EVANGEL94's Final Slugfest Tournament: Round 1-5; King Kandy vs id369

Originally posted by id369
Psychometry is the ability to pick up psyonic imprints from the given object left from the body. Lucky me I have the actual body (the source of its psyonic imprints), with It use its psionic signature to reform the conscious with the mind link. And look, I did so effortlessly by just touching the vessel across realities.

Originally posted by King Kandy
To bad for you, all feats are allowed by the Strange I have drafted, as specified by Evangel. Dr. Strange easily beat Moon Dragon w/ mind gem WITHOUT his eye of Aggamoto. With it, he could fend off the IG mind gem. Now, when controlled by the Egg he didn't know he was being controlled, and never attempted to ward it off with the eye. But he's fighting two powerful telepaths here and will have it activated full-time.

The guy they asked had no clue who would win. He said they could be equal EVEN THOUGH Richards hasn't trained and Nate has. Therefore, at full potential Richards is far above Nate. And anyway, you cannot unlock this true potential (which doesn't have any feats anyway.)

Wow talk about getting it all wrong. The writer answered at full potential both may vary well rival each other.

And it’s the current incarnation of the characters. If currently or a later feat, contradicts a prior feat. Then you will have a hard time backing up its former feat.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Ah, I see. So you will be able to pick up some flashbacks from Gene, and not get much info. That's good for me, and the Phoenix isn't even part of the equation. When he was scanning the house, he could only get bits and pieces of the info and not the whole picture, and those people were actually there... Phoenix isn't.

You misunderstand, psychometry is the doorknob, to which the mind link acts as the door . With the psychic residue (which is significant, considering it’s the body and not an object) I proceed to link her psinoic signature with her mind. Incidentally on current up to date records Jean’s mind intertwines with the Phoenix. That is not made up, read End Song #5 and find out for yourself. Don’t look at me, I don’t write mavel comics I simply read them. And I am following the rule set of the tournament.

Originally posted by id369
Wow talk about getting it all wrong. The writer answered at full potential both may vary well rival each other.

Originally posted by id369
And it’s the current incarnation of the characters. If currently or a later feat, contradicts a prior feat. Then you will have a hard time backing up its former feat.

Originally posted by id369
You misunderstand, psychometry is the doorknob, to which the mind link acts as the door . With the psychic residue (which is significant, considering it’s the body and not an object) I proceed to link her psinoic signature with her mind. Incidentally on current up to date records Jean’s mind intertwines with the Phoenix. That is not made up, read End Song #5 and find out for yourself. Don’t look at me, I don’t write mavel comics I simply read them. And I am following the rule set of the tournament.

Jean's mind can interlink with Phoenix, irrelevant since her mind is nowhere to be found. "Psychic Residue" to "Jean's Mind" to "Phoenix" is to big of a stretch for any rational person to believe, given he can't even pick up anything more then wisps with his Psychometry.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Then you psi-freeze the arena. Later in my post I will go over why that doesn't make a bit of difference in this match and was in fact a very bad move. But what I want to focus on is you tracking me during prep, while I am also prepping. You did not purchase the spy during prep ability, so this is illegal. You can only track me once the battle has started, not that you will be able to given I have shown the enormous amounts of TP I can dispel without effort.

Please read my prep/strategy carefully and slowly. I will disregard the Psi Freeze, it’s a matter of opinion you will fight to your benefice since its being used a against you.

However, I did not spy on you. I said at the START, (notice the emphasis on start) I will track you down, and proceed with my offensive attack.

Originally posted by King Kandy

Next, your Multi-form attack. You only back it up with statements, has Nate ever SHOWN the power to move stars? No, it's just someone's guess as to his potential, nothing substantiated. You even admit that the attack will be ineffective without the predicted power levels.

My power level rivals the Dark Phoenix matched to the computer readings. With a portion (less then what Rachael had), you can throw moons around and super ignite planets telekinetically.

Originally posted by King Kandy
You mind link her "psionic Signature" with her mind... WHAT MIND? All you have is Nate in a girl's body, there is no second mind to link to.

Jean's mind can interlink with Phoenix, irrelevant since her mind is nowhere to be found. "Psychic Residue" to "Jean's Mind" to "Phoenix" is to big of a stretch for any rational person to believe, given he can't even pick up anything more then wisps with his Psychometry.

Ah yes, you can perform a mind link, if you have the psionic signature. Its with the psi signature that you link with the mind, and I am using Jean to meet ends.

Her psi-signature leads to her mind which intertwines with the Phoenix Conscious.

Originally posted by id369
Please read my prep/strategy carefully and slowly. I will disregard the Psi Freeze, it’s a matter of opinion you will fight to your benefice since its being used a against you.

Originally posted by id369
However, I did not spy on you. I said at the START, (notice the emphasis on start) I will track you down, and proceed with my offensive attack.

Originally posted by id369 I know finish up my prep by applying TP/TK/Psi to locate my foe.

