Namor vs. Storm

Originally posted by Jyppe
Umm, youi guys know how much energy a lightning strike contains? Maybe Namor is able to take one or two, but Strom would be able to create many of them, very rapidly. Too much energy could knock Namor out before he could release it all.

He absorbed the force of a miniature hydrogen bomb and sent it back in second. He would be able to let his durability to deal with the energy amount that he could not let out in time. This is a man who can survive full strike from Mjolnir straight to the head and re-entry to space. Combine that with his ability to absorb energy and lightning is doing nada.

Not to mention that Storm would probably miss 90% of his shots, considering Namor's speed.

Originally posted by Jyppe
AFAIK Strom was about to freeze/destroy the entire world when being in the control of these Dinosaur "men".

But that's not normal Storm, is she? Storm has not been able to do the same without being under control.

Originally posted by Jyppe
The most common WW2 airplane on the axis side was Messerschmitt 109 which only 354Miles per hour. (570Km/h))

So? He has numerous other feats that put him well above that. Plus, he caught with the planes well after they had left, which means that he would need to go much faster then they do...

Originally posted by Jyppe
The fastest one went around 44/ M/ph but it wasn't a military plane anymore. A different plane one could say

Originally posted by Jyppe
It's quite arguable that "every" Speedster has above normal reflexes (At least echanced) because they're able to dodge objects while flying in HUGE speeds. Strom was able to fly in very high speeds indoors while fighting/chasing a bloodlusted Human Torch..

He absorbed the force of a miniature hydrogen bomb and sent it back in second. He would be able to let his durability to deal with the energy amount that he could not let out in time. This is a man who can survive full strike from Mjolnir straight to the head and re-entry to space. Combine that with his ability to absorb energy and lightning is doing nada.

Not to mention that Storm would probably miss 90% of his shots, considering Namor's speed.

Y'know lightning isn't necessarily a small beam, but it can be a wide beam with lots of. smaller streams of electricity coming from the main beam. She'd only have to hit nearby. And if she hits Namor with the lightning, it might stun him for a second or so, but a second is enough to deal more. Point is, we don't really have any examples what would a superlightning do to Namor. Lightning is something very different from a hydrogen bomb. High level shock messes your brain/nearvous sytem and your heart. "Some" of the energy would chanel in to his flesh vaporizing liquids.

If Namor is trapped into a hurricane or something, she could lover the temperature or conduct electricity in it. Making some sort of mega super hyper duper.. Ah, a thunderstrom + tornado.

Namor's body is quite dependant of water/liquid. Her ligtning could propably home into him. She could also use a wide electric field to bust his brainwaves and his central nervous system.

But that's not normal Storm, is she? Storm has not been able to do the same without being under control.

Let's just say she could do enough to destroy Namor 🙄

So? He has numerous other feats that put him well above that. Plus, he caught with the planes well after they had left, which means that he would need to go much faster then they do...

Nah, I was only correcting what you guys stated 15 (..or so) pages ago 🙂 Hell, of course those planes only flied their cruising speed, not their full speed. Ever thought about that (Hard to say as I haven't seen the scan or that feat)

Storm's powers don't include superhuman reflexes, neither does Human Torch's...both were obviously flying with speeds that they were comfortable with. They have trained human reflexes. But compared to Namor's trained SUPERHUMAN reflexes (dozens of times greater then human's) they are nothing.

Buuut she has feats to back this up 😕 Sounds familiar?Of course she could have some sort of secondary mutation/adaption. There has been lots of times when she has done such things.. Of course it could be PIS, but so are most of the things Nam-.. Okay I'll be going 🙂

A bolt of lightning can reach temperatures approaching 28,000 Kelvin (50,000 degrees Fahrenheit) in a split second. This is about five times hotter than the surface of the sun. The heat of lightning that strikes loose soil or sandy regions of the ground may fuse the soil or sand into glass channels called fulgurites. These are sometimes found under the sandy surfaces of beaches and golf courses, or in desert regions. Fulgurites are evidence that lightning spreads out into branching channels when it strikes the ground.

Read: This is about five times hotter than the surface of the sun.

Originally posted by Jyppe
Y'know lightning isn't necessarily a small beam, but it can be a wide beam with lots of. smaller streams of electricity coming from the main beam. She'd only have to hit nearby. And if she hits Namor with the lightning, it might stun him for a second or so, but a second is enough to deal more. Point is, we don't really have any examples what would a superlightning do to Namor. Lightning is something very different from a hydrogen bomb. High level shock messes your brain/nearvous sytem and your heart. "Some" of the energy would chanel in to his flesh vaporizing liquids.

