Jim Carrey sucked as the Riddler too. Everything about Batman Forever sucked IMO.
Horrid Batman
Wooden Bruce Wayne
Bright Neon Gotham sucked
Stupid storyline
Riddler sucked
Two Face was raped
Dr. Chase Meridian needed a vibrator.
Robin's entrance sucked
The Batmobile sucked.
The nipples sucked.
The random shot of Batman's butt sucked.
The ending sucked.
That stupid ending shot with Batman and Robin running sucked.
Originally posted by SelinaAndBruce
Batman Returns and Batman is still noteworthy IMO. Not completely faithful to the comics but I think deserves credit for reviving Batman out of the pure camp form he was in.
Yeah, that's how I look at them, too... But they're still good movies in their own way...
However, MY cut of Batman and Batman Returns are possibly the greatest Batman movies ever conceived... lol (everyone check them out, btw)
Originally posted by Bat Dude
Yeah, that's how I look at them, too... But they're still good movies in their own way...However, MY cut of Batman and Batman Returns are possibly the greatest Batman movies ever conceived... lol (everyone check them out, btw)
I'm really not that uptight about Batman. There's only been a few complaints I've had over the years. Just give me a good enjoyable film and I'll accept some liberties.
I just watched Batman Begins again recently for the first time since it came out at the movies since it is being broadcast on cable now since the dark knight comes out and was just reminded how awesome this movie is.Man this movie is 10 times better than than those crapfest Burton/Schumacher Batman movies put together COMBINED! THAT was the kind of batman movie i was expecting to see back in 89 and the fans deserved to have.those other batman movies were a bad dream and a nightmare I have FINALLY woke up from thanks to Batman Begins. 💃
Originally posted by Mr Parker
I just watched Batman Begins again recently for the first time since it came out at the movies since it is being broadcast on cable now since the dark knight comes out and was just reminded how awesome this movie is.Man this movie is 10 times better than than those crapfest Burton/Schumacher Batman movies put together COMBINED! THAT was the kind of batman movie i was expecting to see back in 89 and the fans deserved to have.those other batman movies were a bad dream and a nightmare I have FINALLY woke up from thanks to Batman Begins. 💃
You copy and pasted that, didn't you 😉
I really think Batman Begins is kind of overrated. I like it and everything but to me it's still not the definitive Batman movie. It's closer to the comics than the other movies but I still think it missed a beat and it has an advantage having to follow the crap that is Batman and Robin, anything would look good by comparison.
But I still love it. I just think the fanboys overhype it. I personally don't find it very rewatchable though
Originally posted by Sado22
i agree. i even liked val kilmer's acting as batman. i thought he was pretty good...or atleast decent. Nicole kidman...never liked her but didn't mind her that much to be honest. the ony problem with Batman Forever was Tommy-dumbass-overrated-crapass-Jones as two-face. that was the only thing that left a bad taste in my mouth regarding the movie. other than that, even I liked Batman Forever............for the most part of it anyway.The best batman movie was Batman Begins (of course). before that it was Batman Forever imo.
Are you kidding me ! hating on Tommy Lee Jones!!! he was excellent pic and hilarious as hell!....
all s*#t aside the only thing that started to throw me off about Batman Forever & Batman & Robin (if no one noticed) ... is that they started to make Gotham to look like somme giant outdoor night club!
i mean WTF is that about...there were more neon light outside than at a gay nightclub! oh and lets not forget the killer gang member that walk around in glow in the dark paint! ha...yea cuz a bunch of hard core killer B's paint themselves up b4 going out every night to walk around streets that are conveniently powered up with black lights!
GTF Outta here with that horse s*#t i guess since Tim Burton got a little to dark with the first 2, they decided to brighten it up a bit huh!
Oh & who can forget the "Bat American Express card" @ that rediculous auction!
LMFAO!!! 000OOooOOohhhhh The 90's !
Originally posted by SelinaAndBruce
Two face is not supposed to be funny. The problem is everyone saw Jack Nicholson's Joker and thought this was their chance to ham it up on camera. But at least Jack actually gave a solid performance overall. Tommy Lee Jones embarrassed himself big time.
True he's not typically a funny character but he does have his occasional make you chuckle outburst,...(the guy is a schizo!) *scit-so-frenic* 🙂
any way the reason i accept his performance, (which wasnt bad) is because remember that in Bats 3 & 4, they tried to make it all bubble gummy !!! campy if you will! at the time it was a modern version of the original series from the 1960's. sure there were no *BAMS & POWS* but take a look at its resemblance
...the Duo making public appearances to talk to reporters and @ public auctions-owning a Bat American Express card-making corny ass punch lines while fighting-corny villain portrayal-the Villains making even worse corny ass punch lines & trying to be funny! its all updated from the 60's version!
GTF Outta here! we all know this not to be the true B-Mans M.O!
but thats what they tried to play it off as. i mean me & my friends get a kick of watching that stupidity...the lines are so gay u just have to laugh! its like WTF he just actually said that s*#t! LOL!
So anyway IMO thats why i dont find his acting bad, it was just an all around corny writing scheme for the flicks!
