Captain America vs Superman

Started by Sundipped4 pages

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Yeah they did.

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/5762/silversurfer198700421jg3.jpg

Ok ur talking about Marvel's Mantis. That's complete PIS. Her leg should have been broken. In a face to face confrontation straight up Runner would waste Mantis horribly. In no way should she be able to compete with any Elder.

[QUOTE]As far as im concerned Runner ias faster than Supes so that doesnt matter. Furthermore Cap still has his shield so he can defend from some of the blows he cant dodge.

This thread isnt as much spite as people think.

U said he can defend from some of the blows but it'll only take 1. Cap still lacks the invulnerability.

Originally posted by Sundipped
Ok ur talking about Marvel's Mantis. That's complete PIS. Her leg should have been broken. In a face to face confrontation straight up Runner would waste Mantis horribly. In no way should she be able to compete with any Elder.

I have to disagree. That was Mantis after she received the Celestial Madonna upgrade, and that upgrade pushed her into the Herald range. The girl was able to stalemate a Thanos clone of some power in fact. And even before the upgrade, she showed the ability to push her consciousness into another time frame so it's conceivable for her to react to ANY speedster.

that didn't prevent her from getting turned into a pretzel on the next page.

Cap wins without all this baggage.

Originally posted by Sundipped

U said he can defend from some of the blows but it'll only take 1. Cap still lacks the invulnerability.

Well im not sure how durable he is but Mantis did block one of Champions punches. She should be able to take some of Supermans punches at any rate Cap now has fTL reflexes his skill and Mantis's skill it could well be argued that Cap will dictate how the fight goes because he is better at H2H and his shield and would not even get hit, especially if the motherbox gives him a red sun gun he can finish the fight quickly.

Mantis is hard to gauge. She has one nice showing of bringing down Thor for a bit with a sneak attack.

But when she fought Wonderman, Drax, and Champion she could not KO them. In fact once they got a hold of her, she was completely helpless.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Mantis is hard to gauge. She has one nice showing of bringing down Thor for a bit with a sneak attack.

But when she fought Wonderman, Drax, and Champion she could not KO them. In fact once they got a hold of her, she was completely helpless.

Ok good points but when she thought WM I dont think she was not at the Celestial madonna level.

When she fought Champs, he used MA.

Ok she got caught by Drax, but dont forget her evading Runner and almost dodging every single attack from Obliterator.

Also dont forget this is not just about Mantis's skill but Cap as well, it could be argued that he would be even more effective than Manbis at FTL speed he can also use his shield to block a good portion of attacks.

Bump.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Bump.

Reported.

1) supes take cap to space
2) supes freezes cap
3) supes grabs him and heads for centre of earth
there are many ways yhis fight could end with supes winning it every time

Originally posted by manx422
1) supes take cap to space
2) supes freezes cap
3) supes grabs him and heads for centre of earth
there are many ways yhis fight could end with supes winning it every time

I could respond to those points but it seems your a sock.

Bump.

I wasnt sure wether the motherbox gave him added durability I suspected it but the motherbox protected Batman from DS's punches.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Could you at least like at the scans. *groan*

All through out this thread you moaned people to look at the scans but you failed (Seems like a common thing for you) to realize people did and it made no difference.

*bump* 😐

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
*bump* 😐
Originally posted by Yowsa
All through out this thread you moaned people to look at the scans but you failed (Seems like a common thing for you) to realize people did and it made no difference.

I would say the motherbox capabilities must be discussed more because it seems like it can do much if it exploits superman's weaknesses. Even with Cap's new powers and stuff I think the fight will go something like this... Superman will try a flurry of punches and HV but Cap will block some and dodge some. I beleve even blocking with the sheild he will absorb some of the impact unto himself and that will hurt some. Add in a few hits cap didn't manage to dodge or block will further hurt 'cap's ability to fight but if cap holds off superman with his reflexes and his Healing helps him last longer he can buy himself enough time for the mother box to create a anti-superman contraption (i would suggest cap makes some kind of explosive kryptonite bomb, the bomb won't harm cap at all and it would be unexpected and superman will prolly think its a normal grenade or bomb and won't give it a second thought just taking the hit) I assume this is a very good scenario. On the other hand superman can be cheap and bear hug cap and run into soemthing really hard and kill cap on impact or fly into the vacume of space space. Are those both likely attacks that superman will do initially i don't think so tho.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
I would say the motherbox capabilities must be discussed more because it seems like it can do much if it exploits superman's weaknesses. Even with Cap's new powers and stuff I think the fight will go something like this... Superman will try a flurry of punches and HV but Cap will block some and dodge some. I beleve even blocking with the sheild he will absorb some of the impact unto himself and that will hurt some. Add in a few hits cap didn't manage to dodge or block will further hurt 'cap's ability to fight but if cap holds off superman with his reflexes and his Healing helps him last longer he can buy himself enough time for the mother box to create a anti-superman contraption (i would suggest cap makes some kind of explosive kryptonite bomb, the bomb won't harm cap at all and it would be unexpected and superman will prolly think its a normal grenade or bomb and won't give it a second thought just taking the hit) I assume this is a very good scenario. On the other hand superman can be cheap and bear hug cap and run into soemthing really hard and kill cap on impact or fly into the vacume of space space. Are those both likely attacks that superman will do initially i don't think so tho.

Thank you! To add some points though Cap now has added durability. Im not sure how durable Mantis is but she can survive in the vacuum of space and was able to block one of Champions punches so Cap could take some punches from supes.

Apparently a motherbox protected Batman from Darksieds punches.