1 in 4 Teen Girls has AT LEAST one STD...

Started by Melcórë7 pages

Sorry to put a damper on this thread, but you should never trust statistics. There is no fathomable way that they are universally-correct due to the fact that the results were more than likely voluntarily-given. The only way one could purport statistics to be verifiable fact - and even that is somewhat dubious - would be if it consisted of a census.

The fact of the matter is that people are having as much sex as they ever had, with STIs and pregnancies about as common as they have been for as long as humankind has existed. Teaching abstinence-only is flawed (IMO) due to the restriction placed on the act. Teaching safe-sex is flawed (IMO) because everybody knows about the risks, they're just stupid and don't take the proper precautions.

LOL, I don't know. But considering I'm part of that statistic, I have some issues with it. Everbody I know who is having sex at my age (with the exception of one person) practices safe-sex, and there are quite a few who refuse to. Maybe it's just the people I hang around with, or the fact that we're fairly suburban, I don't know.

Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
I didn't realize that apt analogies were considered to be "fail."

It was a shit analogy, shit analogies = Fail

Originally posted by sithsaber408
It's clear from his opinion and all the others in the thread: More sex education, More use of condoms and other protection.

That, apparently, is what will solve all of this.

But I can remember as 13 year old sitting down for a week straight in school and seeing all the videos, how sex works, different prevention methods, nasty pics of std infected penises and vaginas,...I'm tellin' you, it was pretty graphic, pretty easy to understand.

If you have sex, have safe sex, or else (Blank) might happen. (pregnancy, std's, etc...)

I got it, and knew exactly what they were saying. That was 12 years ago.

My assertation is this: Kids are being educated about it perfectly well.

They just don't listen. Pregnancy, STD's, hilarity ensues.

The "sex education" isn't making anybody smarter about sex.

That's why waiting until marriage was, is, and always will be the best choice.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The problem is that teenagers are not receiving comprehensive sexual education; for over 11 years, 86% of public schools have been teaching abstinence-only sexual education:

"What the Research Shows: Abstinence-Only-Until-Marriage Sex Education Does Not Protect Teenagers' Health"

There is no conclusive evidence that abstinence-only sex education, which teaches students to abstain from sex until married and generally only teaches about contraceptive failure, reduces the rate of unintended pregnancy or sexually transmitted diseases (STDs). Moreover, research indicates that many of these programs do not help teens delay having sex. Yet the federal government has funneled well over half a billion dollars since 1997 into abstinence-only programs, steadily increasing funding in recent years to more than $165 million annually.

On the other hand, evidence shows that comprehensive sexuality education programs that provide information about abstinence and contraception can help delay the start of sexual activity in teenagers and increase condom use among sexually active teens. Yet there is currently no federal program dedicated to supporting comprehensive sexuality education.

Studies show that most abstinence-only programs do not help teens delay having sex, and some show evidence that these programs actually deter teens who become sexually active from protecting themselves from unintended pregnancy or STDs.

[list][*]A recent review of program evaluations in 11 states (AZ, CA FL, IA, MD, MN, MO, NE, OR, PA, WA) indicates that after participating in abstinence-only programs, teens are less willing to use contraception, including condoms. And in only one state, did any program demonstrate any success in delaying the initiation of sex.

D. Hauser, Five Years of Abstinence-Only-Until-Marriage Education: Assessing the Impact, Advocates for Youth, September 2004.

[*]Many abstinence programs include "Virginity Pledges," whereby teens sign cards promising to remain virgins until they are married. While data suggests that under limited circumstances, teens who sign a pledge may delay sexual intercourse, 88 percent still have sex before marriage. Recent research also shows that pledgers' rate of STDs does not differ from the rate of nonpledgers because pledgers are less likely to use condoms at first intercourse or to be tested for STDs.

H. Brückner and P. Bearman, "After the promise: the STD consequences of adolescent virginity pledges," Journal of Adolescent Health, 36 (2005) 271-278.[/list]

A recent Congressional report found that widely used federally funded abstinence-only curricula distort information, misrepresent the facts, and promote gender stereotypes.

[list][*]More than 80 percent of the abstinence-only curricula reviewed contain false, misleading, or distorted information about reproductive health.

[*]The curricula reviewed misrepresent the effectiveness of contraceptives in preventing STDs and unintended pregnancy. They also contain false information about the risks of abortion, blur religion and science, promote gender stereotypes, and contain basic scientific errors.

"The Content of Federally Funded Abstinence-Only Education Programs," Prepared for Rep. Henry A. Waxman, United States House of Representatives, Committee on Government Reform - Minority Staff, Special Investigations Division, December 2004.[/list]

The irony is that it is abstinence-only sexual education and the refusal of religious parents to vaccinate their daughters against HPV that is responsible for this statistic.

I had to wear one of those overwhelming dental dams the other day during my root canal. Turns out, that's also a recommended way to avoid STD during oral sex. So all you kids out there, start raiding your local dentistry.

Damn, you've aged. Time to cut back on the heavy drinking, it's starting to show.

Yeah, and I could have done a better job trimming the nose hairs.

Originally posted by Melcórë
LOL, I don't know. But considering I'm part of that statistic, I have some issues with it. Everbody I know who is having sex at my age (with the exception of one person) practices safe-sex, and there are quite a few who refuse to. Maybe it's just the people I hang around with, or the fact that we're fairly suburban, I don't know.

cognitive dissonance much?

Originally posted by Melcórë
Sorry to put a damper on this thread, but you should never trust statistics. There is no fathomable way that they are universally-correct due to the fact that the results were more than likely voluntarily-given.

Wouldn't that mean that things are raelly worse than supposed in the survey?

People tend to be truthful about themselves when it's anonymous.

Same thing I thought

Originally posted by Robtard
People tend to be truthful about themselves when it's anonymous.
Except for dadudemon.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Except for dadudemon.

Good point, but I wouldn't let the rare exception be the rule.

Originally posted by Robtard
It was a shit analogy, shit analogies = Fail

Thanks for supporting your rebuttal so well. Let's cyber now?

Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
Thanks for supporting your rebuttal so well. Let's cyber now?

Schecter pretty much explained it before I did:

Originally posted by Schecter
a tazer is a weapon which can be used in harming someone.

a condom is a piece of latex you put over your penis which can harm nobody (unless a child with a tiny head manages to suffocate in it)

it was a fallacious analogy

It was a faulty analogy, don't take it personal. It doesn't reflex on you as a person.

But to your point, yes, teens ARE going to have sex, as fact. So providing them condoms would be the smart(er) move. Do you really think if condoms became an 20 or older item to purchase item, teens will just not have sex? (Please don't say something along the lines of "are you going to give them cigarettes and alcohol then?"😉

Yeah, I suppose it was a bad analogy. I blame three hours of sleep.

Masturbation is the cat's pajamas, but don't let it interfere with your sleep that much.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
We should do what they did in the past: Make kids that have sex get married. Problem salved.

Then the divorce rate would skyrocket even higher than it already is...

Originally posted by Bardock42
Except for dadudemon.

Is someone jealous of my average sized penis? 😉

Originally posted by dadudemon
Is someone jealous of my average sized penis? 😉

😆

Originally posted by dadudemon
Is someone jealous of my average sized penis? 😉
You read me like a book, man.