Originally posted by id369
My power level rivals the Dark Phoenix matched to the computer readings. With a portion (less then what Rachael had), you can throw moons around and super ignite planets telekinetically.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Not at all. He said their powers may rival eachother (at the time of writing) but also says that Franklin is only in his infancy, but Nate has already had massive training.

Ok let me put this in lame terms since.
Their potential rival each other.
But currently Nate would win, since he is more battle experienced and Richard is a child.

Way to bend comments. In fact its not something I have debate or constantly rebute, the statement speaks for itself.

Originally posted by id369
Ah yes, you can perform a mind link, if you have the psionic signature. Its with the psi signature that you link with the mind, and I am using Jean to meet ends.

Her psi-signature leads to her mind which intertwines with the Phoenix Conscious.

You are trying to go from point A to point B when point B does not exist.

Originally posted by id369
Ok let me put this in lame terms since.
Their potential rival each other.
But currently Nate would win, since he is more battle experienced and Richard is a child.

Way to bend comments. In fact its not something I have debate or constantly rebute, the statement speaks for itself.

Originally posted by King Kandy
It will be to my benefit because it will keep you distracted using that attack which will take about a day relative to me to do anything, since it will only move out at 30 m/s.

My movements, and certainly not my speed of thought are anywhere near 30 m/s. Why you continue to place human limits, on an incorporeal being is beyond me.

Originally posted by King Kandy

Don't lie.

Originally posted by King Kandy

And yet she couldn't take out Jaf with the ENTIRE Phoenix. There are high showings and low ones.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Would work if there was mind to connect to. There isn't, only Nate with boobs. A mind link requires multiple minds, but you only have Nate's. Her psi-signature doesn't lead to anything because there's no mind to link to.

You are trying to go from point A to point B when point B does not exist.

The question takes place well after the Onslaught arc, narration already stated they are the two most powerful mutants ATM and its after Richards performs the Heros reborn feat or is stated to potentially be at the level of a Celestial.

The reader asked if Nate is more powerful then Richards. The author answered, “Their “Power’s” may as well rival each other.

Originally posted by id369
My movements, and certainly not my speed of thought are anywhere near 30 m/s. Why you continue to place human limits, on an incorporeal being is beyond me.

Originally posted by id369
That was Jean with mind Blocks, Racheal strait up blitz the Jaf.

Originally posted by id369
The question takes place well after the Onslaught arc, narration already stated they are the two most powerful mutants ATM and its after Richards performs the Heros reborn feat or is stated to potentially be at the level of a Celestial.

The reader asked if Nate is more powerful then Richards. The author answered, “Their “Power’s” may as well rival each other.

Nate: Whose Psi- Potential is unsurpassed in any reality. - X-Man 26

Nate has recently learned that the limitless psi power he wields is also destroying him - X-Man 29

he has powers that could one day remake reality - X-Man #53

The Worlds most powerful mutant telepath
A mutant of raw raging power, enough to consume all of reality in a moment
- X-Man #20

I could go on, but I think you get the point.

Through introduction, narration, on panel confirmation, and writer interpretation. Nate Grey has enormous powers to command at full Potential.

Whoopdeedoo. Not that this has anything to do with our match. His full potential won't help him here, especially since he can't activate it.

BTW, i'm wondering how id plans on defending himself from my BFR. You have said nothing on the subject, given that I simply run up and BFR you, there's nothing you CAN say. None of your attacks will ever get through.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I never said you couldn't THINK faster then 30 m/s, it's that the speed at which your thoughts project out of your mind is 30 m/s (like how Thor was able to throw Mjolnir faster then the "thought waves" of some telepath could reach their target) it has nothing to do with your reaction time, and everything to do with how fast TP energy moves.

Since when can you clock energy movements? My, my I sense hysteria and fear. How much until acceptance?

Originally posted by King Kandy

No, that's not true. Jean's mind blocks started effecting her AFTER the m'kraan crystal incident. She had no blocks but still failed to defeat Jaf.

However, I count on the Phoenix Memories as well, and by die factor what the Phoenix has done after that incident. Which leads to *gasp* Phoenix smashing through Jaf.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Whoopdeedoo. Not that this has anything to do with our match. His full potential won't help him here, especially since he can't activate it.

BTW, i'm wondering how id plans on defending himself from my BFR. You have said nothing on the subject, given that I simply run up and BFR you, there's nothing you CAN say. None of your attacks will ever get through.

And BFR is a wasted move. Sure I cant remove you from the battlefield. But nothing implies I cant return to the battlefield. And Shaman X-Man is vary good at teleporting across realities.

Originally posted by id369
Since when can you clock energy movements? My, my I sense hysteria and fear. How much until acceptance?

Originally posted by id369
Oh that’s right, an untrained and worn out Jean could only muster up enough energy to throw a meteor at Jaf.

However, I count on the Phoenix Memories as well, and by die factor what the Phoenix has done after that incident. Which leads to *gasp* Phoenix smashing through Jaf.

Anyway, my point wasn't that Jaf>Phoenix, my point was that she has low showings as well as high ones, and you only acknowledge the high ones.