Revan vs Anakin

Originally posted by 0°Mandalore°0
Read my post above.

No, sorry, but the fact that you think Windu, Yoda, and Anakin would be taken out by Revan tell me just how ignorant you are.

And I never said Revan was inexperienced or out of potential, for christ's sake. Btw, I'd hardly consider Bandon 'very powerful'.

read my post. I said he would kill mace. I didnt say he would kill yoda. Mace is different. He is just a Jedi with a unique combat style. I dont think mace would be able to kill and dominate an unbeaten sith lord, who undoubtedly encountered Juyo in his adventures (juyo is an early form of vapaad)

In a game mace would be a HUGE boss mob(this is an analogy), but in the end, Revan would take him.

Anakin was beaten by Obi wan, and luke.
Dont say that it was sircumstances of the duel that was the main factor. Descrimination is one of the greatest lightsaber skills. What to do and what not to do often makes up the results of a hard saber duel. anakin made a stupid move. he was unqualified to fight at that time a jedi like obi wan. I hate obi wan btw no fanboyizm towards him. or revan.

Never... I will never join your n00bish cynicism of Revan. He was not a god. Powerful being, yes. very powerful. but if he was not powerful enough to at least match obi wans skill in taking out anakin, then they had no business making a game out of him...

and you think mace is a god if we are going there... VaPaad is just a unique lightsaber ability.

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
read my post. I said he would kill mace. I didnt say he would kill yoda. Mace is different. He is just a Jedi with a unique combat style. I dont think mace would be able to kill and dominate an unbeaten sith lord, who undoubtedly encountered Juyo in his adventures (juyo is an early form of vapaad)

In a game mace would be a HUGE boss mob(this is an analogy), but in the end, Revan would take him.

Anakin was beaten by Obi wan, and luke.
Dont say that it was sircumstances of the duel that was the main factor. Descrimination is one of the greatest lightsaber skills. What to do and what not to do often makes up the results of a hard saber duel. anakin made a stupid move. he was unqualified to fight at that time a jedi like obi wan. I hate obi wan btw no fanboyizm towards him. or revan.

Yeah, right. Towards Kenobi I believe you, but towards Revan? Please.
I have more arguments, but I won't bother.
Believe me, I also thought Revan owned everyone else. You just have to trust me.

Seriously man. Revan is no god. Hes not even my favorite sith. I just have a thing about... like you totally saying that mr. kenobi could totally do something he couldnt. Seriously, the jedi wouldnt know what they were dealing with if the spirit of revan attacked them.

why would I trust you? and I didnt say EVERYONE else. Your obsession for mace windu is insane and your contempt for the ancient sith or jedi is really annoying. seriously, your a fool if you dont think that revan, in obi wan's place, would not have won.

I dont have to sit and hear your crap.... Revan doesnt own all, but he sure could really own a few of your jedi that you are in love with (mace and anakin)

so bye

I won't argue with you, why bother, you won't change your mind... for now. I'm sleepy now so I'm outta here.

Spent a good time arguing with you, mate... seriously.

yea u too. even thou I was right... lol. you need to back up a bit thou from the path of "revans a noob"ism. I think you underestimate him alot.

Well, I don't think I do. But let's discuss this another day, shall we?

k

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
lucas totally didn't know what his co. was doing, LOOK AT GUNGGUNGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
Hoorah
(Claps Heartily)

THANK you... finally someone aggrees with me... everyone else swoons when you say NJO luke....

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
Ok man... so I didnt attach the word "major" to force sensetive in the galaxy... He killed every opposing MAJOR force sensetive in the game... Revan would own anakin all out. Anakin was not a Master Jedi. Anakin In the zone is pretty awesome stuff but cant stand up to Revan... Revan would use his force to totally own Anakin if we "dont know anything about his saber skills"

Anakin was not even CLOSE to the most powerful of his erra...

The vapaad doesnt count one bit... was duku weaker because he used makashi?

I dont care what teqnique you use when you fight, you will still only win if you are very skilled in that teqnique.

