god didn't create the universe

i just had an apithany. i was watching dr. cox's commentary on Sunshine. th big bang happnned, god didn't create the universe. if there is a god, he was created by the big bang, born so evovled that he controls aspects of th universe. what do you think?

Originally posted by The big EH
i just had an apithany. i was watching dr. cox's commentary on Sunshine. th big bang happnned, god didn't create the universe. if there is a god, he was created by the big bang, born so evovled that he controls aspects of th universe. what do you think?

It was much later. Humans created the god of the bible. 😉

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
It was much later. Humans created the god of the bible. 😉

Co-signed.

You must realize that back then people needed an explanation of natural phenomena in the world. They had a somewhat limited scope of reality, the types of things that are rather easily explained now to them was mysticism, or divine power. Shaky is correct, Humans did create the Bible and God to explain these types of things.

Think about it this way, before monothiesm there was polytheism. People who believed in multiple gods were far more out of touch with reality than people who believe in a single god. What's the next step?

"born so evolved" at the creation point of the universe?!

This is why a little science and an active imagination tinged with religious overtones is almost always a bad thing.

Anyway, nice theory. The universe created God, not the other way around. I could get behind something like that.

Originally posted by The big EH
i just had an apithany. i was watching dr. cox's commentary on Sunshine. th big bang happnned, god didn't create the universe. if there is a god, he was created by the big bang, born so evovled that he controls aspects of th universe. what do you think?

I think the line "In the beginning, God created the Heavens and the Earth" refers to the Big Bang.

Originally posted by Admiral Akbar
People who believed in multiple gods were far more out of touch with reality than people who believe in a single god.

Says who though? What makes a Hindu or a Navajo more out of touch with reality than a Christian or a Muslim?

If you can accept a natural origin to the universe, why would you even need God?

Originally posted by inimalist
If you can accept a natural origin to the universe, why would you even need God?

Because I believe God is natural and the two concepts are inseperable.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Because I believe God is natural and the two concepts are inseperable.

natural as in can be observed and measured like other natural phenomena?

Originally posted by inimalist
natural as in can be observed and measured like other natural phenomena?

Natural, as in came into existense without a factory or a patent.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
I think the line "In the beginning, God created the Heavens and the Earth" refers to the Big Bang.

Says who though? What makes a Hindu or a Navajo more out of touch with reality than a Christian or a Muslim?

Let me clarify, when I said multiple gods I meant Gods of Earth, Fire, Water, ect..In that case are you going to tell me that the idea of Thor- God of Lightning is on par with the idea of a God who created the universe?

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Natural, as in came into existense without a factory or a patent.

strange...

so something that is supernatural is really natural so long as human industry didn't create it (or, should I say human industry after the invention of factories or patents)?

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Natural, as in came into existense without a factory or a patent.

But the god you are talking about would not match the biblical god.

I don’t see God as being natural at all, all things “natural” come from something and is made of something.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
I don’t see God as being natural at all, all things “natural” come from something and is made of something.

Remove all things, and what is left?

Originally posted by Admiral Akbar
Co-signed.

You must realize that back then people needed an explanation of natural phenomena in the world. They had a somewhat limited scope of reality, the types of things that are rather easily explained now to them was mysticism, or divine power. Shaky is correct, Humans did create the Bible and God to explain these types of things.

Think about it this way, before monothiesm there was polytheism. People who believed in multiple gods were far more out of touch with reality than people who believe in a single god. What's the next step?

ive actually stated this facta couple of times in other threads....but no one responds to it 🙁

Originally posted by The big EH
i just had an apithany. i was watching dr. cox's commentary on Sunshine. th big bang happnned, god didn't create the universe. if there is a god, he was created by the big bang, born so evovled that he controls aspects of th universe. what do you think?

Originally posted by chickenlover98
ive actually stated this facta couple of times in other threads....but no one responds to it 🙁

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Remove all things, and what is left?

Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
Dude, you're so d33p and 3dgy. How were you not discovered as a child prodigy?

Probably because nobody who believes really cares.

it just struck me....your a douchebag.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
An un-natural god?

No. What is left is the Mystic Law. But I was asking what you thought would be left. A natural god?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
No. What is left is the Mystic Law. But I was asking what you thought would be left. A natural god?

Since something can't be created from nothing then he couldn't create it therefore if he does exist he would have been created.