Originally posted by SHMWhich would be basically mindless and soulless following orders of Seph so Kain can do shit to him. Oh I forgot, doesn't Kain have the power of do and kill whoever I want now?
Yes BT, Sephiroth still has a soul. But the problem is finding where it is and destroying him, before being killed by the NL that is everywhere, destroying the planet.But to tell you the truth, Sephiroth will not attack him. Kain is not worth the effort. He will just create a warrior/monster from the NL to deal with Kain.
Originally posted by Classic NES
In their human forms defy gravity with double jumps.@ BT
He doesn't have to have resistance to magic to survive encounter with it. Your claiming he's susceptible to magic because he lost to demitri. But, he never showed any weakness towards it. considering he defeated several Makai. He even effected Bishimons magical energy with his powers alone.
With double jumps there are discs of magical energy shown to jump on. So the example isn't correct, but anyways...
Super Sparda form was already discussed. Dreadnaught form (an evolution of Royal Guard from DMC4; see Dante's RT) is also immune to stuns,TK (on-panel proof, Nero failed to affect it with Devil Bringer TK which can replicate any feat of Kain's TK).
As for reaction and movement speed, that was already discussed.
It seems we're all wasting our time here, guys...
Originally posted by SHM
Yes BT, Sephiroth still has a soul. But the problem is finding where it is and destroying him, before being killed by the NL.But to tell you the truth, Sephiroth will not attack him. Kain is not worth the effort. He will just create a warrior/monster from the NL to deal with Kain.
finding it? if Cloud found it and stopped sephiroth for a length of time, Kain would do so handily and the Negative lifestream is slow, ive seen how it moves up, its just like a big black cloud, conisdering in this matchup kain would be a long way away, and also considering ive not seen Sephiroth while as a spirit using the NL then your point is moot until you show said evidence
when has he created monsters and what kind of mosnters? lame ones kain would prob deal with with ease, and Sephiroth not attacking kain will be his big mistake then, since kain will attack sephiroth, thats the thing, kain is not too arrogent (okie hes arrogent but not enough to let go an enemy), but as i said, Sephiroth will be stomped by Pyron, Sephiroth is nothing in this fight
Originally posted by SHM
Pyron and Jedah will not even notice Kain is there. That's how pathetic he is compared to them.
do you even know what DS is? ......you see now this is hating to the max, learn to debate please then come back to this thread instead of spouting BS without meaning
Originally posted by Rewmac
You don't have to tell me that. But you know everybody who says Kain looses is a Kain hater and a troll plus a fanboy. 😖hifty: 31
yes they are without any good reasons otherwise i may as well go into any thread and say a random person loses without knowing the character, the fact is none of you know Kain, and none of you are debating "shrug"
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Super Sparda form was already discussed. Dreadnaught form (an evolution of Royal Guard from DMC4; see Dante's RT) is also immune to stuns,TK (on-panel proof, Nero failed to affect it with Devil Bringer TK which can replicate any feat of Kain's TK).
As for reaction and movement speed, that was already discussed.It seems we're all wasting our time here, guys...
yes and its been shown to be vulerable within every canon evidence outside of gameplay.....Dreadnought form has to have energy from blocking and such to activate...so this form is irrelevent
yes it has...so....
yes you are, which is a shame so learn to debate and come back, or simply concede, you cant beat me in this thread with the same rubbish youve been bringing up and that goes to everyone whos posted in here, the constant trolling of "zomg kain is nothing to this guy [inset smilie]" is not debating or arguement, its trolling which i should report
And darling, have you watched the video with Super Sparda form? Normally Dante is as tall as normal tall man- not taller than 2 metres, his demonic form is only slightly taller than that, but looking at relative size of buildings in Sparda form it's more like 3 metres tall or such. It's the hugest form Dante can transform into.
Also Super Sparda form\Dreadnaught form are immune to TK.
Also darling, if you want me to talk debating lessons from you...it's you who never showed proof in that debate, acting as if Kain is invinsible, has superhuman speed that makes anyone there look like slugs etc., etc. It's you who is needing the lessons, badly. And you're getting reported.
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
And darling, have you watched the video with Super Sparda form? Normally Dante is as tall as normal tall man- not taller than 2 metres, his demonic form is only slightly taller than that, but looking at relative size of buildings in Sparda form it's more like 3 metres tall or such. It's the hugest form Dante can transform into.
Also Super Sparda form\Dreadnaught form are immune to TK.Also darling, if you want me to talk debating lessons from you...it's you who never showed proof in that debate, acting as if Kain is invinsible, has superhuman speed that makes anyone there look like slugs etc., etc. It's you who is needing the lessons, badly. And you're getting reported.
the gameplay one where he destroys those pathetic creatures and the gorilla thing? thats the first boss isnt it? yes, but ive also seen the canon cutscene of Mundus beating him down and pericing his body, Dreadnought you need to block and charge up the royal guard energy before it can be used, also where is Super sparda immune to TK? never seen that before, wasnt aware TK has ever been used on super sparda?
i dont give lessons, Kain will be when he has Pyron at his command and a shield around himself, your acting as if their only a few metres from eachother, please quote where i said he has superhuman speed that make people look like slugs. No thats the "toddler" inside you having to attack back, ive not done anything wrong either or are you reporting me for reporting you? lol.....or am i being reported for beating everyone in this debate, its Estacado and Rewmac who are trolling 🙂
Just watch the first movies of the DMC4 game. Dante let Nero beat him like hell and he laughed at him....How would you kill him then? With all the footage and gameplay we've seen from Kain (I mean feats) are still lower that what Dante showed so far. Same goes for Kratos, Sephiroth and Pyron. This thread has no meaning since all of us who try to bring some sense in it fail to make this thread actually good, because of Burning thought only wants to prove his right. That's fine, but not this way. His so called debating skills are nowhere now, he failed at the comic book versus and now he is invading here. There is no debate until he can listen to what others have to say.
