him to human size.

- Show me that his finger is that size. From what I have seen, his hand is not even the size of Earth, and believe me.. I have had A LOT of Darkstalker discussions with Pyron.. I have seen probably every picture and scene there is of him out there.

- Again, prove his size. As for the BFR, good luck with that. Eonar has teleported the group across realms before.

- Ah yes, she might die first. Pity she is the creator of nature and life then. She is basically the mightiest shaman the universe has ever seen. And guess what.... Shamans can come back to life, even after death. Sucks to be a Darkstalker then, eh?

- Norgannon has contact with all that is magical. Trapping him is the last thing you would ever be able to do. That is, if Jedah even gets the chance to use it, since Norgannon could basically create a anti-magic barrier around him when he sense something is about to happen.

- Of course it's not the close-combat soldier's job to destroy Pyron. He would deal with the lesser ones while the more magical Pantheon's deal with the big thing.

1. You seem to be under the impression the other DSers won't be doing anything at this time. The others will be attacking as well, and while all are off guard, they will be engulfed by one of Pyron's blasts or his fist.

2. Really? So because it was in another dimension, they can do it farther than a universe? Jedah BFRed the DSers from across a dimension, can he BFR anyone in the universe? Pyron's telepathy crossed dimensions, does that mean his telepathy spans across the universe? Morrigan and Jedah can teleport to different dimensions, can they teleport anywhere in the universe? The answer is no, we can't assume something like that.

3. A supreme being is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent. Belial and Anita were almost supreme beings, they just were not quite omnipotent, but they have the other Os down.

4. You made it sound like it mattered.

5. Did I say he was as strong as a Titan? No, I did not. Yet you continue to downplay the feat.

6. Really? So now we should assume they can shrink Pyron? Have they ever shrunk something that large? I didn't think so.

7. http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/arcade/d/nwpyr.htm

Pyron wearing Earth as a ring. Tho I admit now I overestimated the size of his hand. His fist is about...Neptune size I suppose. My point still stands, you keep assuming the Pantheon can do those things, have they ever doused something that big?

8. To different dimensions? Or from other planets?

9. Not really, she will just be killed again.

10. Jedah's BFR has never been hinted to be magic, it is just a dimensional warp ability, and it traps you there, Morrigan can normally traverse dimensions at will, she couldn't in the Majigen.

11. Right, because he can really solo an entire cast.

what BS is this? since when is anything in DS close to omni anything? especially potent, cient or present

Originally posted by Burning thought
what BS is this? since when is anything in DS close to omni anything? especially potent, cient or present
Belial was omnipresent in Makai, and was omniscient, he was near omnipotent.

if it was just in Makai thats neither of those ime afraid

and you cant really be near all powerful, you either are, or your not, technically that could be the only thing he is in Makai, hes all powerful considering nothing in it can stand up to him but omnipresent talking in "God" terms means everywhere, including every dimenson, since they are places, if his not in all dimensions then hes not Omniporesent

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. You seem to be under the impression the other DSers won't be doing anything at this time. The others will be attacking as well, and while all are off guard, they will be engulfed by one of Pyron's blasts or his fist.

2. Really? So because it was in another dimension, they can do it farther than a universe? Jedah BFRed the DSers from across a dimension, can he BFR anyone in the universe? Pyron's telepathy crossed dimensions, does that mean his telepathy spans across the universe? Morrigan and Jedah can teleport to different dimensions, can they teleport anywhere in the universe? The answer is no, we can't assume something like that.

3. A supreme being is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent. Belial and Anita were almost supreme beings, they just were not quite omnipotent, but they have the other Os down.

4. You made it sound like it mattered.

5. Did I say he was as strong as a Titan? No, I did not. Yet you continue to downplay the feat.

6. Really? So now we should assume they can shrink Pyron? Have they ever shrunk something that large? I didn't think so.

7. http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/arcade/d/nwpyr.htm

Pyron wearing Earth as a ring. Tho I admit now I overestimated the size of his hand. His fist is about...Neptune size I suppose. My point still stands, you keep assuming the Pantheon can do those things, have they ever doused something that big?

8. To different dimensions? Or from other planets?

9. Not really, she will just be killed again.

10. Jedah's BFR has never been hinted to be magic, it is just a dimensional warp ability, and it traps you there, Morrigan can normally traverse dimensions at will, she couldn't in the Majigen.

11. Right, because he can really solo an entire cast.

lol

I assume that the link was meant for this picture:

This picture fails.. it has been discussed before and it is not solid proof..

...Why did you only address the pic(which I can't see btw)?

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
...Why did you only address the pic(which I can't see btw)?

Because I didnt want to..

and the picture was the one with the "rings"

Please Darth take you time too do it, it would be great reading 😉

Originally posted by Darth Extecute
Because I didnt want to..

and the picture was the one with the "rings"

Expain to me your problem with the pic.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. You seem to be under the impression the other DSers won't be doing anything at this time. The others will be attacking as well, and while all are off guard, they will be engulfed by one of Pyron's blasts or his fist.

2. Really? So because it was in another dimension, they can do it farther than a universe? Jedah BFRed the DSers from across a dimension, can he BFR anyone in the universe? Pyron's telepathy crossed dimensions, does that mean his telepathy spans across the universe? Morrigan and Jedah can teleport to different dimensions, can they teleport anywhere in the universe? The answer is no, we can't assume something like that.

3. A supreme being is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent. Belial and Anita were almost supreme beings, they just were not quite omnipotent, but they have the other Os down.

