EVANGEL94's Final Slugfest Tournament Discussion Thread: Questions, Comments, & Talk

Started by Soljer76 pages
Originally posted by King Kandy
I think by the point where you're reduced to restating your points, you've lost this argument.

Of course not.

Someone seems to be incapable of reading. I asked for some feats that make Mogo Galactus level, and then he asked me my opinion on a random versus fight.

So, clearly, he must not have heard me correctly the first (or second, apparently) time.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I think by the point where you're reduced to restating your points, you've lost this argument.

Yeah feats beat common sense nowadays.

Human with GL ring = 6 points
Sentient Planet with GL ring = ???

I wouldn't call something very relevant to the discussion "random."

It was a good point. If you aren't addressing it, it's because you can't.

Originally posted by Soljer
Of course not.

Someone seems to be incapable of reading. I asked for some feats that make Mogo Galactus level, and then he asked me my opinion on a random versus fight.

So, clearly, he must not have heard me correctly the first (or second, apparently) time.

Context, those were all various examples of character tiers presented in this tourney. Galactus is in this tourney, but the one that Strange and Thing took.

Sooo

Do you think Strange and Thing could take Mogo?

That's the Galactus being used in this tourney.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Yeah feats beat common sense nowadays.

Human with GL ring = 6 points
Sentient Planet with GL ring = ???


Better yet... Sentient Planet WITHOUT GL ring = ??? (around twenty or more.)

Originally posted by King Kandy
Better yet... Sentient Planet WITHOUT GL ring = ??? (around twenty or more.)

Because if a planet can think, it's automatically tip-top-tier?

If the Planet Earth had a consciousness, it'd be pissed at us for ****ing it up.

However, it would remain incapable of preventing us from ****ing it up.

By feats, Hal Jordan, Kyle Rayner, Guy Gardener, Kilowog, John Stewart all are more powerful than Mogo.

Prove otherwise, or Mogo is exactly where he belongs.

Yeah, for durability purposes alone Mogo is above Strange/Fate level (the very top of 6 IMO). Planet busting isn't as common a feat as it used to be

ask Post Crisis Superman.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I wouldn't call something very relevant to the discussion "random."

It was a good point. If you aren't addressing it, it's because you can't.

Relevant how?

We're discussing Mogo's placement.

If we're saying he's too low because he can beat the Thing...well...apparently there are a few hundred thousand different characters that need to be bumped up to twenty points.

look guys, this is all about fun and debating savvy. if mogo is allowed, just defeat him in your scenarios. be artful and creative.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Yeah, for durability purposes alone Mogo is above Strange/Fate level (the very top of 6 IMO). Planet busting isn't as common a feat as it used to be

ask Post Crisis Superman.

Planet Busting is a triviality for herald level beings.

Further more, Superman, and Silver Surfer take Planet Busting attacks to the face all the time with a grin.

Meaning, Mogo, apparently, has WORSE durability than a high-herald.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Yeah, for durability purposes alone Mogo is above Strange/Fate level (the very top of 6 IMO). Planet busting isn't as common a feat as it used to be

ask Post Crisis Superman.

Post crises supes can take planet busting shots. Mogo probably couldn't. Just look at the invasion of Mogo where the Sinestro corp were wrecking havoc on Mogo even managed to get down into his core...

Yeah he's real Galactus level... he didn't need any help fending off his attackers...🙄

Originally posted by Creshosk
Post crises supes can take planet busting shots.

Yeah, with the same amount of regularity that Dr. Light smacks him down with a simple energy beam or General Eiling punches put him down.

Just look at the invasion of Mogo where the Sinestro corp were wrecking havoc on Mogo even managed to get down into his core...

Yup various top tiers were waging war on him and not ONE were capable of busting him.

Let me repeat.

The entire Sinestro Corp were so incapable of busting him they required a bomb in the core to do so.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Yeah, with the same amount of regularity that Dr. Light smacks him down with a simple energy beam or General Eiling punches put him down.
😆🙄

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Just look at the invasion of Mogo where the Sinestro corp were wrecking havoc on Mogo even managed to get down into his core...

Yup various top tiers were waging war on him and not ONE were capable of busting him.

Let me repeat.

The entire Sinestro Corp were so incapable of busting him they required a bomb in the core to do so.

Yeah cause the green lantern corp totally wasn't there.

Originally posted by Creshosk
😆🙄

What, am I required to scan the issue of Dr. Light slamming him down? Or are you of the grand delusion that Superman is regularly portrayed as easily able to tank Imperiex blasts and yawns at being punched by anything less than a planet crusher.


Yeah cause the green lantern corp totally wasn't there.

And not one Sinestro Corper could break away and simply blow him away since it's such a common and easily replicated feat to be able to bust a planet?

How many top tiers have legit planet busting feats under their belt (since feats mean more then common sense nowadays)

Terrax
Gladiator
Drax
Hulk
Firelord
Beta Ray Bill
Hal Jordan
Silver Surfer?

By my count, that's 8 people in the tourney that can beat a stationary Mogo.

Keeping in mind that Planet Busting Mogo = Killing him which effectively removes half the list

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
What, am I required to scan the issue of Dr. Light slamming him down? Or are you of the grand delusion that Superman is regularly portrayed as easily able to tank Imperiex blasts and yawns at being punched by anything less than a planet crusher.


Yeah cause the green lantern corp totally wasn't there.

And not one Sinestro Corper could break away and simply blow him away since it's such a common and easily replicated feat to be able to bust a planet?

How many top tiers have legit planet busting feats under their belt (since feats mean more then common sense nowadays)

Terrax
Gladiator
Drax
Hulk
Firelord
Beta Ray Bill
Hal Jordan
Silver Surfer?

By my count, that's 8 people in the tourney that can beat a stationary Mogo.

Good point.

Maybe Mogo is too expensive...

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Superman
Silver Surfer
Dr. Strange
Mogo?

Disco Nefaria
Champion
Despero
Mogo?

Galactus
Fernus
H/P Doomsday
Mogo?

Hmmmmmmmm

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
How many top tiers have legit planet busting feats under their belt (since feats mean more then common sense nowadays)

Terrax
Gladiator
Drax
Hulk
Firelord
Beta Ray Bill
Hal Jordan
Silver Surfer?

By my count, that's 8 people in the tourney that can beat a stationary Mogo.

And that's how you get a person to defeat their own arguments. 😎

Originally posted by Creshosk
And that's how you get a person to defeat their own arguments. 😎

I see, you have no argument so you highlight two unrelating points, concession accepted.

PS:

How's a planet GL on the same tier as a human GL?

Originally posted by Soljer
Good point.

Maybe Mogo is too expensive...

Especially when you consider Superman can't do diddly to him. 😉

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Especially when you consider Superman can't do diddly to him. 😉

Meaning that Superman is clearly less powerful than;

Terrax
Gladiator
Drax
Hulk
Firelord
Beta Ray Bill
Hal Jordan
Silver Surfer

??

Hmmm...Can I still join, evangel? I'd like to draft Superman for 1 point, please.

Originally posted by Soljer
Meaning that Superman is clearly less powerful than;

Terrax
Gladiator
Drax
Hulk
Firelord
Beta Ray Bill
Hal Jordan
Silver Surfer

??

Hmmm...Can I still join, evangel? I'd like to draft Superman for 1 point, please.

When has Superman on panel matched busting a planet?

When's Superman even busted a country?

A city?

A village?