i agree. i even liked val kilmer's acting as batman. i thought he was pretty good...or atleast decent. Nicole kidman...never liked her but didn't mind her that much to be honest. the ony problem with Batman Forever was Tommy-dumbass-overrated-crapass-Jones as two-face. that was the only thing that left a bad taste in my mouth regarding the movie. other than that, even I liked Batman Forever............for the most part of it anyway.
The best batman movie was Batman Begins (of course). before that it was Batman Forever imo.
I hate ALL the burton/schumacher batman movies.That was a nightmare for me that I finally woke up from with batman begins.the one and only true batman movie.but of those four batman movies made before batman begins,batman forever for me is the only one that i can sit through without getting disgusted with it.batman forever is really the only halfway decent batman movie made of those 4.
Having very recently watched all the Batman movies again here is my stance on Batman Forever. Now for me Batman Forever is pretty watchable compared to Batman and Robin and it is because of the following reasons.
1. Val Kilmer- Bruce Wayne/Batman- I thought that Val Kilmer was quite good as both Bruce and Batman. I felt that he was able to balance loads sides of Bruce Wayne like the business side of Bruce Wayne, the playboy Wayne and most importantly the Bruce Wayne still driven by the death of his parents to go out night after night fighting crime. His Batman was very good also especially his voice and he seemed to have the right physical built for Batman as well.
2. The introduction of Robin- I thought the intro to Robin in this movie was very good ripped straight from the comics and the costume was not bad apart from those "bloody nipples" as Christian Bale put it in his 2005 speech at the MTV movie awards for accepting an award for best hero.
3. The love story between Chase and Bruce Wayne- I did not mind this and was a damm lot better then the love story done in Batman Begins despite everything else it got right I felt this was one of the flaws in Batman Begins. Anyways the love story between and Bruce was very interesting and another thing I found interesting was that throughout the film Chase was going on a journey into the Psychology of Bruce Wayne and truly discovers that he is not what he is on the outside.
But overall I think the film did more wrong then right like the neon, costumes, Jim Carey as Ridder, Tommy Lee Jones as Two Face and the dumb plot about the flippen box. Plus it frustrates me why the cut scenes were cut because they just made the good bits of the film richer and a lot better.
So there you go people my stance on Joel Schumacher`s Batman Forever imo it is pretty watchable compared to the terrible B&R but still pretty bad as its bad moments outweigh its good moments as well as aspects.
i really liked val kilmer's portrayal of bruce wayne. especially when he tells the story about falling in the well, and all of that. forever has some pretty amazing rope scenes too. didn't like the over colourful batman or robin. i actually liked kidmans character as the doc. didn't like the villians though. overall, film was just ok.
oh and i love seals - kiss from a rose... love that song...
Originally posted by endrict
Jim Carrey's The Riddler stoled the show big time....from this role he could be the perfect Joker.
Ive read comics with the Riddler. The Riddler doesnt even act like that. The director just made him act like the joker.
Originally posted by steverules
IMO I didn't really like Riddler...two face coulda been better
They both sucked. None of them behaved like their comic counterparts, they just based it on Jack Nicholsons Joker.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Ive read comics with the Riddler. The Riddler doesnt even act like that. The director just made him act like the joker.They both sucked. None of them behaved like their comic counterparts, they just based it on Jack Nicholsons Joker.
Well, I felt Carrey's Joker was an attempt to re-make Frank Gorshin's Riddler... It didn't work too well, but it was ok...
Batman Forever is a guilty pleasure for me... When I was a wee little kid, it was my favorite movie... A few years ago, I despised it almost as much as Batman and Robin... But now, I think it's an ok movie... It isn't revolutionary like Batman 89, it isn't controversial like Batman Returns, it isn't horrible like Batman and Robin, and it isn't awesome like Batman Begins... It's just a big piece of mainstream fluff, forever tied to the summer of 95...
Batman Forever is when I realized something had gone horribly wrong with the Batman franchise and I was just a kid then. When I saw them showing me unnecessary shots of Batman's ass and Val Kilmer's crap acting, crap Batman suit and Nicole Kidman's completely over the top robe as Batman's lady of the movie I was like...OMG this can't get any worse. How do you go from Batman Returns to this crap?
But it did get worse. Batman and Robin.
Originally posted by DarthLazious
Lets just say they half assed the movie.The Dark Knight will be better so all the old Batman Movies shouldn't matter.
Batman Begins was a great movie that really followed the comics and was true the character of Batman.
Originally posted by Bat Dude
Well, I felt Carrey's Joker was an attempt to re-make Frank Gorshin's Riddler... It didn't work too well, but it was ok...Batman Forever is a guilty pleasure for me... When I was a wee little kid, it was my favorite movie... A few years ago, I despised it almost as much as Batman and Robin... But now, I think it's an ok movie... It isn't revolutionary like Batman 89, it isn't controversial like Batman Returns, it isn't horrible like Batman and Robin, and it isn't awesome like Batman Begins... It's just a big piece of mainstream fluff, forever tied to the summer of 95...
Ha, I just realized that I typed ''Joker'' instead of ''Riddler''...
tommy lee jones is an idiot. the guy ruined two-face.......he was practically a hyperactive jackass shouting and screaming like a moron and kissing riddler's keister. i hated that.
it was two-face, people. THE two-face, one of the most pyschological and complex villains of batman series. they ruined him totaly. Jim Carrey as Riddler was pretty good though....but i think his backstory sucked.
~Sado