As for "the likes of Yoda, Mace, Kenobi, and Sidious to compete with" I dont see anyone there who anakin would win against.... Kenobi is defenitely the bottom of the lot and won against anakin. yes I consider the use of discretion a saber skill, not a "luck thing" the discretion and pride required to take a leap like that over a jedi master makes anakin at an all time low in my opinion. After all, they teach most of the wisdom and discretion thing before you pick up a lightsaber. this is called "form Zero"

this foolish pride of In the zone anakin would be a weakness easily exploited.

revan would own, no doubt. If anakin were to fight yoda, he would use, no doubt. if anakin were to fight mace (who you whine about vapaad so much with) he would lose. if anakin were to fight against kenobi, he lost.
anakin would be a sliced up pile of dung.

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
"revan might have done much" is an idiotic understatement of your incapable mind. Revan could have beat obi Wan. probably. Revan also could have beat mace probably. Revan would have a very hard time with sideous. I am not sure who would win.... I am a great fan of Revan but I dont think he could beat sideous without them both dying.

Revan Vs Yoda?... hm... Idk.

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
seriously, no contest.

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
and the mere fact that you dont know much about revan's saber skills says very much about you.... in the cutscene at the begining of the game he was holding off multiple jedi very well and would have won... had it not been for malak. I seem to remember Bastilla saying that they couldnt have taken him out without malak. this means very literally that revan has extreme power with the saber as well as with force. did you even play the game?

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
Freedon nad might take yoda. Exar Kun might take yoda... these are a few old ones.

Vapaad is the darker side of the Jedi. Most Jedi who practice it fall to the darkness easily. IT is enjoying the thrill of the fight, fighting so fast it looks like you are striking in multiple places, and putting your feelings into every stroke. It makes your lightsaber a thing of art and war.

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
dude... stfu. I dont care if they were average jedi. he was amaizing and could take anakin. Im tired of you @#$%@ making these battlehardened Sith Lords seem like little daisys that will be mowed down by a wack from a clone wars Jedi.

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
and vapaad greatly sacrifices defence for offence...

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
no... you seriously are in fact, belittling Sith that Were seriously written to be very very powerful. If kotor was really meant to be a incredibly easy fight and just a hunky dory padawan fighting padawan as you make it out to be, it wouldnt be a game. Revan wouldnt be the only star wars game toy that was made into an official action figure.

If revan was in fact the piece of crap that couldnt stand up to any of the major Movie figures that you make him out to be, the whole game would be a very weak sith lord beating an even weaker sith lord. The fact that you stick to the fact that anakin would beat revan so easily and that revan is inferior to most of the Jedi Masters in ROTS makes you completely ignorant as far as I am concerned.

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
and this is, in fact, a good argument. you are arguing that a sith lord that is very powerful, able to accomplish many feats is like a tootsie pop ready to be sucked by anyone in rots. this really shows that you are biased to the movie jedis because revan could probably easily kill most of the Jedi you have said are able to kill revan.

Revan was not inexperienced or out of potential, or even at the length of his abilities in the game. he killed MANY sith and Jedis, even in a row, spontaneously, and many very powerful sith and jedis (brandon and malak for 2)

I need you to take into consideration how much you have in fact totally underestimated revan.

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
all you say is anakin yoda and mace. Anakin is weaker and did not stand up to either mace or yoda and was taken out by obi wan. Mace would have been killed after a long and hard fight with revan. Revan has altogether WAY more power then mace. The vapaad thing would have failed against revan because Revan was the embodiement of sith power and was able to defeat all of the most powerful people of his erra (and dont say its different because they had been in the same kind of war torn thing...)

your amaizing fanboy thing for anakin with no reference to his real skills is starting to tick me off. anakin is amaizing! anakin killed a bunch of average jedis in a temple! anakin was turned into a chunk of molten flesh! anakin was turned into vader! anakin was beaten back by a farm boy! A Ancient (unbeaten) Sith COULDNT kill anakin!

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
read my post. I said he would kill mace. I didnt say he would kill yoda. Mace is different. He is just a Jedi with a unique combat style. I dont think mace would be able to kill and dominate an unbeaten sith lord, who undoubtedly encountered Juyo in his adventures (juyo is an early form of vapaad)

In a game mace would be a HUGE boss mob(this is an analogy), but in the end, Revan would take him.

Anakin was beaten by Obi wan, and luke.
Dont say that it was sircumstances of the duel that was the main factor. Descrimination is one of the greatest lightsaber skills. What to do and what not to do often makes up the results of a hard saber duel. anakin made a stupid move. he was unqualified to fight at that time a jedi like obi wan. I hate obi wan btw no fanboyizm towards him. or revan.

