Doomsday HP vs Thanos

Originally posted by skyfather
ds durablity is nowhere thanos's when it comes to fights,wasnt that supposedly an avatar,superman was piss poor weak still even with the motherbox in h/p.

how does dd overcome thanos mattermanip,without dying. seeing as he only overcame radiants attacks because of his death and resurrection/evelving

- Couldn't care less what you think about DS' durability in relation to Thanos. I compared it to the comment regarding Surfer's durability and how Doomsday dropped Darkseid faster than Thanos dropped Surfer.

- Even during their first encounter the fight raged on for days. In the second fight he was not simply resistant, but could counter the radiant's energy and kill him. Doomsday will defeat Thanos by developing ON THE FLY. Just like he did against waverider's attack.

- Scans of Thanos using matter manipulation offensively. All I've seen are energy blasts and shields.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He matched thor with the power gem,manhandled hulk,tookon thor and the thing at his weakest,took on more powerful doppleganger,raped the surfer,etc.

Ds has submitted to superman. He even said they are all peers to each other.

Thanos has never gotten into a drawn out fight with thor by himself without the power gem and has handled himsel ffine against thor and help.

Couple of things:

1.Prof Hulk and Thing as opposed to when supes took on Lobo and some other class 100 dude who's eluding me at the momment.

2. Supes taking on a daximite who is biologically superior to kryptonians.

3. Oneshotting Despero

By sheer feats alone Supes>Thanos and DS is>Supes....doesnt really speak to me as a low showing that DS considers Supes his physical equal considering what DS has been capable of in the past.

[i]Originally posted by Kris Blaze
- Couldn't care less what you think about DS' durability in relation to Thanos. I compared it to the comment regarding Surfer's durability and how Doomsday dropped Darkseid faster than Thanos dropped Surfer.

- Even during their first encounter the fight raged on for days. In the second fight he was not simply resistant, but could counter the radiant's energy and kill him. Doomsday will defeat Thanos by developing ON THE FLY. Just like he did against waverider's attack.

- Scans of Thanos using matter manipulation offensively. All I've seen are energy blasts and shields.

Originally posted by skyfather
if aits a avartar as ds fans claim,it not a valid feat for dd imo

he stil had to die to evolve/counter radiants attacks.a luxury he doest have here,and he cant evolve to bfr.

- Got any proof that it's an Avatar? Said Avatar was able to incinerate cyborg Superman with an omega blast, where as Doomsday lived. That alone speaks volumes of his durability. If you think he died, then Doomsday is apparently able to get up pretty quickly.

- You didn't read EVERYTHING I said, did you? He didn't have to die against waverider, and he can still evolve against BFR by developing the ability to teleport.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Got any proof that it's an Avatar? Said Avatar was able to incinerate cyborg Superman with an omega blast, where as Doomsday lived. That alone speaks volumes of his durability. If you think he died, then Doomsday is apparently able to get up pretty quickly.

ds fans not me claim its an avatar.dd got floored by the omega BEAMS not effect and he didnt die from the blast.

You didn't read EVERYTHING I said, did you? He didn't have to die against waverider, and he can still evolve against BFR by developing the ability to teleport.

if he could evolve on the fly why didnt he evolve/teleport when he was bfr'd to entropy

i see you totally avoided the matter manip part?so matter manipulation ftw then

I honestly give this to thanos 9/10, him and doomsday is on two different levels. I dont think that bfring would be thanos only option, he possess enough power to elminate him 9 other ways.

I agree, doomsday is powerful but him and thanos isnt on the same latter.

By the way, its not good to use darkseid as someone to boost another character up. Darkseid has been having bad showing for how long?

Originally posted by skyfather
ds fans not me claim its an avatar.dd got floored by the omega BEAMS not effect and he didnt die from the blast.

waveriders energy manip is nowhere near on thanos lvl,and proof dd can evolve to bfr with teleporting.

if he could evolve on the fly why didnt he evolve/teleport when he was bfr'd to entropy

i see you totally avoided the matter manip part?so matter manipulation ftw then

- Omega beams were still capable of incinerating Cyborg Superman, so like I said, it's still impressive. Superman mentioned how he could feel the beams up close.

- No where near thanos level? Got any proof to back that claim up.

- You don't really understand what entropy is, do you? Doomsday was constantly being pulled apart and killed. There is no way to escape it, there is no way to survive it.

- Totally avoided it? I'm still waiting for the scans, son. You claimed you would bring scans of Thanos using it offensively, and waiting I am.

Either Thanos BFRs Doomsday or Thanos gets his ass handed to him. Thanos can't recreate entropy.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
[B]- Omega beams were still capable of incinerating Cyborg Superman, so like I said, it's still impressive. Superman mentioned how he could feel the beams up close.

No where near thanos level? Got any proof to back that claim up.

You don't really understand what entropy is, do you? Doomsday was constantly being pulled apart and killed. There is no way to escape it, there is no way to survive it.

Totally avoided it? I'm still waiting for the scans, son. You claimed you would bring scans of Thanos using it offensively, and waiting I am.

Brainiac saved DD because he was able to capture Doomsday the moment before he was exposed to entropy.

Supes has a explanation on why DS'S beans don't work on him, Thanos on the other hand has gotten turned to stone inspite of having completel molecur control.....

