You realize that fox would win, because you automatically assume that chief would stay still. You forget that he has an over shield that is resistant to ballistic rounds, and also has a motion tracker that follows at any speed. You forget that he can run up to 35 MPH with being winded. MC has near perfect accuracy and sees bullets in slow motion. You act like Chief would just sit there and watch. Sheesh.
slow motion wouldnt help its real motion that you got to worry about lol jk i know what you mean. but even still being able to see something doesnt mean you can react to it and you dont even know if he can see fox's movements mc has never shown speed fast enough to react to fox, also the same argument with the motion sensors and the overshield, he is to fast to react to and would keep hitting him till the shield is gone then cut his head off, and no im not assuming mc is standing still im just assuming that it wouldnt matter if he moved
You're also assuming that Grey Fox has the strength to cut through a metal about 500 years more advanced than his, and don't give me that vibrating sword crap. I've worked with swords before, and all a vibrating blade would do is break from the slightest blow. When a sword vibrates, it's called flutter, just like a plane wing.
im sorry but you cant say that the vibrating blade wouldnt work in a fictional story just because it wouldnt in real life, this person wouldnt be able to deflect bullets in real life either but we arent arguing that, also its not a vibrating sword its hi freaquency that heats the blade not making it vibrate
shags, ive worked with swords before too, but ure misunderstanding vibrations. it does make the sword hot but thats not its main function. the point of a high frequency blade is that its frequency will change to resonate with the natural frequency of the object it is cutting, as such, there will be no perpendicular movement of the substance being cut which would hamper the progression of the blade as it goes on to slice through the object and the very smal vibrations would actually NUDGE the blade forward at a microscopic level making the cut much easier and cleaner{kinda like hammering a nail can drive a nail through a substance where continuous force wudnt really be able to.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
shags, ive worked with swords before too, but ure misunderstanding vibrations. it does make the sword hot but thats not its main function. the point of a high frequency blade is that its frequency will change to resonate with the natural frequency of the object it is cutting, as such, there will be no perpendicular movement of the substance being cut which would hamper the progression of the blade as it goes on to slice through the object and the very smal vibrations would actually NUDGE the blade forward at a microscopic level making the cut much easier and cleaner{kinda like hammering a nail can drive a nail through a substance where continuous force wudnt really be able to.
That's Shaggs, with two 'g's.
You have stated a theory of blades that no blade forger has ever produced. I don't want to hear any crap about how you have done it or seen it done. I've studied about what you are talking about, and it's ALL theory. To produce a sword capable of that, you'd need VERY sensitive machinery to make extremely precise cuts to the blade and all of that. It could NEVER be produced by hand.
Originally posted by niduin
im sorry but you cant say that the vibrating blade wouldnt work in a fictional story just because it wouldnt in real life, this person wouldnt be able to deflect bullets in real life either but we arent arguing that, also its not a vibrating sword its hi freaquency that heats the blade not making it vibrate
That still wouldn't explain how it would penetrate his energy shield, AND his extremely hardened metal armor. You know, the armor 500 years ahead of his own. Also, his bones are coated in metal as well, making cutting through him even more difficult.
Originally posted by Shaggsagain you cant claim it wouldnt work in a fictional story i mean what about the energy shield or the plasma weapons they are in there and that tech doesnt exist, sure thats in the future but mgs is supposed to be futuristic (not to be confused with "in the future"😉 so the tech isnt supposed to exist its just supposed to be what it is
You have stated a theory of blades that no blade forger has ever produced. I don't want to hear any crap about how you have done it or seen it done. I've studied about what you are talking about, and it's ALL theory. To produce a sword capable of that, you'd need VERY sensitive machinery to make extremely precise cuts to the blade and all of that. It could NEVER be produced by hand.
Originally posted by Shaggswell you cant claim that the technology is higher either, sure its in the future but they are also in diff universes, so the tech in fox's timeline might be higher compared to mc on the same time period, i do agree that the tech is deffinatly higher than in mgs im not saying that im just saying that you cant say that the armor vs sword is a win for the armor just cuz its in the future. beseides its the strength behind the blows that would lower his shield and cuth thru the armor, not the swords tech sure it would help but over all it would be the strength of the blows, as for the bones being coated with metal, you know that there are gaps between your bones right? he isnt wolverine if you get stabed in the heart it would kill him
That still wouldn't explain how it would penetrate his energy shield, AND his extremely hardened metal armor. You know, the armor 500 years ahead of his own. Also, his bones are coated in metal as well, making cutting through him even more difficult.
i said it on the last page, id say this is prety damn impresive
Originally posted by niduin
fox has deflected bullets from an m4 at point blank range with complete ease, then later he deflected bullets from a mounted mini-gun that has up to 4000 rpm and up to 3000 feet per second, and he was dodging and deflecting those bullets and that is way more impresive as far as speed goes than anything that mc has done or could do
How is that more impressive?
Automatic rifle ammo moves in "Slow motion" to the Chief's eyes, and he casually swatted an anti-tank missile fired at him from a jet fighter. He also straffed through the same jet fighter firing a 50. calibur mini-gun at him.
So, how does deflecting bullets and dodging, ya know, bullets, be more impressive than... dodging bullets?
3000 feet per second is less than half a mile per second.
Most modern day assault rifles fire bullets at about 600+ miles per hour, some much more, which is TEN miles per second.
So... yeah if you want to use that minigun feat, keep in mind that bullets that most likely move over TWENTY times faster than that, move in "slow motion", compared to the Chief.
So by your logic, the Chief can easily dodge bullets that move twenty times faster than the bullets GF can easily dodge.
ok first of all, the info i got for the gun in mgs it was just a gun that i thought it would be, probably shouldnt have used it as my proof and im sorry, but anyway swating a missile is not that impresive (considering who we are talking about) and i will say it again just because bullets move in slow motion does not mean he moves faster than fox, and straffing is WAY different than dodging and deflecting, im talking about standing in one spot not movind and not getting hit by one bullet, and also considering that the metal gear rex was the top of the line walking nulear missile silo that was meant to be able to deffend agains anything, i would assume that the mini gun would also be top of the line, but ill have to check back on that (probably play the game)
ok i found out what the gun was that he was dodging from, it was a 30 mm vulcan cannon, and i looked it up and i could only find a 20 mm vulcan cannon and that one has 3500 ft/s and 6000rounds per min, so its 2000 more bullets per minute faster than i said and 500 ft/s more than i said not to much faster for distance but increadible for rounds per minut AND thats a weaker gun that the ones used on metal gear rex, so show me a time that mc dodged 100 bullets a second and ill beleive that he could be faster than fox