And the wide beam would be even easier to dodge...Namor has dodged an laser while he was on ground and weakened to be on point that he was about to faint...a beam larger and slower then laser, when Namor is at his top notch condition and in air, would not be hard to dodge.

Originally posted by Jyppe
If Namor is trapped into a hurricane or something, she could lover the temperature or conduct electricity in it. Making some sort of mega super hyper duper.. Ah, a thunderstrom + tornado.

Except that because of Namor's speed...he won't be trapped in tornado. And one thunderclap would dissipate it.

Originally posted by Jyppe
Namor's body is quite dependant of water/liquid. Her ligtning could propably home into him. She could also use a wide electric field to bust his brainwaves and his central nervous system.

Umm...Storm's lightning isn't homing lightning. She needs to be able to see her target to be able to attack it...and when the target is moving faster then Storm can THINK, I doubt that she will hit anything.

Originally posted by Jyppe
Let's just say she could do enough to destroy Namor 🙄

Let's not until you have something from normal Storm that proves it. 😕

Originally posted by Jyppe
Nah, I was only correcting what you guys stated 15 (..or so) pages ago 🙂 Hell, of course those planes only flied their cruising speed, not their full speed. Ever thought about that (Hard to say as I haven't seen the scan or that feat)

Here is one scan of him catching up with planes in middle of Atlantic.
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/7645/namorspeedfeat262bj.gif

And I'm still not sure what you are trying to prove here...since it's obvious that he has already gone above speeds of Mach 1.5 (which is the lowest speed required to fly 100,000 feet in seconds).

Originally posted by Jyppe
Buuut she has feats to back this up 😕 Sounds familiar?Of course she could have some sort of secondary mutation/adaption. There has been lots of times when she has done such things.. Of course it could be PIS, but so are most of the things Nam-.. Okay I'll be going 🙂

And none of Namor's feats are PIS...😕 He's never done anything above his normal level.

Originally posted by Jyppe
[b]A bolt of lightning can reach temperatures approaching 28,000 Kelvin (50,000 degrees Fahrenheit) in a split second. This is about five times hotter than the surface of the sun. The heat of lightning that strikes loose soil or sandy regions of the ground may fuse the soil or sand into glass channels called fulgurites. These are sometimes found under the sandy surfaces of beaches and golf courses, or in desert regions. Fulgurites are evidence that lightning spreads out into branching channels when it strikes the ground.

Read: This is about five times hotter than the surface of the sun. [/B]

Ordinary explosives work entirely through the blast effect. Atom bombs work partly through blast, partly through heat with some radiation blast. The hydrogen bomb produces heat hundreds of times hotter than the sun.

Hundred times >>>>>> five times.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler

Here is one scan of him catching up with planes in middle of Atlantic.
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/7645/namorspeedfeat262bj.gif

Originally posted by DarkCrawler

And I'm still not sure what you are trying to prove here...since it's obvious that he has already gone above speeds of Mach 1.5 (which is the lowest speed required to fly 100,000 feet in seconds).

Namor still wins imo.

I'll scan through my x-men comics if I can find the "feats". But, her speed has been stated many times, and to control your flight in such speeds you need to have quite superb reflexes.

[]quote Ordinary explosives work entirely through the blast effect. Atom bombs work partly through blast, partly through heat with some radiation blast. The hydrogen bomb produces heat hundreds of times hotter than the sun.

Hundred times >>>>>> five times. [/quote]

Not what I was trying to prove. Which is going to hurt more? A) Getting your brains blasted with more than 5 times per hot as sun temperature (She could generate a VERY powerful ligthing strikes, because usually the lightning errupts before it rises high.) B) Getting blasted with a hydrogen bomb C) getting cutted by Wolverine.

Btw, could you get me a link about the hydrogen bomb, I only found this: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,76888,00.html Which didn't reveal anything I didn't already know. It doesn't release radiation..?

Strom's ligtning isn't homing? Lightning usually homes into something specifc. Yes, it could be homing..

Bah, I'm off to bed anywayz. laters.