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
Never... I will never join your n00bish cynicism of Revan. He was not a god. Powerful being, yes. very powerful. but if he was not powerful enough to at least match obi wans skill in taking out anakin, then they had no business making a game out of him...

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
why would I trust you? and I didnt say EVERYONE else. Your obsession for mace windu is insane and your contempt for the ancient sith or jedi is really annoying. seriously, your a fool if you dont think that revan, in obi wan's place, would not have won.

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
I dont have to sit and hear your crap.... Revan doesnt own all, but he sure could really own a few of your jedi that you are in love with (mace and anakin)

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
so bye

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
yea u too. even thou I was right... lol. you need to back up a bit thou from the path of "revans a noob"ism. I think you underestimate him alot.

Lol, I'm not used to this type of posting. But I must respond, just because I fail to see why mentioning Vaapad is worshipping Windu.

Revan is better then Mace and Anakin? Plausible. Not proven, by any means. He's good, I'll grant you that. Windu is good. Skywalker is good. But it's hard to compare fighters to each other when they're 1,000 yrs apart.

Revan's battle hardened skill and power can just over-ride an entire form of lightsaber combat along with an experienced Jedi master...why? You listed one detail that mentioned vaapad's lack of defense. I'm pretty sure you mean Juyo. Vaapad does not lack defense, and uses trace techniques of Soresu and Makashi when defending as well. Okay, sure, Windu isn't Kenobi, but his defense is not bad...may I even presume good. You know the basics of Vaapad (though you, like everyone else, seem to be confused with Juyo lol). I assume you've read shatterpoint, then? If so, you recall the part when depa displayed deep vaapad as she deflected high-speed repeating blaster bolts from multiple directions and focused them into a few square inches from a few ship-lengths away? That's an example of Vaapad combined with Shien, Soresu and Jar'kai.

To be truthful with you, I agree Revan was probably better than Windu, but mentioning Revan's spirit is just ridiculous. 😂

Originally posted by caedusrulesall
I really don't want to start a flame war, but I will make sure that a whole kriffing series of novels (NJO) can overcome simply Lucas' word.

Again and your posting means jack shit when lucas already stated he would have been MORE powerful than NJO luke meaning it refutes your bullshit claims.

What GL says = number 1 priority, meaning NOTHING from the EU can debunk it, nothing especially from you.

Post again and i WILL make it my personal responsibility to humuliate you.

yes I consider the use of discretion a saber skill, not a "luck thing" the discretion and pride required to take a leap like that over a jedi master makes anakin at an all time low in my opinion.

I agree. That was a totally lame thing for Anakin to do.
However, if it had succeeded then he would have won as we see in ROTS the game. Anakin is better than Kenobi.

Also since Revan was something of a genius and was a master manipulator I think that he would be able to totally psyche Anakin out and make him ballistic. I mean it really doesn't take much. He did contemplate slaughtering lots of politicians simply because Padme didn't meet him straight away.

But using what we do know about the combatants, there is no way in which Revan could defeat Anakin in an all-out fight.

Revan was the strongest of his era, sure, but did he have the likes of Yoda, Mace, Kenobi, and Sidious to compete with? No.

No. She had the likes of Sion, Malak, Exar Kun, Traya, Ulric Qel'Droma, Nomi Sunrider and Nihilius (probably the greatest in terms of feats of power) to compete with.
If she was the Best out of all of that then she would totally castrate that psycho and sent him back to his bitches (Padme AND Palpatine, you know its there, the sexual tension)

THANK you... finally someone aggrees with me... everyone else swoons when you say NJO luke....

I HATE that blond loser. I wish he'd just give up and die already.

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11

He killed everyone force sensetive that was alive during the period he lived in.... but then so did anakin... almost... pluss i truly believe that the Ancient Sith Are Far more powerful than any of the more recent.

Really, we have seen the ancient sith do nothing except technology aided force feats and throw a brick with tremendous force.

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11

so, maybe Revan might have to use a Emergency Medpack, but he would probably make easy work of anakin.

Again clear minded anakin would TOOL revan in a saber combat.