Burton had it at a decent tone with the first 2,(just like B-Man Begins is dark toned) but then again all Burtons films are all pretty dark anyway!
I never liked Batman Forever. There was nothing funny about it. It was just embarrassing IMO and I felt that way as a kid when I saw it. The first Batman movie I remember seeing clearly was Batman Returns though I know I saw Batman 1989 too because I remembered being terrified of Nicholson's Joker as a child but I couldn't remember the movie as a whole since it did come out when I was 4, lol. So going from Batman Returns to Batman Forever was a mind freak and not a good one.
Originally posted by SelinaAndBruce
I never liked Batman Forever. There was nothing funny about it. It was just embarrassing IMO and I felt that way as a kid when I saw it. The first Batman movie I remember seeing clearly was Batman Returns though I know I saw Batman 1989 too because I remembered being terrified of Nicholson's Joker as a child but I couldn't remember the movie as a whole since it did come out when I was 4, lol. So going from Batman Returns to Batman Forever was a mind freak and not a good one.
i know what you mean! to me it was like oh cool!....wait WTF! LOL!
F'ing "Night Club Gotham" LMAO! HA HA!
Originally posted by SelinaAndBruce
I really think Batman Begins is kind of overrated. I like it and everything but to me it's still not the definitive Batman movie. It's closer to the comics than the other movies but I still think it missed a beat and it has an advantage having to follow the crap that is Batman and Robin, anything would look good by comparison.But I still love it. I just think the fanboys overhype it. I personally don't find it very rewatchable though
Batman Begins is the ONLY one I find rewatchable.well Batman 89 as well but thats only because I fastforward through the scenes that dont have kim basinger in them. 😄 I dont find it overhyped at all.as i said it was the kind of batman movie I was expecting to see back in 89 and felt I got screwed because I was robbed of having that experience I was expecting.Its not the perfect batman movie since they still are using that infernal tank for the batmobile. 😠 But other than that,thats really the only negative about the movie.The other four have countless ones that can go on forever.
Originally posted by Mr Parker
Batman Begins is the ONLY one I find rewatchable.well Batman 89 as well but thats only because I fastforward through the scenes that dont have kim basinger in them. 😄 I dont find it overhyped at all.as i said it was the kind of batman movie I was expecting to see back in 89 and felt I got screwed because I was robbed of having that experience I was expecting.Its not the perfect batman movie since they still are using that infernal tank for the batmobile. 😠 But other than that,thats really the only negative about the movie.The other four have countless ones that can go on forever.
I don't want to start this old argument again, but Begins had a lot more wrong with it than just one thing...
1. Ras Al Ghul wasn't like the comics (this is just nitpicking, but if Burton bashers can say that about Penguin in Returns, I have every right to expose that flaw in Begins)
2. Batman didn't save Ras (the comics version would at least try) This one I could go on and on about... It's like, Bruce preaches about how "no one is beyond saving" all throughout the movie, and then he refuses to save Ras... That's one of the most hypocritical things I've ever heard... I mean, he didn't "kill" him per se, but he DID go against his "code", which is something Batman NEVER does, no matter what...
3. Bruce deliberately destroyed the monastery, knowing that there were hundreds of ninja in there that would die (again, it's kinda just nitpicking, but if Burton bashers can say that about blowing up Axis Chemicals, I can say that about the monastery)
It's still an awesome movie, though (not as good as mine, though 🙂)
Originally posted by Bat Dude
I don't want to start this old argument again, but Begins had a lot more wrong with it than just one thing...1. Ras Al Ghul wasn't like the comics (this is just nitpicking, but if Burton bashers can say that about Penguin in Returns, I have every right to expose that flaw in Begins)
2. Batman didn't save Ras (the comics version would at least try) This one I could go on and on about... It's like, Bruce preaches about how "no one is beyond saving" all throughout the movie, and then he refuses to save Ras... That's one of the most hypocritical things I've ever heard... I mean, he didn't "kill" him per se, but he DID go against his "code", which is something Batman NEVER does, no matter what...
3. Bruce deliberately destroyed the monastery, knowing that there were hundreds of ninja in there that would die (again, it's kinda just nitpicking, but if Burton bashers can say that about blowing up Axis Chemicals, I can say that about the monastery)
It's still an awesome movie, though (not as good as mine, though 🙂)
I think Nolan has done countless things I didn't approve of as a Batman fan but I am not as anal as some are. If it's a good watchable movie I go with it. I am also a big reader and many of the movies I see aren't faithful adaptions of the books I've read but I deal if it's a good movie.
All the bitching about Burton's movies is pretty funny considering what Nolan gets away with just because he got to reboot a franchise that became a huge joke. To me they both took pretty unnecessary liberties but I enjoyed both movies so I'm pretty good with it. I just laugh at the idea that Nolan's is the definitive Batman. My definitive Batman movie doesn't have a nobody character like Rachel Dawes stinking up the screen and Ras Al Ghul training Bruce Wayne 😆
And my definitive Joker isn't just some freak who puts on clown make up either. But if the movie is good, again I'll deal and just look at it as a specific interpretation of Batman on its own and a movie that is either good or bad.