What would Star Wars be without the Jedi?

Ok, if you think about it, the Jedi (or force users) make Star Wars stand out. Without them, the plot would not have developed along the same lines, the series would be a rudementary Sci-fi, and it just would not have been as popular... In truth? It would be similar to the origional Battlestar Galactia (Never was one for the new series with the female Starbuck, and the cylons being human-constructions) Anyway, here is one point I have.

No Jedi = No Sith

Odds are, there would not even be the force, or atleast it wouldn't be known. The origins of both Jedi and Dark Jedi come from a planet (Can't remember it's name) where there were warring tribes of "Magicians".[1] As the Jedi, and their teachings spread across the galaxy, the Dark Jedi did also. Eventually the Dark Jedi were banished, and they came across planet with a tribe known as "The sith". Well through inter-breeding, and learning the sith "Magic" The sith as we know them were born. [2]

[1] Darth bane: The Rule of Two
By: Drew Karpyshyn
[2] The Golden Age of the Sith
By: Keven J. Anderson

Thoughts?

It would be a war without stars.

It would be Star Wars; a Western fantasy in space, without a religous faction really. Think Cowboys and Indians, the Man With No Name. Yeah, you got Han, Aliens (the 'other'😉 and Boba Fett. That's your Star Wars, right there.

It would be Firefly but with Aliens.

Originally posted by Morridini
It would be Firefly but with Aliens.

I dunno about that, River is pretty much your Jedi-element there, dealt differently, true, but the similarities are there.

it'd be like the first half of Empire Strikes Back, until luke reaches dagobah

or Ice Pirates..
(Which IMO, was a great movie!)

SW would not have the same popularity without Jedi and Sith. That's what makes it different from other sci-fi movies and series. When you come to think of it, almost everything about SW is Jedi. Most comics are stories about Jedi or Sith, the movies main character are always Force-users, most books tell a story about a Jedi or a Sith, or something that has to do with the Force. NJO series: Jedi-based, LOTF series: Jedi based, POD: Sith based, ROT: Sith based, etc.. Even some games are based on stories of Jedi or Sith, like KOTOR, KOTOR 2, Jedi Outcast, Jedi Academy or The Force Unleashed.
If you take the Jedi out of Star Wars, there wouldn't be nearly as many plots, stories, characters, etc.. And comics would virtually disappear.

Star Wars without the Jedi would be a total disaster of a series. And not worthy of me paying to see it.

considering the minimal amount of time dealing with the jedi theme in ep iv, it probably still would have been a success anyway.

It would be just another crappy sci-fi that takes place in space.

so basically

Star wars minus (the force, jedi.etc....) = star trek.

crapola

Crapola indeed...

puke

Star Wars without Jedi = Star Wars with good dialogue, perhaps?

Just think about it kids 🙂

Originally posted by exanda kane
Star Wars without Jedi = Star Wars with good dialogue, perhaps?

Just think about it kids 🙂

Dude, without the Jedi you wouldn't have ANY of Obi-wan's greatest lines.

"For over a thousand generations the Jedi were the guardians of peace and justice in the galaxy. Before the dark times... Before the empire."

The plot would have been completely different also, for instance, Anakin wouldn't have as easily joined the emperor, since he was doing it for the power to save Padme`

Originally posted by Sesse
It would be a war without stars.

Or would it be stars with out the wars?

Originally posted by Schecter
considering the minimal amount of time dealing with the jedi theme in ep iv, it probably still would have been a success anyway.

However, without the Jedi the backstory of how the Empire came to be would have to be completely different.

Originally posted by LORD JLRTENJAC
Dude, without the Jedi you wouldn't have ANY of Obi-wan's greatest lines.

"For over a thousand generations the Jedi were the guardians of peace and justice in the galaxy. Before the dark times... Before the empire."

The plot would have been completely different also, for instance, Anakin wouldn't have as easily joined the emperor, since he was doing it for the power to save Padme`

Kid, those aren't great lines. While among the better of the SW dialogue-catalogue, still, in relation to anything else, they're pretty poor.

I don't even think you have a valid argument for this discussion. Not that anyone with the same opinion as you couldn't put forth theirs better, but until you take a contextual look at the situation, get an understanding of genre and take an objective viewpoint, anything you say sounds like it came from the mouth of a complete idiot.

Wait til that special someone arrives and handles your opinion better than you, then perhaps there might be some truth to your argument.

It would be like having a blank shoot out.

Originally posted by exanda kane
Kid, those aren't great lines. While among the better of the SW dialogue-catalogue, still, in relation to anything else, they're pretty poor.

I don't even think you have a valid argument for this discussion. Not that anyone with the same opinion as you couldn't put forth theirs better, but until you take a contextual look at the situation, get an understanding of genre and take an objective viewpoint, anything you say sounds like it came from the mouth of a complete idiot.

Wait til that special someone arrives and handles your opinion better than you, then perhaps there might be some truth to your argument.

And maybe you should actually pay attention to what I am saying instead of glancing at my posts and arguing with them.

Originally posted by LORD JLRTENJAC
Dude, without the Jedi you wouldn't have ANY of Obi-wan's greatest lines.

"For over a thousand generations the Jedi were the guardians of peace and justice in the galaxy. Before the dark times... Before the empire."

The plot would have been completely different also, for instance, Anakin wouldn't have as easily joined the emperor, since he was doing it for the power to save Padme`

Or would it be stars with out the wars?

However, without the Jedi the backstory of how the Empire came to be would have to be completely different.

point i was making was that it still would havelikely been successful since it was really ilm's visual effects which wowed people back then. the iconic scene of the day was not obiwan/vader's duel but rather the opening space assault and the battle of yavin. would it have kept people's interests for 2 trilogies without the jedi? thats another story.

Originally posted by LORD JLRTENJAC
And maybe you should actually pay attention to what I am saying instead of glancing at my posts and arguing with them.

But you're speaking utter bollocks, what do you expect me to do?

You're just citing occurences and events within the Star Wars universe which bear no relation as to why you think Jedi make Star Wars special. Every "Sci-Fi" franchise has their own "Jedi," even Star Trek probably has a couple of superhuman monks about over the course of its poorly scripted history.

Please, stop indulging me with how many lonely nights you have spent pouring through Star Wars comics and actually solidify or create your argument, as you are coming across as a complete loony.