Burning thought you don't even know what trolling is. You call me and Esta trolls. Why? Coz we have clearly the opposite opinion about this match. Plus we brought straight facts. And yet you said no one knows Kain the way you do? True. No one thinks he can beat gods. We don't overrate any character we simply bring facts, feats and debate into this thread where you only weapon is personal insult which infantile.
Originally posted by Furion
except you forget BT, The Nega-Lifestream will infect Pyron. Then Seph will just boot KAin out of Pyron and use Pyron to punt Kain into a sun.
you cant boot kain out of Pyron, when kain leaves a body he posseses, it dies, so Pyron would be out of the match IF this little lifestream thing succeeds in corrupting a sun sized entity, thats what the lfiestream does, corrupts does it not? if its like a dirty stream going into a clean stream, the dirty stream (Neg lifestream) is corrupting the clean one by making it dirty, however if its not going into a clean stream, but a clean ocean (pyron) then its not going to effect it half as much
Originally posted by Rewmac
Just watch the first movies of the DMC4 game. Dante let Nero beat him like hell and he laughed at him....How would you kill him then? With all the footage and gameplay we've seen from Kain (I mean feats) are still lower that what Dante showed so far. Same goes for Kratos, Sephiroth and Pyron. This thread has no meaning since all of us who try to bring some sense in it fail to make this thread actually good, because of Burning thought only wants to prove his right. That's fine, but not this way. His so called debating skills are nowhere now, he failed at the comic book versus and now he is invading here. There is no debate until he can listen to what others have to say.
thats the problem, you consider just because i disagree that a certain weak skill your bringing into a battle is going to overwhelm kain does not mean ime ignoring it, you bring up Dantes speed where you forget the distance between the characters is going to have to be a long way considering pyrons size, and then its you who are assuming the distance anyway, if their a long way apat, Dantes speed is not a factor...your simply hating on kain, with lack of knowledge on kain, and then you bash me because you do not like the fact your argument fell short also what do you mean i failed at Comic book VS? i should think so, ime not a comic book user, and when did i fail? or are you talking about years ago, ive not really been in comic book for ages, Estacado has failed many many times in there and ive not even seen you around in there at all, and ime not invading here..lol....what sort of statement is that, ive been here all along, its not like ive gone from comic VS to Games, i was in games from the beginning, i went to comic, then i came back to games and here ive been....
i dont need to prove ime right, i know ime right until someone proves me otherwise, which ofc no one on here has brought up a good argument yet, ive countered every ability the opposing team has so far.
Originally posted by Rewmac
Burning thought you don't even know what trolling is. You call me and Esta trolls. Why? Coz we have clearly the opposite opinion about this match. Plus we brought straight facts. And yet you said no one knows Kain the way you do? True. No one thinks he can beat gods. We don't overrate any character we simply bring facts, feats and debate into this thread where you only weapon is personal insult which infantile.
maybe i dont, however what ime calling trolling is posting irrelevent information or spiteful posts, such as "lol BT is fool and fanboy "add smile" or something on that level several times like Estacado and youve done it one or twice without argument, the spite is one thing but doing it several times is what ime calling trolling even if it isnt, if it isnt, then its wrong either way
no you have the opposite opinion, but youve got no real argument at the moment, youve brought straight facts, facts that dont win you the match, infact what facts have you brought? all ive seen is "[insert team character here] pwns kain" thats not argument or fact in this debate. God is a title, Kratos can beat Ares, hes a God and it clearly says in the game that Kain is also given the title GOd, so technically its God against God so what?.....throwing around the God title is pointless, debate the characters with their abilities and perhaps youll get somewhere
no my weapon is better debating skills, and ive not insulted anyone from what i remember, where did i insult? if ive insulted someone then its nothing compared to several insults against me already such as "fanboy" and constant spiteing
now debate please, or dont..but certainly dont troll
Originally posted by Furion
No, because the description said, the body dies do to no soul in it. Seph would be in there, so there would actually be a soul in there.
if kain leaves the body before the corruption can finish then it would be pointless and its BS that it would corrupt the whole body of a sun sized entity, its tiny in comparison, also make up your mind, one minute guys are saying lifestream is not souls, and its diffrent and then when the argument is useful to you the lifestream is souls.....
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
This is spite and should be closed, Kain is nothing on these characters without soul powers.
hes got soul powers, just not soul suck and he has inspire hate which is something on these characters since it would mean these characters are against eachother 😉