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Supes has a explanation on why DS'S beans don't work on him, Thanos on the other hand has gotten turned to stone inspite of having completel molecur control.....

Oh I do, and it still shoudln't have happened considering this supposed level of power Thanos sits on.

Originally posted by skyfather
it encased henshaw not killed

knocking galactus through his own ship and on his ass for one,show how powerfull his blast are,do you have any proof of waveriders power??

funny irrc supes has survived it,also how come brainiac managed to save dd IF THERE IS NO WAY TO SURVIVE IT

you seen/read the scans/comics before,hell you have argued about the same scans in other threads,basically its your way of avioding the situation when you know your wrong

- No, it blasted him to bits, twice. (HP 1)

- Physically harming Galactus doesn't mean anything, do you understand this? Invisible woman blasted a hole straight through his chest, but it doesn't matter. Physical harm does nothing to Galactus.

- Scans of Superman surviving it. Doomsday wasn't rescued by Brainiac who travelled into entropy, it happened in a different manner.

- You said you would provide the scans or AT LEAST issue numbers. Now you're claiming that I've seen them and refuse to accept them. Either bring scans /issue numbers or DO NOT MAKE THE CLAIMS.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Oh I do, and it still shoudln't have happened considering this supposed level of power Thanos sits on.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
No, it blasted him to bits, twice. (HP 1)

Physically harming Galactus doesn't mean anything, do you understand this? Invisible woman blasted a hole straight through his chest, but it doesn't matter. Physical harm does nothing to Galactus.

Scans of Superman surviving it. Doomsday wasn't rescued by Brainiac who travelled into entropy, it happened in a different manner.

You said you would provide the scans or AT LEAST issue numbers. Now you're claiming that I've seen them and refuse to accept them. Either bring scans /issue numbers or DO NOT MAKE THE CLAIMS.

captain marvel#26
thanos#8
warlock and the infinity watch#10

Originally posted by skyfather
re-read it he encased him,so he could use him when his own needs suited

that instance was just to demonstrate has powerful his blasts are,or even a gamma blast.
the difference dd is not galactus,so you think dd durability>>>galactus,which i find rich after reading your sig

you argued the for supes/entropy case in the thanos v supes thread,dd was still in the vicinity of entropy,and seeing as theres no escaping it...

captain marvel#26
thanos#8
warlock and the infinity watch#10

- Yes, but Darkseid was able to destroy his body completely. That's what I was aiming for, avatar or not it could still blast Cyborg Superman apart.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/HaCsAHunter-Prey-02-45.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/HaCsAHunter-Prey-03-02.jpg

- Don't try to put words in my mouth, or I'll have a mod in here instantly. If you read my post you would've seen how I mentioned that Invisible Woman did even more and that it didn't matter. Galactus is above physical damage, so no matter how much you blast or cut him, it doesn't matter. How else would you explain how he appears differently to each race? BRB perceives him differently than Thor.

- Doomsday was picked up before he went into entropy. Time technology.

What I got from said issues were the following;

- Thanos heals an alien from some cut wounds.
- Thanos turns a Skrull into stone
- Thanos turns the spirit of his clone into a butterfly and eats it.

- He'll heal Doomsday? We've never seen Thanos heal himself, so that point is moot.
- Doomsday can apparently alter his own energy. Turning him into stone doesn't seem like something that would work, now does it?
- Once again, such a technique is unlikely to work against Doomsday when he can adapt on the fly. Thanos also used it when the clone was unconscious/near death. If he could've used it in battle he probably would have.

So far we haven't seen him use matter manipulation to offensively affect someone on Doomsday's level. He can control Skrulls, who change but do not adapt. It's not reasonable to assume that he would be able to affect someone on Doomsday level or someone who is as resistant as he is.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
- Couldn't care less what you think about DS' durability in relation to Thanos. I compared it to the comment regarding Surfer's durability and how Doomsday dropped Darkseid faster than Thanos dropped Surfer.

- Even during their first encounter the fight raged on for days. In the second fight he was not simply resistant, but could counter the radiant's energy and kill him. Doomsday will defeat Thanos by developing ON THE FLY. Just like he did against waverider's attack.

- Scans of Thanos using matter manipulation offensively. All I've seen are energy blasts and shields.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
- Got any proof that it's an Avatar? Said Avatar was able to incinerate cyborg Superman with an omega blast, where as Doomsday lived. That alone speaks volumes of his durability. If you think he died, then Doomsday is apparently able to get up pretty quickly.

- You didn't read EVERYTHING I said, did you? He didn't have to die against waverider, and he can still evolve against BFR by developing the ability to teleport.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Couple of things:

1.Prof Hulk and Thing as opposed to when supes took on Lobo and some other class 100 dude who's eluding me at the momment.

2. Supes taking on a daximite who is biologically superior to kryptonians.

3. Oneshotting Despero

By sheer feats alone Supes>Thanos and DS is>Supes....doesnt really speak to me as a low showing that DS considers Supes his physical equal considering what DS has been capable of in the past.

2.And?

3.Despero has all kinds of showings good and bad. Seems like a bad showing for despero. i can bring up henshaw owning supes in three hits.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Supes has a explanation on why DS'S beans don't work on him, Thanos on the other hand has gotten turned to stone inspite of having completel molecur control.....

Uhm can I speak of dos superman and use that for debates?