4. You made it sound like it mattered.

5. Did I say he was as strong as a Titan? No, I did not. Yet you continue to downplay the feat.

6. Really? So now we should assume they can shrink Pyron? Have they ever shrunk something that large? I didn't think so.

7. http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/arcade/d/nwpyr.htm

Pyron wearing Earth as a ring. Tho I admit now I overestimated the size of his hand. His fist is about...Neptune size I suppose. My point still stands, you keep assuming the Pantheon can do those things, have they ever doused something that big?

8. To different dimensions? Or from other planets?

9. Not really, she will just be killed again.

10. Jedah's BFR has never been hinted to be magic, it is just a dimensional warp ability, and it traps you there, Morrigan can normally traverse dimensions at will, she couldn't in the Majigen.

11. Right, because he can really solo an entire cast.

1. The others are BUGS.. Anyone below Jedah is basically a crumb to the titans, and not even Jedah is much of a obstacle to the Pantheon.. The only one worth mentioning is the planet-sized bastardo..

2. The reason I say it can reach trough the universe is because they have no specific distance set on their spells. He used telepathy and magic across a dimension, which in my opinion pretty much means that their limit of range is pretty vast.

- Jedah did it from his "own" dimension. Sargeras was a "prisoner" and still used magic trough the dimension, even though he wasnt even supposed to exist.

- And who did Pyron speak to? His own creations? And from what dimension?

- Your right, we cant assume it. However, we can say that the Pantheon simply has to teleport themselves to a dimension and use magic from there. Not many DSers would be able to defend themselves, if any at all. However, this point is just stupid, since Pantheon wouldnt even have to go the distance. They would be able to fight the DS heads on.

3. A supreme benig is a being supreme in power. Supreme doesnt mean omnipotent or whatever, it just means powerful. And the Pantheon is supreme in their universe.

4. When? Where?

5. You made it sound like it mattered. I simply laughed at it, because it doesnt. Lifting 100 ton is pathetic. A titan's foot can become heavier than that.

6. They have never shrunk anything that large 🙄
Have Pyron ever beat an alliance of unkillable magical users?

7. The picture has been agreed to not be actual proof. It was a multiple pages discussion, but it has been agreed.

8. Realms

9. And live again. Trying to kill the bringer of life will cost DS a lot of valuable time.

10. Blockable or not, if he moves them, it is just proof that he cant defeat them.

11. No, he cant beat Pyron.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Expain to me your problem with the pic.

It is a "could-be"-picture.. that's my problem.. it's not a "is"-picture, since Pyron has never actually been seen that size..

Originally posted by Utrigita
Please Darth take you time too do it, it would be great reading 😉

It wont be great reading, since the entire discussion is just stupid..

Originally posted by Darth Extecute
1. The others are BUGS.. Anyone below Jedah is basically a crumb to the titans, and not even Jedah is much of a obstacle to the Pantheon.. The only one worth mentioning is the planet-sized bastardo..

2. The reason I say it can reach trough the universe is because they have no specific distance set on their spells. He used telepathy and magic across a dimension, which in my opinion pretty much means that their limit of range is pretty vast.

- Jedah did it from his "own" dimension. Sargeras was a "prisoner" and still used magic trough the dimension, even though he wasnt even supposed to exist.

- And who did Pyron speak to? His own creations? And from what dimension?

- Your right, we cant assume it. However, we can say that the Pantheon simply has to teleport themselves to a dimension and use magic from there. Not many DSers would be able to defend themselves, if any at all. However, this point is just stupid, since Pantheon wouldnt even have to go the distance. They would be able to fight the DS heads on.

3. A supreme benig is a being supreme in power. Supreme doesnt mean omnipotent or whatever, it just means powerful. And the Pantheon is supreme in their universe.

4. When? Where?

5. You made it sound like it mattered. I simply laughed at it, because it doesnt. Lifting 100 ton is pathetic. A titan's foot can become heavier than that.

6. They have never shrunk anything that large 🙄
Have Pyron ever beat an alliance of unkillable magical users?

7. The picture has been agreed to not be actual proof. It was a multiple pages discussion, but it has been agreed.

8. Realms

9. And live again. Trying to kill the bringer of life will cost DS a lot of valuable time.

10. Blockable or not, if he moves them, it is just proof that he cant defeat them.

11. No, he cant beat Pyron.

1. Donavan can probably kill one of the ones with lower defense by Silver Surfering his head, and if Jedah were to BFR them to the Majigen and then destroy it, I doubt they would live.

2. So you are assuming? You can't just assume they have unlimited spellcasting distance, that's like me assuming Pyron has unlimited absorption power.

-There is no real proof Jedah is more powerful in the Majigen.

-No, he spoke to Makai in its entire vast frame telepathically from Earth when he arrived. Both places are different dimensions.

-Sure, vast, universal? No.

3. The dictionary disagrees with you.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/supreme%20being

Notice the words omnipotent and omniscient.

4. At this point it doesn't matter enough for me to look back.

5. Yeah, and a class 100 character(who did this with one hand) with a sword empowered by 3 Pantheon elemental gods can hurt a member of the Pantheon.

6. Okay. Pyron can absorb the universe.

7. I don't care what you agreed on. The pic clearly shows Pyron with Earth and several other planets as rings right after he ate it, the other planets have clearly been there a long time, he can and has done it.

8. ......What is a realm then in Warcraft lingo?

9. I guess Pyron could also absorb her essence.

10. No, it is proof he can defeat them a different way. Few people can beat Juggernaut in a direct fight, so they have to BFR him. Also, he can destroy the Majigen after he sends them there.

11. Something we both agree on. Though you made it seem like he was more powerful than Pyron.

Did you know that a Pantheon can function without a physical body?

I know Sargeras has, but to what extent? I know he can possess babies, but what else?