A few points here:

1. one of the main ways eras are separated is by major conflicts and wars. So I don't consider the jedi or the great sith war and the jedi of the jedi civil war(aka kotor jedi) to be from the same era. A good sith that can compare to the PT elite would also be Nihilus

2. Luke beating Vader. Luke beat Vader by using the darkside and vader was not going all out. Further more Luke even ADMITS that Vader could have crushed him if he tried.

2. Obiwan beating Anakin was because Anakin's emotions/arrogance came into play and because of how wlel Obiwan knew his fighting style: As said in the rots novel

Blade-to-blade, they were identical. After thousands of hours in lightsaber sparring, they knew each other better than brothers, more intimately than lovers; they were complementary halves of a single warrior.

Revan wins the fore
Anakin wins the saber contest
All out can really go either way but if anakin gets to engage revan is saber combat the wat he did vs dooku than Revan would be in major trouble.

to be one of the most powerful jedi in the 25 000 year history

That group of 'the most powerful' could extend to hundreds. Its far from conclusive. And Revan would Tame Dooku like he was a little poodle.
Which he is.
Rascist too.

Originally posted by Darth Exodus
That group of 'the most powerful' could extend to hundreds. Its far from conclusive. And Revan would Tame Dooku like he was a little poodle.
Which he is.
Rascist too.

Originally posted by Darth Exodus
We know that they both beat at least one Sith Lord each and both became a Sith lord at some points in thier lives. We know that they were both Saber and force prodigys. We know that Anakin was a psycotic sociopath and Revan was a genius. Etc

No. She had the likes of Sion, Malak, Exar Kun, Traya, Ulric Qel'Droma, Nomi Sunrider and Nihilius (probably the greatest in terms of feats of power) to compete with.
If she was the Best out of all of that then she would totally castrate that psycho and sent him back to his bitches (Padme AND Palpatine, you know its there, the sexual tension.

Yes, they both were Sith Lords, does this tell us how one could beat the other? No. They were saber prodigy, yes, but does this tell us how one is superior to the other? No. Yes, one was a psychopath and the other a genius, but does this have to do anything with their skills? No.

Don't be ridiculous. Firstly, let me remind you, Qel-Droma lost his connection to the Force. Secondly, what could possibly make you think Sunrider could even compete with Yoda or Windu?
Now, the Jedi Exile was able to defeat Sion and Traya, and he was no more powerful than Revan or Anakin. What makes you think they're even close Yoda? Have they ever proven their worth in battle? Whatt's each one greatest feat? Yeah, cool, Sion is 'immortal', but this doesn't help you much if you are just an above-average Sith thinking he is a god. Yes, Traya can wield three lightsaber at the same time, but even so, the Exile was able to defeat her. Anything else?

EDIT: Nihilus is the ONLY one who would be very diffcult to defeat for Revan.

the foolish and Insane anakin would be toyed with by the superior intelligence and force power of Revan. in lightsaber combat, it would be very easy for revan to make anakin very pissed off and make the same mistakes he did on mustafar.

Making "In the Zone Anakin" make a mistake or overestimate himself is probably one of the easiest ways to beat him.

Seriously, if you say that Revan sux at lightsabers, or wasnt a great duelist, you have to realize the error in this. he would at least be able to hold anakin off and use Dun Moch and basic trickery to make him make mistakes. Anakin "in the zone" is just a pissed off whiny teenager with prodigious skills.

Revan could even kill him by chopping off his legs and dropping the mind bomb. yes, bane got it from a holocron of revan so dont contradict me there. revan invented the thing. then revan could fly away.

All revan would have to do to kill anakin is this

woozh
kzcht
woozh
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Rev: Hey anakin....
Anakin: what *grunt*
Rev: You know what I saw Obi wan and padme doing last night?
Anakin: ???
Rev: well what do you think shell do when you leave her alone so much for palpatine?
anakin: WTH? I thought she loved me!!!
Rev: no She has been hanging out with alot of guys since you started dating palpatine...
woozh kzzt
Rev: btw, shes totally into palpatine and I saw him making eyes back at her in senate last week....
woozh
kzzt
bwarm
Anakin: NOOOOOO!!!! You turned her against me!!
Rev: yea yea... Not me, palpatine. the other sith lord...

*Anakin runs screaming into a porta potty and sticks his head down the seat and drowns himself because his two True loves dont love him anymore*