Battlehammer
Senior Member
Originally posted by Sado22
pay attention to what you're saying, man.
you say yourself that wolverine has been shot and stabbed in the past by other characters (and even admit that sometimes it was with him looking at them) and say its PIS if Frank does it.
I know what I am saying. It not the fact frank shot him that’s the problem. It the fact that Logan was caught by surprise when he was look for frank……..sorry, but wolverine senses were ignore. He should have known frank was in the area and were he was easily. He also would have heard the rocket a mile away.
Those times I admit Logan got stab or shot. He was not looking for some one and then got shot completely unaware even though he has super senses and knows there scent. Also if you did not realize this Logan lets him self be shot…….it quite common of him. He could dodge the fire, but why bother when he knows it won’t put him down. You be hard press to find a comic were Logan attempts to dodge gun fire and is it. When Logan attempts to dodge gun fire he does.
Originally posted by Sado22
i already prooved earlier that spidey's senses only go off once the danger presents itself.
No you did not. You actually proved to be completely ignorant of Spiderman’s abilities. Hell you would not even respond to my original post of your thoughts of how Spiderman’s spider sense works. You go “look at his venom fights”. That was by far the worst example you could provided. Every Spiderman read knows dam well that Spiderman’s Spider sense does not work on venom or carnage and that one of the reasons there such a threat.
No the entire point of the spider senses is to tell him when danger is around.
Originally posted by Sado22
the people pointed their guns at spidey and his senses didn't go off. it was only once they opened fire that the senses went off.
Becauses there was no danger prior to that. That was also spiderman from a while back. Spiderman from that punisher arc had far more advance spider sense. For example during civil war spiderman was able to tell that there were missles in the area prior to them be fired. Spiderman has also on many occasions new when danger would appear prior to the attack. The whole point of spider senses is to give spiderman knowledge of an attack before it happens.
Originally posted by Sado22
Also DD and Spidey escaped from teh rocket launcher. and they did it because their respective senses warned them.
Please don’t spout bull shit. First of all neither one stated there senses went off.
Second of all neither warned wolverine
And third Logan ahs super human senses also.
Originally posted by Sado22
wolverine was being a dumbass as sat there trying to figure out what Frnak meant by "suckers". and got blown apart.
Ya and it was out of character……..Like ive been saying……..they were written down to be idiots.
Originally posted by Sado22
and it is isn't pis since others have sniped, shot and blown him apart before too.
Not when he was tracking them. He has never been caught unaware by an enemy he was fallowing unless a reason was given.
Shot and blown apart because he never attempted to dodge and he was fine.
If Logan does not want to be shoot he won’t be.
Originally posted by Sado22
Bucky is one.
The only time Bucky has shot Logan was when Logan was fighting capt and Logan even implied that he new Bucky was there………and it was part of his plan……..
Originally posted by Sado22
also notice that frank didn't snipe him in the link Phantom provided. he just shot him from nearby with an assault rifle. his senses haven't done wonders for him as you say.
Ya in another Punisher comic how wonderful. Which continue to neglect that he has super human senses.
Also Logan was not tracking Punisher he was fallowing some one else……so it quite irrelevant and is simply a low showing for him.
We don’t go by low showings here or pis ones which you love to use.
Originally posted by Sado22
there was another case in ultimate x-men when he was hit by a rocket launcher.all you're doing is help me prove how much of a curbstomp Punisher vs these three really was. cheers 🙂
~Sado
Key word ultimate.
You have not proven any thing. Actaully I have shown over and over again how much PIS was presented in that issue.
By the way Logan was not even KO.
Originally posted by Sado22
eaten? i would love to see what teeth can do to adamantium.
……….It can still do stuff to the skinn, muscles, organs and so forth………not to mention the stomack acid……….or the fact that the monster consumed mutant energy………
Originally posted by Sado22
that also applies to being blown up. there was a time when he was incinerated too during civil war.
Wait a sec you think were debating civil war wolverine?
If you do this is sad. Logan from around the civil war time would stomp the ever living shit out of frank and there be nothing frank could due.
we all know that. the fact remains that not only does punisher know all [/B][/QUOTE]
……are you serous? Punisher knows all? Logan is punishers superior in military combat, and training. Before punisher was born he was running special forces missions……
Originally posted by Sado22
but he can keep wolverine down long enough.
Here the thing he can’t. Give his current armory and only having an hour of prep he not going to get any heavy duty weaponry that would put Logan down.
Originally posted by Sado22
.........like he HAS.
When did he do this again? You mean during that PIS filled comic? Ya here the thing Logan was not even put down he was still awake.
Originally posted by Sado22
......... and i'm getting tired of prooving events that already happened.
Here the thing you have no proved any thing.
Originally posted by Sado22
......... you have anything besides a hissyfit to offer in your defense cuz this is getting tedious. just admit wolverine has nothing on Frank and that Frank has pwned him everytime they came across the other. and THAT is what matters.~Sado
Funny thing is punisher has not pwned wolverine.
You have that pis filled comic which have proven completely ignores Spiderman’s and wolverines powers and abilities. It also gave them the intellect of a 5 year old and still Logan was never put down.
Then you have the ennis comic were punisher shoots Logan in the nuts. Funny little thing is that was a low showing for Logan and prior to upgrades to healing factor. Logan ahs suffer far worse pain then being shoot in the nuts and kept fighting…….hell he been shot in the nuts and could still fight. Also punisher won via plot device of a steam roller which he won’t have here. Also as I recall Logan was never even KO.
So all you have is a PIS filled comic in which Logan was never taken down.
And you have one were punisher needed the use of a plot device.
Now you said frank has pwn Logan every time?
Are you forgetting that during war journals if not mistaken Logan KO punisher with a simple glancing blow…..in the very arc that punisher shot logan in the leg.
Oh and then there most recent fight in Wolverine 186 were Logan states and the author states that Wolverines last fight with the punisher was the time involving the steam roller which means that the PIS filled comic were punisher takes Wolverine, Spiderman and Dare Devil was recon not to have happen.
Oh in that issue punisher goes all out verse wolverine who toying with him. In the end Punisher winds up on the ground unable to move and wolverine throws a magazine at his face and pretty much calls him gay.
