its certain enough that Pyron is massive, the chances are, distance does not matter, also the spell casts wherever kain can see it seems, although range is difficult to factor considering blood omen was a top down view game but it was as far as he can see, but i doubt range is a factor at all considering pyrons size hes likely to be in range of anyone
Originally posted by Becci
Thing is in this case, Kain will not see Pyron. He is too big to be seen, also it is a difference between seeing something a mile away, and seeing something a planet away.And Pyron can simply speed-blitz the planet from out of sight to out of sight again.
how will kain not see pyron? if hes close to the planet kain will see him...like a big sun
kain gets a resurrection in that case, resurrects behind pyron and posseses him
Originally posted by Becci
He would not see Pyron. Yeah sure, he is a big sun, but all Kain would see would be an enormous fiery shadow.And have Kain ever resurrected himself in plain space before?
what do you mean? kain would see him either way, pyron being as big as the sun far away means kain can see the same as we do from Earth, and Pyron being close, Kain will just see a cosmic energy mass like a wall in front of him, if Kain cant see pyron, then pyron wont be able to see kain and so neither will really work, kain would be too small for pyron to see
the thing that represents kains resurrection is checkpoints dotted around, so with that gameplay mechanic out of the way, he should be able to resurrect anywhere he damn pleases, hes not been in space before ofc, his adventures consist of a planet not floating around in space, either way he cannot die, so he either resurrects somewhere, or an attack does nothing but thats if pyron is far enough to build up momentum to hit the planet and destroy it, if Pyron is close enough to absorb it, then kain can attack pyron, if Pyron is far away, then that gives kain time to prepare by shielding himself, teleporting through a dimension to ender the area where Pyron is etc etc
Originally posted by Becci
See him or not, it honestly doesnt matter. Kain has never attacked such distance before, and he has shown no ability that he is capable of doing so. There is a huge difference between seeing something on the ground, and seeing something that is planets away.
kain has the dimension emblem, he could do it from a dimension away, why could he not do it planets away? Kain wins in this team either way simply because he gets a resurrection, so even if hes destroyed once, he can come back and possess pyron from any way he chooses and from distance.
not really, if its far away but large then its not much diffrence, the size makes up for it, like we can see the sun, but its far away, if pyron is close, then kain will know hes there and will be able to see/effect pyron, pyron would have to be quite far away to be out of range from having his body possessed, if pyron is not a factor in the fight because he cannot see kain and vice versa then kain could take the rest of the team with ease, pyron is the only threat because of his size ofc
either way, Pyron would not destroy the planet before kain can shield, and if he did, it makes no diffrence because thats only one of two of kains lives, giving kain the element of surprise where he resurrects
Originally posted by Burning thought
when does he destroy dimensional barriers or more imortantly gas? i dont remember him attacking gas.....also whats Darkslayer style?, Royal guard, Trickster, Gunslinger, swordmaster are the styles i know from DMC3
Kain moves his hand or his eyes flash and Pyron is under Kains control and kains body is in a shield, Dante gets swatted
lmao.......
what you smoking?
wtf? as if you explain anything or debate much at all and you ask others to explain? lmao......you must be smoking two things at the same time
In DMC4 they also say that Dante surpassed Sparda also he uses Yamato to cut a small building sized stone in half from about 200 meters.
Originally posted by Estacado
Darkslayer is a DMC4 style which he get's after getting Yamato (Virgil's sword) which can slash through dimensional barriers and is the key of the Underworld also in DMC 4 the faust and mephisto demons have gas based bodies which can pass through solid matter.In DMC4 they also say that Dante surpassed Sparda also he uses Yamato to cut a small building sized stone in half from about 200 meters.
yes ive seen that video, strangely FF esque like how Sephiroth and cloud slice through things from far away
so Darkslayer can slash through gas? hmm interesting, can you show me a mephisto demon plz
i told you, its not the same thing, Sephs possession is based around lifestream in bodies or geostigma from what ive heard, not to menstion, the thing he would be trying to infect pyron (who is energy himself) is like a droplet going into a great ocean, Seph would never know before its too late to direct the neg lifestream at Pyron anyway, you cant imediatley know Pyron is trying to destroy you until its too late and that big fist has moltenised Sephiroth
who says he has neg lifestream anyway, if so then kain has Chaos armour as well, i mean since when does Sephiroth carry some negative lifestream around with him thats considered part of his natural loadout? if he does then please show me
You're Example sucks. Mine's better.
Say you have a stream or river. That is the lifestream. Then comes along 500 cups of piss. That's Geostigma. It infects Lifestream. Now look at an Ocean or Sea. Take that river and dump it into the sea or Ocean. MOST of it will be infected. Now it can be fully infected, but Kain would need to abandon it lest he get severly ass kicked by Seph's mind. If Kain abandons it, Pyron dies and Kain loses his possession body. If he tries that with Jedah, Seph will do the same thing except it will infect Jedah quicker.
Furion you're sucks too IMO.
I see the Jenvoa Cells like a virus in a heathly body. They jumping a cell, then multiply, multiply until they can no longer feed on that cell, then spread to another area.
Aeris's holy would be the white blood cells.
Plus my analogy explain how the the amount of Negative lifestream become so huge.
Though i stand by what i said in previous threads. Unless you considering Souls and the lifestream to be one and the same, this is a moot point
Originally posted by EvilAngel
Furion you're sucks too IMO.I see the Jenvoa Cells like a virus in a heathly body. They jumping a cell, then multiply, multiply until they can no longer feed on that cell, then spread to another area.
Aeris's holy would be the white blood cells.
Plus my analogy explain how the the amount of Negative lifestream become so huge.
Though i stand by what i said in previous threads. Unless you considering Souls and the lifestream to be one and the same, this is a moot point
Originally posted by Furion
You're Example sucks. Mine's better.
Say you have a stream or river. That is the lifestream. Then comes along 500 cups of piss. That's Geostigma. It infects Lifestream. Now look at an Ocean or Sea. Take that river and dump it into the sea or Ocean. MOST of it will be infected. Now it can be fully infected, but Kain would need to abandon it lest he get severly ass kicked by Seph's mind. If Kain abandons it, Pyron dies and Kain loses his possession body. If he tries that with Jedah, Seph will do the same thing except it will infect Jedah quicker.
no because jedah cna turn to liquid and would never be hit by something as puny as neg lifestream, and no your anology is not as correct imo, lifestream is a droplet in comparison to Pyron who is a Ocean, a droplet of pi$$ or even a whole dump of waste is unlikely to change much of the entire ocean, by the time its done anything Sephiroth is a gonner along with the rest of his team, and without pyron Kain no longer needs to worry about this match at all, he can solo the rest of them
Originally posted by Furion
How?
Kain: You can't touch me! I got Chaos Armor!
*Seph cuts off Kain's head*
Seph: Where's your helmet.
😐
more like
Kain: you cant touch me! I go Chaos Armor!
*Seph cuts off kains head*
Seph: ha! pwned!
*Kain resurrects behind Sephiroth*
Kain: indeed
*Sephiroths head slips off and Sephiroth falls to the ground*