Originally posted by Evangel94
This battle was posted on 12:41 PM Central Standard Time. No votes until 12:41 AM Central Standard Time. The 12 hour debate limit is not up. There is still roughly 1 hour and 30 minutes left. If you wish to vote for King Kandy after the debate period is up, then you are free to do so.
Problem. Most people work tomorrow and won't be able to vote before 12:41 PM. So that was their only time, likely right before bed. I think the match should be extended until maybe 4 CST in order to accommodate those people, because otherwise we'll end up with 4-5 votes max.
Originally posted by Evangel94
This battle was posted on 12:41 PM Central Standard Time. No votes until 12:41 AM Central Standard Time. The 12 hour debate limit is not up. There is still roughly 1 hour and 30 minutes left. If you wish to vote for King Kandy after the debate period is up, then you are free to do so.
Note to Kandy: A scan of Strange riding a dragonfly probably isn't the best way to start a match of Skyfather-level amalgams.
😛
That said, voting for Kandy. Less to feel iffy about, and Stacks grasping at straws with "sensing" instead of spying kinda turned me off. I didn't see Evangel make an official ruling about the Nabu thing, but as I see it, the ban is on "outside help." Nabu is a separate person from Hector, and if Nabu had been drafted it wouldn't have been at 6 pts. Stacks tried to say he's a part of Hector, which is false. He's a part of Dr. Fate, but Stacks drafted "Dr. Fate (Hector Hall)." It would be like drafting Adam Warlock and having access to all of his different incarnations. Or Cpt. Mar-vell and getting anyone to ever share the title.
If Stacks had stayed away from such conjectures, he would've had a great shot at winning imo. There's a lot to like in both of these amalgams.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
but as I see it, the ban is on "outside help." Nabu is a separate person from Hector, and if Nabu had been drafted it wouldn't have been at 6 pts. Stacks tried to say he's a part of Hector, which is false.
Untrue, Nabu is a part of Hector's equipment.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg68/Brobinson06/Nabustillgotit.jpg
"The Helmet of Nabu whispers to its new wearer.....and the man behind the helmet does simply what is told"
"The Helmet is informing me of the spell"
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg68/Brobinson06/Nabuisit.jpg
"The helmet has told me of Black Adam"
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg68/Brobinson06/StillinHelmet.jpg
"Maybe he's just gone further into the Helmet.....He's made the place his own"
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg68/Brobinson06/WereInsidetheHelm.jpg
"We're inside the Helm"
Hay look, family reunion
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg68/Brobinson06/Familyreunion.jpg
A more accurate analogy would be drafting Insane Genis and talking to Rick Jones about stuff, which I'm sure nobody would have had a problem with or even better, drafting Venom (Eddie Brock) and getting the sentient symbiote
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Note to Kandy: A scan of Strange riding a dragonfly probably isn't the best way to start a match of Skyfather-level amalgams.😛
That said, voting for Kandy. Less to feel iffy about, and Stacks grasping at straws with "sensing" instead of spying kinda turned me off. I didn't see Evangel make an official ruling about the Nabu thing, but as I see it, the ban is on "outside help." Nabu is a separate person from Hector, and if Nabu had been drafted it wouldn't have been at 6 pts. Stacks tried to say he's a part of Hector, which is false. He's a part of Dr. Fate, but Stacks drafted "Dr. Fate (Hector Hall)." It would be like drafting Adam Warlock and having access to all of his different incarnations. Or Cpt. Mar-vell and getting anyone to ever share the title.
If Stacks had stayed away from such conjectures, he would've had a great shot at winning imo. There's a lot to like in both of these amalgams.
Pretty much the reason for me voting for Kandy as well, oh, and Papa's ridiculous attempt to state that physical and mental stamina are the same thing.
King Kandy was much more plausible with his strategy...
nobody was "more plausible", both write ups were strange as hell.
I sort of hope that smurph doesn't get in trouble for the nabu thing cause it's sort of late now for that, we had a lot of time and dc know it alls for that to slip by.
back to re-reading this convoluted mess.........uugggg!
for the next tournament, no mages or sorcerers cause they are too hard to judge and write for.
Joey, don't play with semantics. In the post above where you responded to me it's "The Helmet of Nabu" which is a far cry from "Nabu." But multiple times in your posts you specifically stated that Hector was "gone" and Nabu had taken his place. If it was only the helmet, I wouldn't have had a problem with it, but you actually replaced the people in your amalgam.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Joey, don't play with semantics. In the post above where you responded to me it's "The Helmet of Nabu" which is a far cry from "Nabu." But multiple times in your posts you specifically stated that Hector was "gone" and Nabu had taken his place. If it was only the helmet, I wouldn't have had a problem with it, but you actually replaced the people in your amalgam.
That's because it is Nabu, Jesus.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg68/Brobinson06/Ohlooknabu.jpg
"My helmet, the voice of Nabu is silenced"
Only person playing semantics is yourself, I have no problem being voted against, I do have a problem with you disregarding legal manuevers because you don't like them.
Hell look at the quote taken directly from the wiki article which was in clear view for any contestants who had a problem with Fate
"Hall had operated as Doctor Fate from Salem since then, with Nabu - again inhabiting the helm, but no longer controlling Fate - advising him. The Nelsons' souls still resided within the amulet, and they were occasionally able to contact the outside world (including Kent once having encountered the 1990s Starman). Hall's identity is known to a clever few who have figured it out, and in his secret identity, he socialized with some of the inhabitants of Salem, being on the whole more gregarious than his predecessors"
"Nabu had been verbally abusing Hector ever since the latter had taken on the mantle"
Oh my gosh it's Nabu talking to Hector for one last scan
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg68/Brobinson06/OmygoshNabu.jpg
It has nothing to do with me "liking them" or not, and I'm insulted at the implication. I, like others, made an objective assessment about the match, and felt that you lost. Don't make it personal, because it isn't.
And just as a word of advice, maybe you're right even despite the votes so far. But statements like "Nabu replaces the completely GONE Hector" don't help your cause, nor does trying to use feats from non-Hector Fate. It's stuff like that which has you down in the voting, not helmet's whispering to Hector.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
It has nothing to do with me "liking them" or not, and I'm insulted at the implication. I, like others, made an objective assessment about the match, and felt that you lost. Don't make it personal, because it isn't.
Then maybe you should recant your stance?
"Nabu replaces the completely GONE Hector" don't help your cause
Why? Hector is gone because he's at a level of pissed where he cannot control himself.
, nor does trying to use feats from non-Hector Fate.
Which are spells Nabu has access to.
It's stuff like that which has you down in the voting, not helmet's whispering to Hector.
No, it's pretty much Nabu talking to Hector.
Your argument in a nutshell is Nabu doesn't replace Hector because I don't like it.
I'm able to use Hector feats that stem from Nabu being in his helmet telling him how to incant such and such, but I can't use Nabu, somehow.
I don't care about being voted against or losing, I do care that your reasoning is unfound and has zero backing and selective reasoning applied to it.
