wolverine/sabertooth vs spiderman/death stroke

Originally posted by Battlehammer

you cant make statements like 95% of evidence says he can't lift 1 ton and then not provide any evidences, because you got caught talking out your ass.

go read logan comics...I'll bet you if you read 30 of the most recent comics, you will not find one issue where he lifts over 2 tons.

so there, checkmate.

how is he suppose to prove logan is at a minimum a two tonner when you have dismissed the examples he already provided?

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
how is he suppose to prove logan is at a minimum a two tonner when you have dismissed the examples he already provided?

and two of them were not even 2 ton feats.

Originally posted by Starscream M
I can back up the 95% statement

go read logan comics...I'll bet you if you read 30 of the most recent comics, you will not find one issue where he lifts over 2 tons.

so there, checkmate.

you are utterly rediculoius

Originally posted by Battlehammer
No you can't Your saying 95% evidence prove he cant lift 1 ton, but him not attempting to lift so does not prove your statement right.

you are utterly rediculoius

Originally posted by Starscream M
3 examples out of 50 years? come on gimme a break...those were just PIS feats

and two of them were not even 2 ton feats.

yea there all pis even though he been doing feats like this since his creation 🙄

everything wolverine does is pis 🙄

shark incident - shark is about 1000 pounds at most

garbage can incident - again, about 1000 pounds

elevator incident - about 2000 pounds

none of those approaches 2 tons, which is 4000 pounds

Originally posted by Starscream M
shark incident - shark is about 1000 pounds at most

garbage can incident - again, about 1000 pounds

elevator incident - about 2000 pounds

none of those approaches 2 tons, which is 4000 pounds

Originally posted by Starscream M
shark incident - shark is about 1000 pounds at most

garbage can incident - again, about 1000 pounds

elevator incident - about 2000 pounds

none of those approaches 2 tons, which is 4000 pounds

garbage incident weighted 1,600 pounds and he throw it with one arm five feet.........again would take over 2 tons of strength.

elevator incodent would clearly take over 2 ton strength to achieve he held a full friggin elevator and his own weight while holding on to a friggin wire.......

actaully every single one would take over 2 tons to do. You low balling it does not change that fact

@numbnuts

so your defense is that all of logan's strength feats and strength comparison with other legit 2-15 tonners where he arm locks or pushes against them ot lifts things is BS PIS? for the sole reason that he hasnt done it in at least 30 issues which amount to at least 2 1/2 yrs. even though he has a record of such feat spanning over 3 decades?

Originally posted by Charmander
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Originally posted by Battlehammer
Again on panel evidence >>>>>>Hand books. You showing a hand book entry does not have precedents over many feats form a primary source. Primary source>>>>>secondary source with many controdictions.

im sure the handbook writers have access to all the feats you speak of , i wonder why they chos eto negelct it though 😕

Originally posted by Battlehammer

It not a 200 pound shark it a 1,100 pound shark.

i never said 200 🙁 i said why not 2000/3000lbs , where does it say 1100lbs anyway , even with that weight (0.5 tonnes logan woudl have to be stronger than able to lift 2 tons to throw it above his head the way he did, i wanted to know why you are happy with the 2 ton limit? sabretooth has >>class 75 feats (yup thats right folks ,overpowereing charging elephant barrier, three shotting class 50,75 etc , howver i am not too sure on the credibility) why are sabretooth fans happy with calling him class 20/25

because if we were to say logan is easily a 5 tonner or 10 tonner by reference of ppl he has fought and shown to match or stalemate in a hand grip push attack ppl would call us fanboys and liars. it is easier to get ppl to believe he is at least a 2 tonner then anything else even though the creator and writers of logan designed him to be spidey's counterparts in many abilities with a slight variation.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
because if we were to say logan is easily a 5 tonner or 10 tonner by reference of ppl he has fought and shown to match or stalemate in a hand grip push attack ppl would call us fanboys and liars. it is easier to get ppl to believe he is at least a 2 tonner then anything else even though the creator and writers of logan designed him to be spidey's counterparts in many abilities with a slight variation.

umm that was the original 'intention', but it got scrapped eventually

so do you belive logan is a 5/10 tonner?i mean he did give herc a "blow worthy of titans" , why stop there he could be class 25 perhaps 😕

my idea was that wolverine/sabretooth fans undermine his strength feats as they feel the feat is not credible, and out of charecter

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
because if we were to say logan is easily a 5 tonner or 10 tonner by reference of ppl he has fought and shown to match or stalemate in a hand grip push attack ppl would call us fanboys and liars.

Originally posted by Mindset
And those people would be right.

hence, why we dont say that 😉 instead we say that an adamantium braced or locked skeleton position allowed him to perform such feats and we dont include his muscle strength in that reference. 😛

@ankur

logans striking power is a completely different issue. that has bn shown on panel numerous times against brick opponents, and accredited by many ppl like nick fury, logan own statement of having to control his striking power against low lvl meta's and humans. on panel displays of what his adamantium backed punches, claw swipes and body can do to tony's unbreakable glass and shield's Glass that can withstand a nuke but not logan throwing himself at it.

😎

it also sounds to me that you are just trying to goat ppl here. 😖hifty:

hilarious 😆

Originally posted by ankur29
im sure the handbook writers have access to all the feats you speak of , i wonder why they chos eto negelct it though 😕

Originally posted by ankur29
i i never said 200 🙁 i said why not 2000/3000lbs , where does it say 1100lbs anyway , even with that weight (0.5 tonnes logan woudl have to be stronger than able to lift 2 tons to throw it above his head the way he did, i wanted to know why you are happy with the 2 ton limit?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Not at all. First off the shark weights 1,100 pounds he lifted over his head and through it in the boat with no leverage that would take at least 2 ton strenght to achieve.

garbage incident weighted 1,600 pounds and he throw it with one arm five feet.........again would take over 2 tons of strength.

elevator incodent would clearly take over 2 ton strength to achieve he held a full friggin elevator and his own weight while holding on to a friggin wire.......

actaully every single one would take over 2 tons to do. You low balling it does not change that fact

1. shark incident does not take 2 ton strength....as you said its 1100 lbs....throwing it a few feet does not make it more impressive

2. prove the garbage can weighs over 1600lbs.

3. elevator was held by a pulley system so logan didn't have to carry the whole weight.