Originally posted by Starscream Mdo you know what a clear feat would be...ie if wolverine lifts a small car...that would be good proof. not the crap you keep repeating.
You can keep ignoring it all you want, but you just look like an idiot. Lifting a small car is not hold more ground then thoses feats I mentioned.
Originally posted by Starscream MThey were all with one arm. The elevator is the heaviest, probably, and was held with one arm. The motorcycle weighs over 1,000 pounds and was tossed with one arm w/o much effort. The dumpster weighs 1,600 pounds and was tossed with one arm w/o much effort. Doesn't take a lot of thought to realize that those feats put him within range of a 2 tonner.
bada, how is any of that demonstration that Logan lifts over 4000 pounds? none of those things are even over 2000 pounds.
Originally posted by Starscream M
ok whatever dood...believe what you want. I'm finished with this debate...I still personally think Logan's strength is about 1 ton peak.
dispite the fact he regularly preformed feats over 2 tons. but that expected from you.
also peak wolverine which is berserker wolverine is avstly stronger then his normal self to the point he broken 15 tonner bear hug, twenty men or more could not hold him down, over powered to meta humans, punched man fifty feat ect.
Originally posted by Badabing
They were all with one arm. The elevator is the heaviest, probably, and was held with one arm. The motorcycle weighs over 1,000 pounds and was tossed with one arm w/o much effort. The dumpster weighs 1,600 pounds and was tossed with one arm w/o much effort. Doesn't take a lot of thought to realize that those feats put him within range of a 2 tonner.
Originally posted by ankur29So how strong is Spiderman since he's lifted a tank before?
I¡¦m sorry you feel that way, but I did say earlier my idea was that wolverine/sabre tooth fans undermine his strength feats as they feel the feat is not credible, and within character limits. his owns fans seem to ignore this and are m happier a quarter of third of what his strength should be from high end feats , I thought it this just showed how feats like that are considered silly by the characters fans , they too have little faith in the credibility of the feat hence undermining the true strength displayed15/20 tons, which is it?
Highest figure? Don¡¦t you think forge would have used highest figures when building it? I.e. he wouldn¡¦t use a lame footed, baby bull elephant jogging 😖, charging means full throttle, and he must have had the highest weight of a bull elephant in mind ƒ» when designing a ¡¥barrier ¡Vdesigned to detain someone/stop someone escaping from it ¡¦
You speak of limitation? Which limitations are you speaking of? Handbook figures? There aren¡¦t any numerical figures for sabretooth as of yet, so his limit would be at his highest feat, do you see my logic?
What are the relevance of the high end feats then if you are willing to dismiss ¡¥primary source¡¦ and less than third the strength shown? Again it seems that you may not be entirely confident in the credibility of the feat¡K ¡§ive seen him do a 75 ton feat , he must be at least class 15¡¨ , strange ƒ».
by low balling do you mean the minimum strength people expect him to have? And high browsing meaning the maximum strength that can be concluded from on panel evidence? So you¡¦re averaging ¡¥primary source¡¦ with minimum expectations, not a very statistical method 🙁 ,
basically your saying to someone ¡§since you ¡¥think¡¦ A can lift 1 kg , I ve seen him lift 5kg , so he should be able to lift ¡¥3kg¡¦thing can press according to handbooks 85-90 tons, his feats show he can lift a few hundred , should I average?
what is logan¡¦s highest strength feat? That makes you think 2 ton is typical limit? Same for sabretooth that makes you think 15 tons is suitable?
Originally posted by BadabingWithin range isn't too bad I suppose. I can get a 50 lb weight and throw it a good distance, but that may or may not mean I can lift 200 over my head (I might though). I think it depends on the lift, and also it's easier to lift when your skeleton won't break. Wolverine trying his hardest may very well lift that much, I just hope people keep that in mind for other characters as well.
They were all with one arm. The elevator is the heaviest, probably, and was held with one arm. The motorcycle weighs over 1,000 pounds and was tossed with one arm w/o much effort. The dumpster weighs 1,600 pounds and was tossed with one arm w/o much effort. Doesn't take a lot of thought to realize that those feats put him within range of a 2 tonner.
Originally posted by Wild ShadowFlipping a sub car, lifting tons of stuff off of him, throwing a vehicle at the top of a building? What makes those BS moments and Wolverine throwing a motorcycle NOT one? Nothing, and that is exactly my point.
it doesnt matter because spidey has only done it once hence it was a BS PIS moment. 😉 😕 from his average display of strength i put spidey at the 4 or 5 ton range. 😎
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I'm just saying it's one way or another. I don't mind characters having adrenaline and doing really high end feats, but we can't accept one character and not another.
And who here is doing that? bear in mind i was just making an example of spidey and his feat of the tank to be a smart@$$. 😄
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I'm just saying it's one way or another. I don't mind characters having adrenaline and doing really high end feats, but we can't accept one character and not another.
yes this is what i was trying to establish , creeds high end feats will make him class 75 , why do creed fans accept 15-20 tons ,my conclusion is that they feel the class 75 feat is inconsisent with the charecter and don't deem it credible enough to call sabretooth class 75,instances where sabretooth appears stronger than he should be is due to poor writing
spiderman based on high end feats would be over 25 ton range, i don't understand why there is alot of hypocorism , ppl are willing to use guesstimated figures for logan/creed but use hadnbook figures for spiderman