Originally posted by Quark_666
That's a valid issue, but some of us are more responsible because of our belief in God.
Then what does that say about your moral standard? Personally, i don't need the threat of eternal torture to be a good person in my society. I love my wife, thats reason enough for me not to cheat on her, i respect my neighbours and am jelous of their porsche, but wouldn't dream of damaging another persons property. Living in a society where you want harmony while you live there is all the motivation you should need.
More to the point, you believe that a being capable of sending someone to be tortured for an eternity for a finite crime in any way deserves respect or your worship.
/Growballs
Originally posted by Robtard
Is it the fear of being sent to a federal pound-you-in-the-ass prison?
No, the fear of punishment should never be the motivator, stealing a purse from an old lady is easy, you could probably do it without anyone ever finding out, including her if you wanted, near zero risk factor, buti don't do these things because they are shitty, and if everyone went around doing it it would be a less harmonious society. I wouldn't want to be stolen from, and if i walk around being an ******* all day, than 9/10 someone will be an ******* to me.
Originally posted by Deja~vu
Sure you can do what ever you want and say it's god will. Why take responsibily for your action when you can put if off on someone else. "God made me do it. Satan made me do it. "I'm okay as long as someone else is at fault. I'm just obeying orders.
Yep. The Nuremberg defence.
"God mitt uns" ("God with us"😉 was what the Nazis did their conquering under.
So citing, and comparing the issue to the Nuremberg defence is very very appropriate indeed.
Originally posted by Juk3n
More to the point, you believe that a being capable of sending someone to be tortured for an eternity for a finite crime in any way deserves respect or your worship./Growballs
I believe a being who creates universes, life, and is all loving and all just is something that deserves worship, yes.
Hell isn't something God wants, it's something that has to be.