PS- Post the hydrogen bomb - scan, will ya? Thanks

😖hifty: Awesome reflexes.

you guys are way overthinking this...namor grabs her ankle and take her down in to ocean and drown her and washes his hands of her....frying him wouldnt work cuz he can channel energy, lighting to be exact

Originally posted by manjaro
you guys are way overthinking this...namor grabs her ankle and take her down in to ocean and drown her and washes his hands of her....frying him wouldnt work cuz he can channel energy, lighting to be exact

I concur. 😮‍💨

Originally posted by Jyppe
I'll scan through my x-men comics if I can find the "feats". But, her speed has been stated many times, and to control your flight in such speeds you need to have quite superb reflexes.

Yeah. On par with fighter jet pilot, whose jets go even faster then.

Originally posted by Jyppe
Not what I was trying to prove. Which is going to hurt more? A) Getting your brains blasted with more than 5 times per hot as sun temperature (She could generate a VERY powerful ligthing strikes, because usually the lightning errupts before it rises high.) B) Getting blasted with a hydrogen bomb C) getting cutted by Wolverine.

I'd choose lightning. Hell, normal people have survived that. There is a man who has been hit seven times by lightning and he is still alive and kicking.

Heat in lightning isn't really similar then heat in other things.

Originally posted by Jyppe
Btw, could you get me a link about the hydrogen bomb, I only found this: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,76888,00.html Which didn't reveal anything I didn't already know. It doesn't release radiation..?

Few links about hydrogen bomb and it's heat (search for heat/temperature etc.):
http://www.hydrocut.com/Terms/H.html
http://www.churchoftrueisrael.com/comparet/comp29.html
http://www.britannica.com/ebc/article-9367660
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermonuclear_bomb

Originally posted by Jyppe
Strom's ligtning isn't homing? Lightning usually homes into something specifc. Yes, it could be homing..

Perhaps normal lightning, but Storm fires her lightning mentally herself. Sure, she could fire it normallly, but Namor could just fly under her, and it would hit the highest target in the air.

Storm can't maker her lightning follow a specific person. She's not Blizkrieg.

Originally posted by Jyppe
Bah, I'm off to bed anywayz. laters.

PS- Post the hydrogen bomb - scan, will ya? Thanks

I'll try to get the scan where he electrifies the air under his own power, which shows that there is electricity inside him without absorbing anything.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Sorry but I have to ask. Where does it say he caught the planes? Or how fast they are going?

They are obviously above water, and if he was sent after them, I think he caught them.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
You have a scan? I need to examine this feat properly. Sounds like PIS.

He's also flew from USA to China in hours with the Defenders.
http://img435.imageshack.us/img435/8181/namorspeedfeat549nb.gif

Correct me if I am wrong, but the (shortest) distance between USA and China is 7500-8000 miles, give or take few dozen miles, and the lowest speed required to fly that in hours is something between 310-350 MPH, but since they were off to save the world, I doubt that they were flying with their lowest speed in exactly 23 hours 59 minutes. 🙂

Originally posted by DarkCrawler

Where do you get off posting logical arguments backed by factual evidence and common sense? Shame on you.

I believe it is now time to close the thread.

Originally posted by Final Warrior
Where do you get off posting logical arguments backed by factual evidence and common sense? Shame on you.

I believe it is now time to close the thread.

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Huh? Tell me, what isn't backed by factual evidence and common sense? 🤨

I've been here over two years...I always have done so.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
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Huh? Tell me, what isn't backed by factual evidence and common sense? 🤨

I've been here over two years...I always have done so.

Oh sorry...I was very tired when I read that and read it wrong.

I apologize, Final Warrior...thought you meant that I was not backing up stuff with facts and logical arguments. Sorry. 😮

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Oh sorry...I was very tired when I read that and read it wrong.

I apologize, Final Warrior...thought you meant that I was not backing up stuff with facts and logical arguments. Sorry. 😮

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Where do we draw the lines of PIS? Are you saying Namor is faster than the speed of sound?

He seemed to have no trouble keeping up with Captain Marvel while they were taking that bomb to space...he could go 100,000 feet in seconds...he has flown with very fast speeds from another country to other...he chased down a starship that flew with fast speeds...has caught an Atlantean missile...has been mistaken as flying vechile by US Air force...clearly showed speed well above any WWII fighter jet he fought...he easily outspeeded Red Raven, Human Torch and Sunfire...

Lot's of feats point at it.

How do ya'll post attachments?!

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Where do we draw the lines of PIS? Are you saying Namor is faster than the speed of sound?

well arent we sapouse to use the strongest form of each char that we use and if that would be namors best then how could it be pis?

that would be like saying one of supermans highest showings was pis.

i thought only superman could do the spin drill-thru dense rock thing.....wow that namor must be pretty fast whistling1