Originally posted by ZeitgeistIt was King Thor. And it happened in the storyline called, 'The Reigning.' King Thor then went back in time and prevented himself from ever usurping power over the Earth. Thus the history of 'The Reigning' became an alternate universe/timeline. Only Thor remembered the events.
I believe he's referring to Rune King Thor, as alt. universes don't count.
Same thing happened in 'Absolute Power.' Superman and Batman, with Darkseid's assistance went back in time and prevented the renegade Legion members from ever changing history. Thus the history of 'Absolute Power' became an alternate universe/timeline. Only Superman, Batman and Darkseid remembered the events.
Same schtick and plot device. No double standard please, both are canon or both are non-canon. If canon, Cap's shield is most definitely over Wonder Woman's bracelets. If not canon, it's arguable either way which one is more durable. But since any logical person would agree that the Infinity Gauntlet and Classic Beyonder/Molecule Man's power is much greater then the entire pantheon of Skyfathers, I still think it's safe to assume Cap's shield > Wonder Woman's bracelets.
Originally posted by CaptainStoicI believe you are referring to this scan.
Either the bracelets are maleable, or they were deformed when Superman broke her wrist. You can clearly see the deformation of the bracelet in question, as Diana makes a mock cast out of the bracelet, before binding it with her lasso.
Superman did no damage to it. But like you said, it does seem to change shape (becoming wider) as Diana pushes it up to encase her broken wrist. Either Diana can change its shape at will or it was poor writing. but there was no damage.
I think the question CaptainStoic is saying is
If the bracelets are maleable through Wonder Woman using her own strength to reshape the bracelets (which would imply that superman through his own strength can shape the bracelets and therefore break her wrists), then the artwork would have no need to actually draw any damage to bracelets if they are simply being re-shaped by Superman's grip.
Originally posted by Evangel94
I think the question CaptainStoic is saying isIf the bracelets are maleable through Wonder Woman using her own strength to reshape the bracelets (which would imply that superman through his own strength can shape the bracelets and therefore break her wrists), then the artwork would have no need to actually draw any damage to bracelets if they are simply being re-shaped by Superman's grip.
However, that is not a low showing and no proof of them being weaker. Plus, the artwork is ass, so it could just be shitty artists.
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
And yet it is seen in a comic that his hammer rumpled the shield.
The thing is metal can rumple another metal of more durability. For example, human bone can dent thin solid steel. Force=Pressure/Area so since the hammer had less area than the shield
and more thickness than the thin shield then with enough power the hammer can indeed dent the shield (all is required is that the Uru is somewhere in the vicinity of the shield and not necessarily tougher). Now reverse it and let the hammer be made out of the shield and the shield made of Uru. Hell, Thor has the power to nearly decimate his own Uru hammer with his godly energies. Thor would have done more than just dent the Uru shield (possibly either warp the sh!t out of it or go straight thru it). He did so when he decapitated Destroyer (which was Uru on Uru).
the soles of Batman's boots. they harness and transmit the awesome force of the BatKick. nothing in comics is close to being as durable.
oh and juggernaut's skin isn't durable at all, the charm protecting him is pretty durable, but still... nothing significant.
I'd say Vibranium and Adamantium are about it. everything else I've seen break/crack eventually. Adamantium got retconned once Hulk broke it.
Originally posted by janus77
the soles of Batman's boots. they harness and transmit the awesome force of the BatKick. nothing in comics is close to being as durable.oh and juggernaut's skin isn't durable at all, the charm protecting him is pretty durable, but still... nothing significant.
I'd say Vibranium and Adamantium are about it. everything else I've seen break/crack eventually. Adamantium got retconned once Hulk broke it.
The mystical metals are the hardest metals because they don't abide by the laws of physics.
yeah but, this is comic book physics, where everything is uber unless/until it's not.
in Future Imperfect, Maestro has machines called Dogs of War that "crush adamantium in 3 seconds", this is explicitly stated in the narrative as the Hulk is placed in the jaws of one and survives...
also, magic does not trump 'physics' in Marvel as the true powers in Marvel are characters like The Beyonder and MoleculeMan both of whom are pretty much matter/reality manipulators. they each would pawn all the magical characters in Marvel pretty easily I think.
it's just a forums myth that magic > "science" in comics. they're flexible, whichever 'reasoning' seems the more entertaining and interesting, that's the one comic writers will attempt to elaborate upon, imo.
Also Superman didn't bend WW's bracelets. If you look carefully at the part where he actually breaks her wrists his hand is above the bracelets directly on her wrists (see below). Afterwards, she pulls the bracelet up to cover her broken wrist (like a splint).
So since the bracelets withstood the force of an entire pantheon, since Uru has been destroyed by other Uru, a Skyfather, and Thor's own energies, and since CA's shield and true adamantium was at least dented before then the ranking is probably
1. WW's bracelets
2. CA's Shield
3. True Adamantium
4. Uru
5. Vibranium
Now I don't have a clue where Jugg's skin should go as I never seen his skin broken by physical force (only by magic or mystical energies). His skin is malleable though, as Thor compressed his jaw with a punch.